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persephone325

Quote from: Vergil Tanner on April 06, 2018, 01:04:20 AM
I don't think you can do that, can you? You need to wait a while and then spend 24 hours to change companions, don't you?

I'm not talking about changing companions. I just meant statting out a few different ones, and then picking one that fits best for her.
This doesn't have to end in a fight, Buck.
It always ends in a fight.
You pulled me from the river. Why?
I don't know.
"Don't dwell on those who hold you down. Instead, cherish those who helped you up."

Zaer Darkwail

Quote from: TheScarletBlade on April 05, 2018, 09:13:14 PM

[/b]Zaer Darkwail: Chad Rogarvia (Human male warlord/vanguard commander, LE) (Being Fixed?)

Zaer: See above posts?

Oh shoot! It's sadly true Path of War is done by Dreamscarred Press (and is accepted by Paizo but is not strictly Paizo product). I can rework him but only class which fits theme I have in mind is Antipaladin with Tyrant&Dread Vanguard archtypes. But it will be major overhaul on char as it changes skills he got access to (skill rank amount), feats and even stat distribution. So no chance get approval for third party material case by case basis :(.

Chulanowa

I am seeing a frankly shocking lack of elf. While I would rather play a kobold or something - me being the weirdo like that - I think it's been like... years since I had myself an elf to play with.

Just gotta decide on what class I want her to be!

(Alternately, halfling gunslinger. Ugh I always have too many ideas)

Zaer Darkwail

There's one elf wizard already but any elfs will do so long their not *gasp* drow!

Chulanowa

Quote from: Zaer Darkwail on April 06, 2018, 04:51:25 AM
There's one elf wizard already but any elfs will do so long their not *gasp* drow!

I've had a hankerin' for dark elf of late, but not in a pathfinder game... Especially since the GM has kebabed that one already  ;D

Vergil Tanner

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Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by that of touch, because everyone can see but few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are; and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. Therefore it is unnecessary to have all the qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

Dubbed the "Oath of Drake,"
A noble philosophy; I adhere...for now.

Zaer Darkwail

Well, drow are banned (and agree on hotness of them), but you still can pull off a dark skinned elf look. Or sinister elf look, just do not call them racially drow :).

Roleplay Frog

I'm flexible. I personally lean slightly towards mixed groups, and still want to recommend partying people a bit oriented by posting speed as well.

QuoteDeva: Rework stats? Not sure but for some reason they still showed up as negative in the builder unless I missed something, it was -3? Just double check them or point out what I missed?

She's human, +2 to int, did you factor that in? I come up as flat 20.


Vergil Tanner

What would be an interesting class for a Drow? Rogue is an obvious one, but boring. Mysterious Stranger Gunslinger? Brood master or Master Summoner? Maybe a Dex Inquisitor would be interesting...
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Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by that of touch, because everyone can see but few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are; and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. Therefore it is unnecessary to have all the qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

Dubbed the "Oath of Drake,"
A noble philosophy; I adhere...for now.

LizzieV

Quote from: Chulanowa on April 06, 2018, 04:49:47 AM
I am seeing a frankly shocking lack of elf. While I would rather play a kobold or something - me being the weirdo like that - I think it's been like... years since I had myself an elf to play with.

Just gotta decide on what class I want her to be!

(Alternately, halfling gunslinger. Ugh I always have too many ideas)

Kobold? You could do a pure dex fighter or swashbuckler although those can be a bit rough on your damage output as a small creature until you can either get an agile weapon or grab the 'slashing grace' feat to do dex to damage. Another odd option is Warpriest since you can use sacred weapon to raise your damage dice higher than they would be otherwise. The bog standard kobold options are still things like rogue or bard which are useful but if you're trying to do something different then it might not be your cup of tea.

If you want to do something weird you could play a Kineticist Kobold who claims their elemental blast is a breath weapon and they are just a tiny dragon. The con penalty kind of sucks since that's the Kineticist main stat but you could probably manage. An Investigator Kobold with a top-hat and monocle with a pipe who insists on solving crimes is also neat sounding although investigator is less combat effective and more skill-monkey hilarity. Shaman might also be interesting.

Quote from: Vergil Tanner on April 06, 2018, 07:57:52 AM
What would be an interesting class for a Drow? Rogue is an obvious one, but boring. Mysterious Stranger Gunslinger? Brood master or Master Summoner? Maybe a Dex Inquisitor would be interesting...

A Drow Vigilante. "I AM THE NIGHT!" You could wear a spidersilk cape and be SpiderBatMan.
O/O

Roleplay Frog

QuoteWhat would be an interesting class for a Drow? Rogue is an obvious one, but boring. Mysterious Stranger Gunslinger? Brood master or Master Summoner? Maybe a Dex Inquisitor would be interesting...

Classes do not make a character interesting, concepts do. Classes just help and inspire. *nodnod* A fun concept can work with a variety of classes.



Vergil Tanner

LOL. Vigilante would be interesting, certainly. It just feels a bit too roguey and...well, I guess I'm trying to think of something unique.


And yeah, I get that. I always design a character around a concept, not optimisation.  But concepts don't mean anything if I dislike playing the class itself, no?
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Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by that of touch, because everyone can see but few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are; and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. Therefore it is unnecessary to have all the qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

Dubbed the "Oath of Drake,"
A noble philosophy; I adhere...for now.

Zaer Darkwail

Hmmmm, after checking bit; Warpriest could work as well (either champion of the faith or divine commander). Or go straight up fighter.

Roleplay Frog

Well, I could tell you a bunch of unique ideas, but you kinda have to come up with those yourself, right? Seeing the DM's prohibition, how about a surface elf trying to emulate the drow, as a random example.

The mechanics should be made to fit your concept, not otherwise, and luckily in pathfinder you can do whatever. Look at me. I'm a frog!

LizzieV

Well, you could always pick something that doesn't use dex or charisma and ideally uses con as a base if you want to be unique for a drow. Most people don't actively penalize themselves so that provides some uniqueness.

Concept-wise just pick a class you like and then build a concept around it? You could make a character around using the performance combat feats who used to be a gladiator in a drow slave arena using fighter. It's very intimidate focused and doesn't work on anything immune to fear or the like but it's an option. You could try to impress a crowd of people that isn't there on habit.
O/O

Vergil Tanner

Oh, I already have my character whipped up all the way back on page 2. I'm no secret to creating odd concepts and finding ways to make them work; Injave a folder filled with a good two dozen weird and wonderful concepts! It was more a thought experiment more than anything else, and I was wondering if anybody had any strange or unique ideas :P
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Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by that of touch, because everyone can see but few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are; and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. Therefore it is unnecessary to have all the qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

Dubbed the "Oath of Drake,"
A noble philosophy; I adhere...for now.

Saric

Quote from: Vergil Tanner on April 06, 2018, 07:57:52 AM
What would be an interesting class for a Drow? Rogue is an obvious one, but boring. Mysterious Stranger Gunslinger? Brood master or Master Summoner? Maybe a Dex Inquisitor would be interesting...

Drow Cavalier jousting from atop a giant spider in full plate. :P
"I believe in dragons, good men, and other fantasy creatures." - Slovotsky's Law #42

“Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.”― Neil Gaiman, Coraline

“The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.” - Terry Pratchett (Rest in Peace, Master Storyteller)

Vergil Tanner

That sounds hilarious and oddly almost feasible. :P Especially if you somehow get her some spellcasting ability and take the "Spider Summoner" Feat that lets her Summon an Ogre Spider with her Summon Monster...which is terrifying in and of its own right xD

Also: Back at my computer! :P

The three concepts in my head were:

1) Drow Inquisitor. Dex build, perhaps? Possibly an Infiltrator, though the idea of a Monster Tactician Drow Inquisitor who can summon Monsters who benefit from her Teamwork feats? That is greatly attractive to me, especially if she augments them with Augment Summoning, Superior Summoning and Spider Summoning...
Or maybe a "Sacred Huntsmaster" who gets the Animal Companion class feature, and the Animal Companion gains the benefit of her Teamwork Feats. That could be fun. The only problem would be the Inquisitors focus on Wis rather than Cha...

2) Drow Sniper Rogue, perhaps, using Blags to get Feint and sneak attack at range?

3) Drow Gunslinger, but with Mysterious Stranger so she's using Cha instead of Wis. That could be a fun concept.

Those are what my tired brain can come up with right now anyway :P

Oh, I'm back at the keyboard :P
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Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by that of touch, because everyone can see but few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are; and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. Therefore it is unnecessary to have all the qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

Dubbed the "Oath of Drake,"
A noble philosophy; I adhere...for now.

Petrus02


Roleplay Frog

Drow slime rancher, uses sustenance items/magic and acid immunity to hitch a ride inside of various D&d Goo-type monsters.
Bonus points if you heal the goo from inside. Don't attack, let go do the work, only ready action to heal. Bonus points if you use different goo for accid-resistant foes.

Vergil Tanner

Quote from: Petrus02 on April 06, 2018, 11:14:11 AM
you DO know that the Gm said he dislikes drow, yes?

Yes, I do. :P As I said above, I already pitched my character back on page 2. This is idle postulation for future concepts while we wait, and to give the thread some bumping love. :P


Hmmm....Drow Goophile. Offers plenty of sexytime possibilities, too.

*wanders off to oggle some Dark Elf Tentacle Porn*
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Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by that of touch, because everyone can see but few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are; and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. Therefore it is unnecessary to have all the qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

Dubbed the "Oath of Drake,"
A noble philosophy; I adhere...for now.

Vergil Tanner

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God, look at her. I either need to play her, or play with her, ifyaknowwhatImean. >.> :P
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Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by that of touch, because everyone can see but few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are; and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. Therefore it is unnecessary to have all the qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

Dubbed the "Oath of Drake,"
A noble philosophy; I adhere...for now.

Diabolus Lupus

I'm not normally a fan of Sylvannas, but even I think that's a rather hot picture of her.

Vergil Tanner

I know, right?! All the other ones look a bit...off. Not this one though. >.>
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Men in general judge more by the sense of sight than by that of touch, because everyone can see but few can test by feeling. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few know what you really are; and those few do not dare take a stand against the general opinion. Therefore it is unnecessary to have all the qualities I have enumerated, but it is very necessary to appear to have them. And I shall dare to say this also, that to have them and always observe them is injurious, and that to appear to have them is useful; to appear merciful, faithful, humane, religious, upright, and be so, but with a mind so framed that should you require not to be so, you may be able and know how to change to the opposite.

Dubbed the "Oath of Drake,"
A noble philosophy; I adhere...for now.

Chulanowa

Quote from: Vergil Tanner on April 06, 2018, 11:59:02 AM
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God, look at her. I either need to play her, or play with her, ifyaknowwhatImean. >.> :P

yeah, i can't shake the "undead' thing yanno? "I like my women like I like my coffee; room temperature"