Trump

[Haibane]

I am not in the USA and I find it embarrassing, so its actually a global embarrassment.

[gaggedLouise]

Trump's in-person appearances during this Thanksgiving (pardoning the turkey, etc) are going to be the most closely watched such events any president has done for the holiday in living memory. 
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[Beguile's Mistress]

Jimmy Fallon did a Twitter hashtag for New Thanksgiving Traditions.  His own was:  "The Thanksgiving turkey pardons Trump!"

[Haibane]

Not sure anything could pardon Trump right now, not even a Thanksgiving cockroach.

[gaggedLouise]

This just in: are the Trump legal team getting ready to ditch their star Sidney Powell, the gung-ho lawyer who was going to turn the game around for them? Have they realized that her magnificent narrative of a worldwide DeepState /Commie conspiracy to wreck US elections and get rid of Trump didn't hold water, and that her loud, woolly rethoric risked making them look like fools in court all over again?

https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1330638034619035655

[Deamonbane]

Honestly, it's not just that they have no evidence to back up their cases, it's the fact that these cases are just being so poorly put together. Rudy is out there openly antagonizing judges in his interviews, openly contradicting himself (for instance, in his first court appearance, he said that they are not arguing that there was voter fraud) and presenting patchwork, incomplete paperwork that one of the judges compared to Frankenstein's monster, and I doubt that he was saying that they are literary classics.

It's suddenly clear why self-respecting lawyers and legal firms are trying to put as much distance between themselves and these cases as possible. I honestly don't see any way that any of the lawyers involved find themselves work at any respectable firms after this is done. It's just so much incompetence.

[Haibane]

It's just so much incompetence.

Its a complete fucking farce. Confusing Minnesota with Michigan on an affidavit for example. What? What is that? Basic ineptitude. If it wasn't so serious the whole planet would be pointing at them and going "Har har!"

I honestly wonder what they think they are doing. Do they realise they are destroying any remaining credibility the Republican party has?

All that's going to be left after this debacle are the right wing militias and a bunch of conspiracy theorists who believe in pizza restaurant pedo-reptilians or whatever it is they think this week. The whole thing is one huge facepalm.

[TheGlyphstone]

With who, though? The party can't lose credibility with its own voters, or gain any with the Democratic voters. Anyone on between will be more likely to associate these shenanigans with Trump specifically rather than the party, so it costs the GOP leadership nothing to humor his lunacy compared to the consequences if Trump's cult thinks they turned on him.

Its sad, but they can't lose credit they dont have, and where they still have it they cant lose it.

[Sara Nilsson]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/media/tucker-carlson-fox-news-traitor/index.html

Trump supporters are attacking Tucker Carlson for asking about evidence.

Let that sink in.

[TheGlyphstone]

[Haibane]

 

[Haibane]

https://twitter.com/MrMatrix09/status/1330639012181266434

[Regina Minx]

Well. They filed an appeal. Jesus fucking Christ.



Here’s the thing:  https://t.co/aoJpnD61Xf?amp=1

They're appealing the denial of their motion to amend - which is kind of strange because I'm not at all sure they CAN really appeal that without also appealing the dismissal. I mean, if they get the 3rd to ONLY send it back for amendment, they're just going to lose most of the case on standing again - they'll get back the claim about the observers, but they'll lose that on standing, too.

[TheHangedOne]

I'm wondering if this isn't some sort of distraction from something else they're doing in the background. As mentioned, it is so obviously poorly constructed, and yet, so highly watched. I really can't help but feel like this is removing attention from something far worse.

[Regina Minx]

I'm wondering if this isn't some sort of distraction from something else they're doing in the background. As mentioned, it is so obviously poorly constructed, and yet, so highly watched. I really can't help but feel like this is removing attention from something far worse.

Honestly, I really just think Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, and Sidney Powell kind of all suck at this whole lawyering thing.

[Missy]

Maybe Trump should have asked about their grades in college?

Actually you know, he probably hid them where he hid his tax returns.

[Beguile's Mistress]

I just had a thought:  Who will 45 get to represent him after he leaves office when he sues Guilliani et al for malpractice since they failed at stopping the Biden win?

[TheGlyphstone]

You gotta wonder what happened to Guiliani. "America's Mayor" has fallen a hell of a long way from the top of his pedestal...

[gaggedLouise]

I just had a thought:  Who will 45 get to represent him after he leaves office when he sues Guilliani et al for malpractice since they failed at stopping the Biden win?

Good question!

[Oniya]

You gotta wonder what happened to Guiliani. "America's Mayor" has fallen a hell of a long way from the top of his pedestal...

Considering this is the guy that announced his second divorce at a press conference in May of 2000 - before even telling his then-wife - I'd say this is more of a return to baseline.

[Haibane]

Maybe these people are just doing anything... anything at all, so they can draw a salary because they know they'll be in retirement come Jan 20th?

I feel like this is the Republican Party Song right now.

The wheels on the bus go round and round,
Round and round,
Round and round.
The wheels on the bus go round and round,
All. Day. Long.

[CrownedSun]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/21/media/tucker-carlson-fox-news-traitor/index.html

Trump supporters are attacking Tucker Carlson for asking about evidence.

Let that sink in.

Honestly, I think at this point "Trump Supporters" and "QAnon" are pretty much the same thing.

Government OF reddit, and for reddit.

Let THAT sink in.

[CrownedSun]

Excuse me, of 4chan and by 4chan.

Which, by any standard, is worse.

[Regina Minx]

The hits just keep on coming.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c_9iB3nOzl3kp12OLwIh9wVVxLf0GVlO/view

Team Awesome Sauce has re-filed. I want to point out what's at issue in Trump's appeal to the 3rd Circuit isn't the judge's ruling against them on lack of standing and on the merits of their complaint. They are appealing the denial of permission to file a 2nd Amended Complaint. When they were denied the right to file a new complaint, the court said the reason why is that  that allowing amendment would result in "undue delay." When you are filing a "Motion for Expedited Review" with a court of appeal asking for a review of a decision that said that letting you do a thing would create undue delay, is it critical that you do everything humanly possible and more to show that you're not delaying anything.

They waited a full day to file their appeal, and now they're re-filing because they messed stuff up the first time. This is not a good look for them at the moment.

And again, they are only appealing the judge's refusal to let them amend their complaint and not on the substantive and procedural reasons for the dismissal of the lawsuit in the first place. There's a strong argument that by framing the appeal this way Trump is giving up any challenge to the things the trial court ruled, things that render the amended complaint dead on arrival.

To quote Popehat's analogy:

Your 14-year-old daughter says to you "Mom, I want to go to Cancun with Jared Fogle." OF COURSE NOT, you say. "No wait," says your daughter. "Change of plans. Now we're going to Gstaad." NO, you say.

Trump is basically your 14-year-old daughter yelling "DAAAAAAD, MOM WON'T LET ME CHANGE MY MIND ABOUT WHERE I GO WITH JARED FOGLE."

[TheGlyphstone]

Excuse me, of 4chan and by 4chan.

Which, by any standard, is worse.

8chan maybe, it's where all the crazies fled to when the moderation started becoming real. 4chan was always more than /Pol - I still remember the days of /b/'s Project Chanology and the Anonymous war against Scientologists, along with all the glorious gaming nonsense that /tg/ produced.

4chan itself is mostly a shell these days I hear.