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Iniquitous

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 23, 2018, 10:45:28 PM
He has that habit of repeating himself two or three times. It's a rather distinctive mannerism, I wonder how long he's been speaking like that and if it's a deliberate affectation to 'sell' his words via repetition or something else.

It is a tactic to make someone remember something.  When I worked for Verizon we were taught "say your name 3 times, say the customer's name 3 times, say the company name 3 times" while on the phone with them.  Repeating yourself like that makes it stick in the memory of those listening (and in his case those hearing it associate it with being true).

Manipulation. It's what he's good at.
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Iniquitous on November 24, 2018, 07:18:41 AM
It is a tactic to make someone remember something.  When I worked for Verizon we were taught "say your name 3 times, say the customer's name 3 times, say the company name 3 times" while on the phone with them.  Repeating yourself like that makes it stick in the memory of those listening (and in his case those hearing it associate it with being true).

Manipulation. It's what he's good at.

I sed to highlight that to my airmen, that you’d see repeatedly stated things in scam ads and car dealers but they’d dance around details you need to know to make informed decisions.  Used to have one of the scam ads online I’d use as an explanation. My CO got their teeny tiny disclosures form and I’d contrast what they said and what the ‘disclosed’ so hard in the statement

Yvellakitsune

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 23, 2018, 10:45:28 PM
He has that habit of repeating himself two or three times. It's a rather distinctive mannerism, I wonder how long he's been speaking like that and if it's a deliberate affectation to 'sell' his words via repetition or something else.

Nancy Pelosi actually does the same thing too. I’ve seen her realest thing seven times in one speech. Most professional politicians do it no matter the party.  Obama would do it even.  It’s actually worked into their speeches a lot of times.  Professional speakers and advertisers do it too. Trump was a businessman, he used to sell things.  Politicians are just another type of salespeople selling themselves.  They almost all do it if you look.  Especially the experienced ones. 

Tolvo

It is also a characteristic of Metal Gear.

TheGlyphstone

Quote from: Tolvo on November 24, 2018, 10:51:17 AM
It is also a characteristic of Metal Gear.

Our presidency would be so much more awesome with giant robots.

Tolvo



This is a very Wow cool robots type deal. Especially I don't want Donald Trump to have access to any of the tech in Metal Gear, hell I don't want him to access to the real technology we have.

Lustful Bride

He's such an idiot though the Lalilulelo would just throw him into the nearest pit I bet ::)

(I wonder how many will get the reference?)

Tolvo

Perhaps Donald Trump hypnotized himself into being an ignorant hateful moron so that we wouldn't realize he is a secret genius trying to destroy a satellite and free us all from capitalism. Maybe he is our best hope against the Patriots.

Lustful Bride

Quote from: Tolvo on November 24, 2018, 11:34:22 AM
Perhaps Donald Trump hypnotized himself into being an ignorant hateful moron so that we wouldn't realize he is a secret genius trying to destroy a satellite and free us all from capitalism. Maybe he is our best hope against the Patriots.

Or maybe the Patriots are our greatest hope against him! *Dramatic music*

Deamonbane

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gaggedLouise

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 23, 2018, 10:45:28 PM
He has that habit of repeating himself two or three times. It's a rather distinctive mannerism, I wonder how long he's been speaking like that and if it's a deliberate affectation to 'sell' his words via repetition or something else.

"Mueller and the Clintons and the Obama crowd are out on a WITCH HUNT - I said it's a TOTAL WITCH HUNT!! Yeah!! So folks, that's why we gotta lock 'em up!"

:P

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Blythe

Repetition-style rhetoric is a common enough tactic used in advertising & marketing. I imagine that's why Trump's prone to it given his background; he probably talks that way now without even thinking much about why he does any more, as I imagine it's become a fairly ingrained form of speaking for him over the years.
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Twisted Crow

Quote from: Tolvo on November 24, 2018, 10:51:17 AM
It is also a characteristic of Metal Gear.

Quote from: TheGlyphstone on November 24, 2018, 11:12:12 AM
Our presidency would be so much more awesome with giant robots.


... You two are officially my favorite people in PROC.  ;D

Tolvo

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/24/politics/washington-post-asylum-seekers-stay-in-mexico/index.html

So some stuff and I guess Trump is still on about shutting down the border completely which I'm sure won't make a lot of people mad.

gaggedLouise

I'm sure this is old news for some here, but I only realized it the other day: when Trump's mum arrived in the US from Scotland in 1930, she was pretty much in the same position as many of those latino migrants wanting to enter the US from the south over the last few years. She was a dirt-poor economic migrant from a run-down part of Scotland (the Hebrides), with no particular training or work skills, she had no job position waiting for her and and coming into Ellis Island she could not even be sure of being allowed a stay - if she had not been allowed to get in, she would have been an illegal migrant in the eyes of the authorities. And her rural Scots dialect would have sounded quite a bit alien in the US (her first language, by the way, was Gaelic). The only *real* difference between Mary Anne McLeod and any Juana Martinez ninety years later is that Miss McLeod, who would become Trump's mother, fit into an immigration quota for her country of origin. She was not fleeing from any kind of war or political repression, just from grey poverty.

Things have changed in some ways since 1930, sure, both in daily life and in the labour market, but that doesn't change the fact that Donald Trump is treating people as scum who are in the same position as his mother when she arrived to the US, threatening to have troops fire at them, closing the border and smearing them as criminals and terrorists.  >:(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anne_MacLeod_Trump

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Tolvo

Yep but he doesn't care.

https://apnews.com/dce98f28b82645d0a58af5f5ebed3009?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter

I posted about this in the news thread but also remember how Trump said he made deals that was keeping GM jobs in America(Which he didn't they were actually set up without his involvement)? Welp goodbye to that!

Hemingway

I just have to wonder, in this age of lies, absolute, party over everything, nationalism coming back... Who are the patriots?

Ahh, but I'm just inserting myself into the conversation here without knowing what's going on. I mean, in the conversation. Checking the status of the Mueller investigation ("Peter Carr, spokesman for the special counsel, declined to comment") is pretty much the first thing I do every morning. Today was supposed to be an important day, too.


Mechelle

Quote from: gaggedLouise on November 26, 2018, 01:53:03 PM
I'm sure this is old news for some here, but I only realized it the other day: when Trump's mum arrived in the US from Scotland in 1930, she was pretty much in the same position as many of those latino migrants wanting to enter the US from the south over the last few years. She was a dirt-poor economic migrant from a run-down part of Scotland (the Hebrides), with no particular training or work skills, she had no job position waiting for her and and coming into Ellis Island she could not even be sure of being allowed a stay - if she had not been allowed to get in, she would have been an illegal migrant in the eyes of the authorities. And her rural Scots dialect would have sounded quite a bit alien in the US (her first language, by the way, was Gaelic). The only *real* difference between Mary Anne McLeod and any Juana Martinez ninety years later is that Miss McLeod, who would become Trump's mother, fit into an immigration quota for her country of origin. She was not fleeing from any kind of war or political repression, just from grey poverty.

Things have changed in some ways since 1930, sure, both in daily life and in the labour market, but that doesn't change the fact that Donald Trump is treating people as scum who are in the same position as his mother when she arrived to the US, threatening to have troops fire at them, closing the border and smearing them as criminals and terrorists.  >:(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anne_MacLeod_Trump

I also read that Donald's grandfather was technically an illegal emigrant, as opposed to immigrant, as he left Germany before performing his military service which was not supposed to be permitted.

Meanwhile, his grandson has eased into the Brexit debate, saying that Theresa May's withdrawal agreement is good for the European Union and bad for UK/USA trade.


https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-deal-good-for-eu-and-may-hinder-uk-us-trade-donald-trump-says-11564636

Tolvo

https://nypost.com/2018/11/26/trump-on-his-governments-climate-report-i-dont-believe-it/

So Trump has admitted he read the Climate Change report by the US Government and that he just doesn't believe it.

You can hear him say it below.

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1067149619229003780

Tilt

Quote from: gaggedLouise on November 26, 2018, 01:53:03 PM
I'm sure this is old news for some here, but I only realized it the other day: when Trump's mum arrived in the US from Scotland in 1930, she was pretty much in the same position as many of those latino migrants wanting to enter the US from the south over the last few years. She was a dirt-poor economic migrant from a run-down part of Scotland (the Hebrides), with no particular training or work skills, she had no job position waiting for her and and coming into Ellis Island she could not even be sure of being allowed a stay - if she had not been allowed to get in, she would have been an illegal migrant in the eyes of the authorities. And her rural Scots dialect would have sounded quite a bit alien in the US (her first language, by the way, was Gaelic). The only *real* difference between Mary Anne McLeod and any Juana Martinez ninety years later is that Miss McLeod, who would become Trump's mother, fit into an immigration quota for her country of origin. She was not fleeing from any kind of war or political repression, just from grey poverty.

Things have changed in some ways since 1930, sure, both in daily life and in the labour market, but that doesn't change the fact that Donald Trump is treating people as scum who are in the same position as his mother when she arrived to the US, threatening to have troops fire at them, closing the border and smearing them as criminals and terrorists.  >:(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Anne_MacLeod_Trump

Not the first time that Trump's proven himself to be a hypocrite.

Tolvo

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1067155147657306113

So Trump actually said more. Not only did he read a part of the Climate report that he doesn't believe, he also believes that pollution is mostly caused in Asia and mentions China(Alright) and Japan(Wait what) as producing tons of pollution. And claims other countries are "dirty." And states that the USA is the cleanest it has ever been and produces little to no pollution.

I guess Pre-Industrial history just never happened or something.

gaggedLouise

Quote from: Mechelle on November 26, 2018, 02:20:42 PM
I also read that Donald's grandfather was technically an illegal emigrant, as opposed to immigrant, as he left Germany before performing his military service which was not supposed to be permitted.

Meanwhile, his grandson has eased into the Brexit debate, saying that Theresa May's withdrawal agreement is good for the European Union and bad for UK/USA trade.


https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-deal-good-for-eu-and-may-hinder-uk-us-trade-donald-trump-says-11564636

Well, that's one more bit in the Trump jigsaw. :)

By the way, many of the good guys in Casablanca had crossed a few European borders by means of crime, subterfuge and forged/stolen documents (passports that didnt really match them as persons). Borders that were not technically war zones at the time, either (and neither Vichy France nor Spain were carrying on open battles or military campaigns in their own mainland territory in 1941-43) ^_ ^ This kind of stuff is what some political refugees have to do to get anywhere.

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Tolvo

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46352463

So Trump thinks the new Brexit deal favors the EU too heavily and that it means the UK might not be able to trade with the US.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/26/18113368/trump-iphone-10-percent-tariffs-possibility

So Trump expects an at least 10% price increase tariff for iPhones and other products from China and claims that consumers can easily handle that and won't be bothered by it, also it might be as high as 25%.

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