What's in the news?

[Missy]

Good news for Overwatch fans, Tracer (who is also the games cover character) is gay It's really good to see how far we've come even in these dark times we're progressive and uncowed in the face of the nazi presidency.

[Cassandra LeMay]

John Hurt dies of pancreatic cancer

[gaggedLouise]

John Hurt dies of pancreatic cancer

The best Caligula ever! 

[Lustful Bride]

New Court Rulings.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-judge-allows-travelers-who-landed-with-visas-to-stay-in-country/ar-AAmmswj

[Iniquitous]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mystery-death-of-ex-kgb-chief-linked-to-mi6-spys-dossier-on-donald-trump/ar-AAmkp4E

Well aint this curious...

[Lustful Bride]

Seems trumps latest plan is putting more against him.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/christian-leaders-denounce-trump%e2%80%99s-plan-to-favor-christian-immigrants/ar-AAmmDHB?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPCOMMDHP15

[Iniquitous]

Seems trumps latest plan is putting more against him.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/christian-leaders-denounce-trump%e2%80%99s-plan-to-favor-christian-immigrants/ar-AAmmDHB?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=HPCOMMDHP15

This makes me happy to see that there are some who recognize the mistake in that plan.  Hopefully (though I suspect my hope is in vain) Trump will get the picture that it is wrong to cherry pick which refugees you will help based upon their religion.

[Beorning]

The news of Trump's decision is quite hot back here, too. What deeply saddens that, when I'm talking to people, there are those who actually see no wrong with what he did. Seriously, I know at least one person who, when confronted with the idea that it's wrong to cherrypick the refugees based on their religion would say "Why"?

In fact, this person says that Trump should have done much more... From I understand this person's thinking, she thinks Trump should be closing down mosques and making the Quran illegal. :(

[Shekinah]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/38788910

Mo Farah can't go home to his children thx to Trump's ban

[Sara Nilsson]

http://time.com/4139998/dick-cheney-trump-muslims/

oO

Even Dick Cheney has gone on record saying that Trump's ban "goes against everything we stand for and believe in."

[Lustful Bride]

http://time.com/4139998/dick-cheney-trump-muslims/

oO

Even Dick Cheney has gone on record saying that Trump's ban "goes against everything we stand for and believe in."

When old Darth Vader is saying you have gone too far...that says a lot.

[Trigon]

Steve Bannon now has a seat at the National Security Council: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/01/29/512295108/with-national-security-council-shakeup-steve-bannon-gets-a-seat-at-the-table

And so yet another institution is set to lose legitimacy.

[ElvenKitten]

So were just going to forget the six month travel ban Obama put in effect on Iraq? It's not a blanket ban on Muslims, just the places that are deemed a big enough security risk. Oh god I'm defending Trump...

[Sara Nilsson]

So were just going to forget the six month travel ban Obama put in effect on Iraq? It's not a blanket ban on Muslims, just the places that are deemed a big enough security risk. Oh god I'm defending Trump...

Problem is there have been zero attacks from those countries, where as countries like Saudia Arabia, Egypt, United Arab Emirates and Lebanon (the countries where the 9/11 attackers came from) are not on the list. Funny that. especially when you note that Mr Trump holds business interest in those countries according to Washington Post and Bloomberg (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-business-are-not-hit-by-new-travel-restrictions/2017/01/28/dd40535a-e56b-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html?utm_term=.6cc2bc62ac1d http://fortune.com/2017/01/27/donald-trump-muslim-immigration-ban-conflict/)

[Lustful Bride]

Woman charged with attempted murder after picking up a child and throwing it onto the train tracks as the train was pulling in. Thankfully the child was pulled to safety and the train slowed before It could get close enough.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-woman-charged-after-throwing-child-on-train-tracks/ar-AAmnKLl?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=HPCOMMDHP15

The child is safe and the woman is in custody. Oh my god that is...I have chills picturing that happening.

[Beguile's Mistress]

So were just going to forget the six month travel ban Obama put in effect on Iraq? It's not a blanket ban on Muslims, just the places that are deemed a big enough security risk. Oh god I'm defending Trump...

First of all the last administration is over and done.  Secondly using what you don't like in the actions of someone else is never a good defense of someone doing something basically inhumane now.**

Also, a temporary travel ban against the citizens of one country because of that country's threats is much different than targeting people because of their faith or religion and turning away refugees who are looking for asylum.

**EDIT:  It's the same as those who say Bill Clinton was an adulterer so Trump should be excused for his sexual assaults on women and his walking into the dressing rooms at the Miss Teen America pageant while the girls were unclothed.

[Eikichi]

It's not a blanket ban on Muslims

So an immigration ban on countries with a Muslim majority, while allowing immigrants from those same countries who aren't apart of the majority religion access. How is that not a Muslim ban?

[Vekseid]

Because Trump exempted countries where he has business interests.

Alternately, because Trump exempted countries that terrorists in the US actually came from.

[ElvenKitten]

My point is when Obama is drone hell out of Muslims the majority of the left seem fine with it but when Trump's in office worse than Hitler. The right do this as well but I expect better of the side I lean more toward I guess.

[Vekseid]

The left was most certainly not fine with the drone program.

However, the right never backed the left on those concerns. Or when they did, it was only for the purpose of criticism. Never as a matter of policy.

If you're actually confused as to why this blew up, it's because this is something Americans can view and empathize with directly.

[Beguile's Mistress]

My point is when Obama is drone hell out of Muslims the majority of the left seem fine with it but when Trump's in office worse than Hitler. The right do this as well but I expect better of the side I lean more toward I guess.

Obama didn't do what Trump is doing.  Don't you think people would have been demonstrating if he was keeping innocent people from entering the country when they were trying to escape death and imprisonment and persecution?

The six-month ban on Iranians entering the US was for a totally different reason and not a sop to a group of people who believe the terrorists are coming from the countries Trump has put on the banned list.  The terrorists are coming from countries where Trump and his companies have business interests that are putting money into his bank accounts.  Far from divesting himself of all his businesses and turning them over to his sons he is still in control and still calls the shots.  He isn't going to hurt his bottom line.

You really need to do some research and look at the reasons why the six-month temporary ban was put into effect.  You also need to be careful where you get your information from. 

[Cassandra LeMay]

So were just going to forget the six month travel ban Obama put in effect on Iraq? It's not a blanket ban on Muslims, just the places that are deemed a big enough security risk. Oh god I'm defending Trump...

Technically speaking you may be right. It may not be a ban on Muslims. But - this executive order isn't just about a temporary ban for people of certain nationalities. It also suspends the entrance of all refugees for 120 days and stupulates that - once the 120 days are over - preference should be given to people from religious minorities in their conutry of origin. See, for example, http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/316586-trump-persecuted-christian-refugees-are-priority)

So it is a prioritization of Christians. Trump said so himself. And that's as illegal as an outright ban of Muslims would be.

[Silk]

So were just going to forget the six month travel ban Obama put in effect on Iraq? It's not a blanket ban on Muslims, just the places that are deemed a big enough security risk. Oh god I'm defending Trump...

It sucks doesn't it, Even the people who defend Trump don't "Want" to defend Trump, but feel they have to for a variety of reasons, It's not even a matter of devils advocate most of the time anymore.

[Formless]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/30/quebec-mosque-shooting-canada-deaths

[Lustful Bride]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/30/quebec-mosque-shooting-canada-deaths

It just never seems to end. If its not one maniac its another. My heart and prayers go out to the victims and their families :(