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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2012, 05:33:52 PM »
If I may ask, what is this Lazarus and where do I get it?

It sounds like it comes in handy for saving/caching what one types in forms in case the server lags or croaks.  Normally if you forward or back up or 'x' out of a page, all that 'temporary' content goes poof.

It is indeed an add on/app that cache's what you write, so if, say you accidentally hit the back button, or lose a post you've written out, you can get it all back. 

You can get it in the App Store for Chrome or the Add Ons for Firefox. Just search for Lazarus.

Saff is right, if you do a basic google search for "Lazarus" you'll find it.

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2012, 05:44:01 PM »
Any news so far why Elli is slow? I'm experiencing slowness at the moment. Just watched a page take about a minute to load.

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2012, 05:54:51 PM »
I don't think it's my connection. I pinged E and Rpol and they both were around 40 ms (RPOL was doing slightly better but not enough to have the lag be caused by connectivity)


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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2012, 05:55:14 PM »
Any news so far why Elli is slow? I'm experiencing slowness at the moment. Just watched a page take about a minute to load.
Just a minute? Try 5, and then it randomly made my text very very small :P  It's entertaining though a bit annoying. Time for bed me thinks ;)

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2012, 06:01:10 PM »
Veks appears to be away from his computer at the moment.

This two-five minute wait time is getting a bit frustrating for sure. :'(

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2012, 06:04:24 PM »
Things seem to be clearing up, here. *smiles* Things definitely are loading faster for me.
Good thing I'm using 'docs are the moment. Can't toss Lazarus on a 'top that isn't my own, would be a tad rude.. *grins*
Would be lovely to see what caused this, but not the end of the world if I don't get to learn what happened (or might still be happening).

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2012, 06:06:04 PM »
It seems to be going in fits and starts. Still, not too much of a problem for me - I just keep my Twitter feed going on another tab, and peruse that when things get slow.

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2012, 06:11:50 PM »
It seems to be going in fits and starts. Still, not too much of a problem for me - I just keep my Twitter feed going on another tab, and peruse that when things get slow.

Somewhere..there is a cat jump on a hanging cable..

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2012, 06:14:23 PM »
Somewhere..there is a cat jump on a hanging cable..

Nah, sounds like Veks forgot to feed the hamster again...

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2012, 06:14:36 PM »
Somewhere..there is a cat jump on a hanging cable..
*coffeesplurtgigglesnort*

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2012, 06:25:02 PM »
*coffeesplurtgigglesnort*

that was what I was doing (I had made some apple cider on my Kruieg at the time)

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #61 on: January 22, 2012, 07:40:50 PM »
slow is better than crashing  :o

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #62 on: January 22, 2012, 07:42:03 PM »
Didn't seem like a crash to me *smiles slightly and goes back to his book*

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #63 on: January 22, 2012, 07:45:44 PM »
Definitely slow, all day long. I have faith in Veks though!

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #64 on: January 22, 2012, 07:57:18 PM »
It is definitely giving me fits today, moreso than usual. There for awhile I would click to load a thread I owe a post in and then walk off to watch tv  because it would take up to 5 mins to load. Then it cleared up. Now it is slowing back down again to the point that it was taking 30 seconds just to get the font face drop down to show up.

I think Veks needs to have the hamsters rowing to speed up just a wee bit  O:)

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #65 on: January 22, 2012, 08:14:04 PM »
Poor hamsters.  They need a break too.  Maybe sub in some ferrets?   8-)  Guinea pigs might work also.  They will work for food. ~sage nod~  In all seriousness though, I'm sure it will work out fine.

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2012, 08:18:28 PM »
Reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw once on a really old pickup truck.

"I may be slow but I'm ahead of you."

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2012, 08:29:45 PM »
If I may ask, what is this Lazarus and where do I get it?

It sounds like it comes in handy for saving/caching what one types in forms in case the server lags or croaks.  Normally if you forward or back up or 'x' out of a page, all that 'temporary' content goes poof.

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2012, 09:01:55 PM »
It took over a minute for me to try and navigate away from this page. No idea how long it will take for the post to load.

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2012, 09:28:56 PM »
It's there now, Oreo.  A few minutes ago I tried loading a thread in the Finder's & Seekers and I ended up on a text screen that said the page couldn't load and that the server might be busy and like a dolt I forgot to screen print it. ::)

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2012, 09:30:43 PM »
I had a 502 with a message from Veks in it.

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2012, 09:35:14 PM »
We seem to have a number of problems.

1) Simply, we're out of RAM. We have been for awhile, but now Linux is trying to do lots of silly things like sending a full gig to swap and then panicking while every site I run basically dies as it tries to swap what it needs back in but can't because it really likes to keep about 10% free just in case because.

I -think- I've temporarily solved that issue by restarting most of our server's services (and then because of #3, reboot the server anyway : /). But this is just going to get worse, and more frequent, until we get more RAM. I'll be posting an announcement about this here and on Blue Moon soon.

2) Our I/O situation could be better on its own.
- I should have run the mailserver off the slave server from the beginning.
- I should never have used a RAID. At all.

Regrets : /

I could setup another server 'properly' fairly cheaply (a few hundred), though Elliquiy would go down a couple of times. An SSD would be a far more dramatic improvement, but they are expensive, and I don't want to go that route until Wheezy (next version of the Linux distro I use) is stable.

3) Something else is causing random load spikes and I honestly have no idea what. Some of it, I know, is measures I took to help correct the first issue, but that isn't all of it. There are about a thousand connections to E and other sites I run open at any one time, but the server can and has handled a hundred times that in load testing. File descriptors are a similar story. It's also possible that after 200 days other things happened causing Linux to slowly degrade. 200 days is a long time to be serving millions of pageviews and handling tens of millions of database calls per day.

I just rebooted the server. If that doesn't solve #3 here (besides what I know I caused to mitigate the above) we have Problems : /
- So far, so good, though. A few seemingly random mysterious issues no longer exist. Which is good, when it comes to computers >_> Rebooting still bad : / E-penis size is measured in server uptime.

4) We do occasionally top out CPU usage, but this is incidental and extremely momentary. With the AJAX chat off of E, we tend to peak at about 50% usage.
- Getting another CPU might allow us to turn the AJAX chat back on again, but with our RAM situation so fragile I'd like to get that taken care of, first - or alongside it.


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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2012, 09:38:49 PM »
So I'm not the only one.  For about the last 2 hours getting anything to load has been iffy. 

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2012, 09:43:47 PM »
*hugs Veks*  Thank you for all that work.  It, and you, are greatly appreciated.

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Re: E running slow......
« Reply #74 on: January 22, 2012, 09:47:17 PM »
At the moment at least things are vastly improved on my end.  Thank you, Veks. *hugs*