Eternal Nights (VtM in Las Vegas, Nevada)

[Imogen]

Yeah. Guess I'll have a lot of competition in the "get you what you want" business. Competitors who may be allies/customers, depending on circumstance. But in the end, the kindred of vegas will basically be able get whatever they need, considering how much we've got covered

My Tremere approves of this!

If the GM allows it, I might see if the Path of Technomancy is an option, and go the nerd kid route with my little warlock

[DummieBlondie]

Ah, it's never a bother to me to change something on my sheet--if you are already changing yours, I'll hold off and see if the flaw pops up on any more sheets, and if it does, I'll change mine.

(I am tempted to replace it with the Grip of the Damned flaw, which would give Dominique serious motivations to hire people to find her preferred feeding vessels & for her business, ensure she maintains her Ventrue refinement by never feeding directly, and gives her more motivation to find a lover, because she'd be unable to experience  mutual intimacy when feeding. It'd also amp up that Domme vibe, I think, with the ability to feel pleasure while inflicting pain with her Kiss)

I have already changed mine. :)

[DummieBlondie]

My Tremere approves of this!

If the GM allows it, I might see if the Path of Technomancy is an option, and go the nerd kid route with my little warlock

that is the coolest blood magic in book as far as I have read until now.

[Thorne]

Yeah. Guess I'll have a lot of competition in the "get you what you want" business. Competitors who may be allies/customers, depending on circumstance. But in the end, the kindred of vegas will basically be able get whatever they need, considering how much we've got covered

Is that a bad thing? If we have different specialisations, we're not competing... ^^;

.. and she doesn't /do/ computers. Security systems, yes. Not /computers/. Those aren't something she's figured out how to finesse...

[Rummy Tum Tum]

Not bad at all. Like I said we've got a lot covered :)

[Blythe]

I am still tempted to take that Grip of the Damned flaw instead of the Permanent Fangs anyway, if only because I feel like it has so much more potential for Dominique RP-wise. I think it gives her a weakness that makes her rely on her business with vitae and gives her a very persuasive reason to use Dominate on mortals...




Oooh--Blondie! Looking at Felisja's sheet--I could see some awesome tension with her and Dominique. Dominique's all about the blood trade, and if Felisja can sometimes make mortals ill with her bite, that might hinder my Ventrue's vitae-based business! *is looking forward to seeing what happens if Felisja's infectious bite comes into play*

And with Lockepick's character of Montgomery, I could easily see Dominique relying on him to provide critique so she knows what expensive art is 'in' and worth it to buy and what isn't. Dominique's not all that skilled at discerning what might be classy and what might not. She would trust a Toreador's word for it. After all, her comfort zone is just luxury, and I suspect that it's possible for her to go garishly over the top. Perhaps Montgomery can provide her a much needed opinion to give her restraint in her purchases.

Here's what I'm thinking for interactions.  As always, I'll give options and suggestions, which people are welcome to ignore or dismiss as they feel is improbable.

Dominique Whittaker (Blythe): I see these two as having a pretty cordial relationship.  If Dominique offers minor things like pocket money, washing clothes, the ability to erase the memories of Masquerade violations, and so on, Catherine can handle things like the occasional bodyguarding, introducing homeless people that might fit qualities that Dominique is looking for, and listening in on seedy/criminal conversations.  I imagine Dominique as the one who taught Catherine Firearms 1 at the shooting range and who taught her to put down a towel before jumping onto an expensive couch in dirty clothes, but that requires your call.  If Catherine knows about Dominique's phobia, she will Animalism Hiss at snakes so they don't bother Dominique.

I like this a lot, especially the idea of Dominique having taught Cat how to shoot. I could see Cat being a sort of 'temp' bodyguard whenever Dominique's having problems finding a guard, but more than that, she might consider Cat a friend, especially if Cat will scare off snakes for her. (I'm down for Cat knowing about Dominique's phobia!)

Hades and I have already plotted his character's seedy connection to mine (and some possible hilarity that might result). I'm def. looking forward to seeing the final sheet result!

*much curious about Rummy's Setite & Imogen's Tremere*

*also super curious about Orange's and Thorne's characters*

[Rummy Tum Tum]

Trying to figure out how to allocate my points right now. Mostly stuck on the contacts/influence side of things. Got judges/cops in mind so far, but would black market ties be counted as contacts or influence? Looking online, I saw it as a 1-5 point merit, but I don't believe that's in the book.

[Blythe]

I have opted to replace Permanent Fangs with Grip of the Damned, which gave me another freebie to throw into Willpower, woot. OwO

Trying to figure out how to allocate my points right now. Mostly stuck on the contacts/influence side of things. Got judges/cops in mind so far, but would black market ties be counted as contacts or influence? Looking online, I saw it as a 1-5 point merit, but I don't believe that's in the book.

*is also curious about this*

[Hades]

I'm taking them as contacts myself, but that's just me.

[DummieBlondie]

Trying to figure out how to allocate my points right now. Mostly stuck on the contacts/influence side of things. Got judges/cops in mind so far, but would black market ties be counted as contacts or influence? Looking online, I saw it as a 1-5 point merit, but I don't believe that's in the book.

As far as I know from my past WoD experiences influence is for pulling some strings then hoping for the best while contacts is about personally knowing the guy(s) who you should talk to about things. So I think it is about what kind of relationship do you want with the black market.

[Blythe]

Also, Sith, if you need someone to run Sabbat NPCs, I might be willing to do that, if you'll work with me on ensuring Dominique is never put in a position in the story to have to face the Sabbat. (Though as a heads up, I don't play Sabbat characters with the intention of them surviving, so my general goals would be for them to wreck stuff and act as general pains in the butt until the Camarilla characters can take 'em out)

[AndyZ]

Fair point.
As I look at it, the vampire has to make a point of not showing their teeth, and it's something they're going to be aware of literally every time they open their mouth. How often we humans bare ours, usually without thinking about it? We laugh, we smile, we talk; all that shows teeth, and doesn't even get into snarling or screaming or all those other things we do that also show teeth. A vampire who has to consider who might be looking - especially in this age of cameras fraggin' /everywhere/ - is probably not going to be doing those things as often.

I .. might have spent a little too long thinking on this. ^^;

The rough part about Permanent Fangs is that you can't even close your mouth the whole way.  Try getting some of those costume plastic fangs and see.

I like this a lot, especially the idea of Dominique having taught Cat how to shoot. I could see Cat being a sort of 'temp' bodyguard whenever Dominique's having problems finding a guard, but more than that, she might consider Cat a friend, especially if Cat will scare off snakes for her. (I'm down for Cat knowing about Dominique's phobia!)

A simple thing of note with Cat is that she doesn't like firearms not because they're deadly but because they're loud.  She has a little trouble with the idea of making unnecessary noise, especially in a combat situation.  Kiais in Martial Arts movies absolutely puzzle her.

Trying to figure out how to allocate my points right now. Mostly stuck on the contacts/influence side of things. Got judges/cops in mind so far, but would black market ties be counted as contacts or influence? Looking online, I saw it as a 1-5 point merit, but I don't believe that's in the book.

Contacts are all about and purely about information.  You know a lot of people and can find out stuff, but you have less in the way of having anyone of substance who can actually do stuff for you.  Think of police detective movies where the protag goes to see Jimmy the Snitch, leans on him a little, and finds out the next bit of information.

Influence is having someone who can actually get stuff done that you want, but aren't as likely to know as much pure information.

While Influence is better to help you get illegal weaponry in the black market, Contacts is better to find out who's buying and selling.

Also, Sith, if you need someone to run Sabbat NPCs, I might be willing to do that, if you'll work with me on ensuring Dominique is never put in a position in the story to have to face the Sabbat. (Though as a heads up, I don't play Sabbat characters with the intention of them surviving, so my general goals would be for them to wreck stuff and act as general pains in the butt until the Camarilla characters can take 'em out)

Just assume that whenever a Sabbat visits the Palazzo, Cat leaves their severed head at the foot of Dominique's bed ^_^

[Lockepick]

What is the general idea here anyway? Is this a sandbox, or more of a coterie?

[SithLordOfSnark]

I am so sorry for taking so long to reply, guys. I've been busy as heck the last couple days and also my email is flooded with lots of old stuff I'm needing to clear out.

@Blythe: That would be great, thank you.

@Others: Please send me your finished character sheets via PM before posting them here. I'd rather ask for any required changes in private before you post them, rather then have to tell you it won't work in the thread.

Either way, everything seems great so far and I'm excited to get this going. :)

@Lockepick: Can I have a clarification on what you're asking precisely?

[DummieBlondie]

@Others: Please send me your finished character sheets via PM before posting them here. I'd rather ask for any required changes in private before you post them, rather then have to tell you it won't work in the thread.

I can remove it if you want. I posted it for getting some help from people since I am a total newbie about VtM even if I have WoD experience.

By the way thanks again everyone!

[Thorne]

The rough part about Permanent Fangs is that you can't even close your mouth the whole way.  Try getting some of those costume plastic fangs and see.

I have; I've seen them worn. Never seen anyone have trouble closing their mouths. But damn if they're not super obvious if the wearer opens their mouth too much. Forget smiling.
The cheap ones.. yah, I can see not being able to close your mouth with those. :/

I wouldn't expect most vampires - Nos aside, and maybe a couple others I'm not familiar with - to have long, snaggly fangs, though. It's not like you need much pressure to break skin, if the breaking object is sharp enough. YMMV?

[AndyZ]

Gonna admit that I always got the cheap ones.  I didn't realize there was real variety to them.  Thank you for educating me ^_^

[Thorne]

Gonna admit that I always got the cheap ones.  I didn't realize there was real variety to them.  Thank you for educating me ^_^

Spirit of Halloween has some of the best costume pieces....
While I didn't get my goblin ears from them, I have seen /all kinds/ of  .. .everything. And they have /all kinds of fangs/. From the cheap to the slightly better quality - I think you can get really good, custom-fitted fangs for a lot more, but.. heh, I'm not sure what kind of hoops you have to jump through for those.

*likes to share* ^^;

[AndyZ]

The last time I went to a costume party was off in college.  I think 2003?  Maybe 2004?  I went in my pajamas.  When people asked what I was, I just laughed.

Apparently that's become much more popular since then, with people claiming that they just got out of bed and all such.  Kinda takes all the fun out of it, if you ask me, if you actually justify it.

I've toyed with the idea of dressing up like Calvin from Calvin and Hobbes, specifically the comic strip where he wears his pants as a shirt and his shirt as pants, but I'd probably make myself figure out how to get his actual outfit together.

...and, I think I've just summed myself up nicely.

[Orange Marmalade]

I wouldn't expect most vampires - Nos aside, and maybe a couple others I'm not familiar with - to have long, snaggly fangs, though.

I wouldn't either, but that's why it is a flaw and not standard vampires :)

The flaw says it is impossible to hide your true nature if you have them. 3 Point appearance based flaws are always obvious. For characters who have the flaw... anybody can/will notice them without a roll, though in Vegas it may be easy to say you're a body mod type person and you've had them filed down.

[DummieBlondie]

I wouldn't either, but that's why it is a flaw and not standard vampires :)

The flaw says it is impossible to hide your true nature if you have them. 3 Point appearance based flaws are always obvious. For characters who have the flaw... anybody can/will notice them without a roll, though in Vegas it may be easy to say you're a body mod type person and you've had them filed down.

Well of course people going to notice them. but I think the main issue is if they are also going understand that you are a vampire or not?
what I think just because of a pair of pointy teeth if everyone going to scream "he is vampire, he is a vampire" then there wasn't a masquerade at all.

[Orange Marmalade]

Well of course people going to notice them. but I think the main issue is if they are also going understand that you are also a vampire or not?
what I think just because of a pair of pointy teeth if everyone going to scream "he is vampire, he is a vampire" then there wasn't a masquerade at all.

Definitely agree - especially in Vegas I bet most people would probably laugh it off. The problem is being known as the guy/gal with pointy fangs when hunters/werewolves/whatever other nasties are around :)

[DummieBlondie]

Definitely agree - especially in Vegas I bet most people would probably laugh it off. The problem is being known as the guy/gal with pointy fangs when hunters/werewolves/whatever other nasties are around :)

I think those nasties will figure out who are freaking vampires any ways. Since they are also some kind of supernaturals and have their own ways to find their shit.

[Thorne]

I wouldn't either, but that's why it is a flaw and not standard vampires :)

The flaw says it is impossible to hide your true nature if you have them. 3 Point appearance based flaws are always obvious. For characters who have the flaw... anybody can/will notice them without a roll, though in Vegas it may be easy to say you're a body mod type person and you've had them filed down.

True...
But I've also had GMs tell me that the RP'd precautions were enough. The trick was that I /had to RP those precautions/. Felicia doesn't smile, she doesn't really laugh, she rarely speaks - probably a relief for a lot of elders tired of the endlessly-chattering whelps running about - largely because she is fully aware she has a mouthful of knives, or at least, sufficient knives to make people do double-takes if she isn't careful.

.. and in Cam cities, it's a major issue, which... well. She doesn't talk much.

I may find another one. But finding flaws that /fit her/ is .. ugh. It's enough to make a saint swear. I might have to dig through a couple more books while Snark's vetting my sheet. :/

[Lockepick]

@Lockepick: Can I have a clarification on what you're asking precisely?

Is this going to be a game where we're all just sort of running around with our own goals? Or is there going to be a plot that involves us all coming together and working together to solve some major plot?