Let me try to point out what I was talking about
‘OK, so what about our more famous "prophets"; Jesus of Nazareth, Moses, Mohammed…’
‘hmmm… sadly misguided I’m afraid. I am not here to act as a safety net or ethical dictator for evolving species. It is true that anyone capable of communicating with their own cells will dimly perceive a connection to me – and all other objects in this universe - through the quantum foam, but interpreting that vision as representing something supernatural and requiring obeisance is somewhat wide of the mark. And their followers are all a bit too obsessive and religious for my liking. It's no fun being worshipped once you stop being an adolescent teenager. Having said that, it's not at all unusual for developing species to go through that phase. Until they begin to grasp how much they too can shape their small corner of the universe, they are in understandable awe of an individual dimly but correctly perceived to be responsible for the creation of the whole of that universe. Eventually, if they are to have any hope of attaining level two, they must grow out of it and begin to accept their own power and potential. It's very akin to a child’s relationship with its parents. The awe and worship must disappear before the child can become an adult. Respect is not so bad as long as it's not overdone. And I certainly respect all those species who make it that far. It’s a hard slog. I know. I've been there.’
Here we see god, refer to the prophets and religious as misguided individuals. Going with the story, in a sense they are. They created beliefs and then people continued to worship those beliefs as time moved on but they were never a creation of god. He goes on to reffer to the religions made by Christian "prophets" (I use that term extremely loosely) as far to obsessive and religious for his personal tastes. This goes into an unfair sterotype. While there certainly are obsessive people involved in the different religions by and far most are just normal people who believe what they believe and live their lives by the morales, ethics, and philosophies that their religion has taught them.
Its even more damning when I see the word all put in there. Specifically here: "And their followers are all a bit too obsessive and religious for my liking."
The word all is a word made to say that everyone in that group applies to the adjectives describing them. I can say all humans are bipedal and be correct but no one can give a blanket statement to a cultural group like that. Its just a pot shot IMO and god would know better, especially if he wants the dialouge posted for future generations
‘so we’re not obliged to "please" you or follow your alleged guidelines or anything like that?’
‘absolutely not. Never issued a single guideline in the lifetime of this Universe. Have to find your own way out of the maze. And one early improvement is to stop expecting me - or anyone else - to come and help you out.'
'I suppose that is a guideline of sorts, so there goes the habit of a lifetime! '
'Seriously though, species who hold on to religion past its sell-by date tend to be most likely to self destruct. They spend so much energy arguing about my true nature, and invest so much emotion in their wildly erroneous imagery that they end up killing each other over differences in definitions of something they clearly haven’t got a clue about. Ludicrous behaviour, but it does weed out the weaklings.’
‘Why me? Why pick on an atheist of all people? Why are you telling me all this? And why Now?’
‘Why You? Because you can accept my existence without your ego caving in and grovelling like a naughty child. '
'Can you seriously imagine how the Pope would react to the reality of my existence?! If he really understood how badly wrong he and his church have been, how much of the pain and suffering you mentioned earlier has been caused by his religion, I suspect he'd have an instant coronary! Or can you picture what it would be like if I appeared "live" simultaneously on half a dozen tele-evangelist propaganda shows. Pat Robertson would wet himself if he actually understood who he was talking to.
Conversely, your interest is purely academic. You've never swallowed the fairy tale but you've remained open to the possibility of a more advanced life form which could acquire godlike powers. You’ve correctly guessed that godhood is the destiny of life. You have shown you can and do cope with the concept. It seemed reasonable to confirm your suspicions and let you do what you will with that information.
I can see you're already thinking about publishing this conversation on the web where it could sow an important seed. Might take a couple of hundred years to germinate, but, eventually, it will germinate.
Why now? Well partly because both you and the web are ready now. But chiefly because the human race is reaching a critical phase. It goes back to what we were saying about the dangers of knowledge. Essentially your species is becoming aware of that danger. When that happens to any sapient species, the future can take three courses.
Many are tempted to avoid the danger by avoiding the knowledge. Like the adaptors, they are doomed to extinction. Often pleasantly enough in the confines of their own planet until either their will to live expires or their primary turns red giant and snuffs them out.
A large number go on blindly acquiring the knowledge and don't learn to restrain their abuse. Their fate is sealed somewhat more quickly of course, when Pandora’s box blows up in their faces.
The only ones who reach level two are those who learn to accept and to live with their most dangerous knowledge. Each and every individual in such a species must eventually become capable of destroying their entire species at any time. Yet they must learn to control themselves to the degree that they can survive even such deadly insight. And frankly, they’re the only ones we really want to see leaving their solar systems. Species that haven’t achieved that maturity could not be allowed to infect the rest of the universe, but fortunately that has never required my intervention. The knowledge always does the trick’
In this area we see god take a very negative view of religion itself, neglecting the fact that not all religions share a belief in god. Again a creature as powerful as him would know to use correct launguage. He points out earlier that religion is a common and needed evolutionary tool but after a certain point in the species evolution its just bad as they argue over him and what he wants people to do (again neglects the fact that there are non-theist religions which causes a major hole in the argument).
Going in further he makes a specific bashing attempt at the pope (I assume thats supposed to be Pope Benedict but I dont know the original date the article was written or even if it was meant to bash a specific Pope). Here he says plainly that he and the catholic church could not handle his existance which is compeltely false. As evidence I point to an event that happened in...I want to say 2008 where the catholic church made an announcement stating that the existance of extraterrestrial life would not interfere with the existance of god (or maybe it was the scriptures, Im not 100% sure). This is an evolving point of view for the church. The fact that this and other evolving points of view are not being acknowledged, and the assumption that said group couldnt handle being confronted with the truth, is the same kind of christian bashing tactic often used by anti-theists I have met and spoken to at length. Granted, some wouldnt be able to handle it but again not all of them would.
I found it interesting, yet a bit hypocritical, that the entire article talks about humankind evolving. It even makes it a point to say how we evolve is up to us. However, if one evolves religiously, any kind of religion then thats bad. Thus pot shots at mainly christianity but at religion overall
See where Im coming from?