Let me get this right, a group of Muslims fly fully fueled airplanes into our buildings, killing a large number of our people on our soil, and we are being asked to be tolerant and forgiving? Perhaps they, whoever they are should choose to demonstrate some tact and build their mosque and community center a more respectful distance away. Their religion and message can be expressed just as well elsewhere as within 2 blocks of the site.
Why are we the ones asked to forever bend, yield, and forgive? Perhaps once, they should be the ones who chose the better part of valor.
Because we KNOW better than the nutjobs that flew said planes into the towers.
I've known something like the better part of 200 or so Muslims in my time in the Navy. Most of them servicemen. I've talked to Muslims on four continents.
You know what? Most of them despise and fear the folks like the Talaban and Bin Laden's merry men. Because as much as these people want us dead, how ever much they do to us and ours.. The radicals do more to THEM.
Who do the Taliban oppress the most? Not you or me.
The individual tribesman who knows if he disagrees they will kill him, his wife or child. The businessman that speaks out. The Iman who preaches tolerance. The man in the street who is trying to better himself and his family.
They are thugs, bullies and bandits. You're dealing with people who don't debate or discuss. They kill and oppress. They use us as the bad guys so that the people they REALLY oppress and hurt don't think about what they can do to fight back.
And historically guys.. We, the western world, have SERIOUSLY screwed the pooch on who we've helped out there.
Come on... how many problems have we've made or left behind after our 'mission complete' parade?
Saddam? We supported him.
The Shah of Iran? One of the nastiest most evil fuckers that ever lived.
The Taliban/Al Quadi? WE TRAINED them to fight the Russians..then left them high and dry.
WE MADE THIS PROBLEM. We did. For nearly 60 years.
To fix it, we need to accept a few things.
1. These evil men are NOT the true face of the Islamic faith, but the most vocal ones.
2. We need to fix our fuck ups. That means build governments, make people in the region realize THEY can do something.
3. Help the few moderate groups out there to survive.
4. Accept that it took 60 years to get us in this whole and it's not getting fixed tomorrow (politician's promises aside) and if we don't fix it now.. Our children and grandchildren will pay the price. We inherited this mess, we made it worse but we don't have to pass it along.