Exactly, if your damned eather way, how about the damned that saves money, lives, and not draw the anger of the Muslim world.
I disagree. Its not like the Mideast woke up one day, pointed at the US on a map and said "See these guys? Fuck them.". They dislike the amount of interference the US pulls in the Mideast, and its been happening long before any of the gulf wars started.
Your over simplifying by thinking that the United States is the sole basis and root cause. While at the same time declaring that most of the middle east does not want us there. I would contend that. For a lot of the middle east wants us there. They see as a beacon of hope to further there aims. While just as many don't want us.
The point is that you really don't understand middle east politic or motivations of you try to summarize in a western attitudes and beliefs. Think of it as a big chess board. An each move is made and counter moved. That is the world of politics within the middle east.
Example the western civilization looks at Iran. As a country that would like to wipe all the Jewish people off the face of the earth. Because of comments made by their president. But does anyone realize that is a strong surviving Jewish community in Tehran. With even Jewish Iranians in what is the Iranian parliament. That more then a million still visit the tomb of Esther, from the bible. The Jewish queen/wife of Xertes. That Ramadan is in fact from Prince Mordecai the Jewish uncle elevated to such by Xertes of Esther.
This alone should show the complexities to the middle east that truly is not recognized and generalized. The movie 'Bodies of Lies' this is a good watch. It catches and portrays the essence of the political by play that is a constant and way of doing things within the middle east.
Just as most seem to be lumping the Muslim Arab world in one lump category. When in fact it is much diverse. From not only nationalities, from the various sects of Islam to breaking down to even individual tribes.
Which then leads to this thread or many within it is linking the over all political climate as root in cause to Iraq to the Israel and Palestinians conflict. That is not the case in point. Was the United States right in going in and toppling a legitimate sovereign government. A case both ways can be made. For the old regime was repressive to its own people. Committing genocide upon such fractions as the Kurds. However, the truth as much of a tyrant he was an actual a tool for the United States and the west. As he broke up what is now turned into the Shiite crescent of power within that region. Because the Iran, Iraq eight year war was not formed over our doing. But in root cause the complexities of the middle east.
Now why does the west have such a vested interested. Well that very style of complexities of political climate leads to a degree of unrest and unsuitability. And right now the west is slave to the carbon based fossil fuels. In such a great way that it can topple economies. While on Israel, it is born out of the fact of the holocaust of world war two. In which is another whole story of the eluded excuse given because of the treaty of Versailles. In which the German state got the shaft for world war one. Where as the young unified state of Germany went from having one the most brilliant leaders ever in Otto Von Bismarck to a charismatic flawed insane leader such as Hitler. In the span of just seventy years. So how is it that the Jewish people had become the scapegoats of that treaty that had doomed Germany and breeded the Nazi party rise and thus the eventual second world war.
Well with having gone a bit off subject, I will remain so with this next. So if and when we the United States pulls out of Iraq. What is going to be the reaction if and a very big possibility that Syria and Iran carve up the Iraq country. If this were to happen would there be an outcry about the Iraq people having there own sovereign nation. That is just one of the dilemmas facing the United States and President Obama. And before some of you rush to it. That we are greatly to blame for. So that is another of the reasons that many do not want us to leave with in the Arab Muslim world.
So why is it that the illusion is given that most of the Arab world hates us. Is it because these terrorist instead of targeting military only. Target the civilian populous. In which are greater guilt is to be found. That we have failed to protect adequately. An thus anger at us over this is what gives rise. So then do you really believe these people embrace and love those that are suicide bombers. That have killed wifes, husbands, brothers, sisters, son, daughters and so on. In people that just want to live their lives. That once again you are over simplifying the middle east.