What's in the News? 2.0

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TheGlyphstone

And to nobody's surprise, Clarence Thomas is already chomping at the bit to go after Griswold v. Connecticut (right to buy and use contraception), Lawrence v. Texas (the right to engage in intimate, consensual sexual conduct [aka anti-sodomy laws]) and Obergefell vs. Hodges (right to same-sex marriages).

How does anyone manage to argue these days that the American right-wing is not waging legislative war against the LGBT+?

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Lady Sakura

Quote from: Lustful Bride on June 24, 2022, 12:05:22 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/justice-thomas-hints-gay-rights-and-contraception-at-risk-after-conservative-majority-overturns-roe-v-wade/ar-AAYPz1F?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=77c805bfba494a36ab0bd2568a8eee37

Even if you don't like a Blue candidate, at this point voting for Democrats is going to become a matter of survival.

This, but have to be careful some Blue Candidates are against LGBTQA+ rights. Really have to look at their policies and who they are getting their money from.

Hades

Quote from: Lady Sakura on June 24, 2022, 11:31:36 AM
Women in those 26 states, might as well load up on them really good sex toys, no point in risking it by sleeping with a man. Tell them to piss off.

I'm so enraged. 

I hate religion...some conservatives are only for forced birth, they aren't prolife at all. They care more about their guns then the lives of children. They can more about controlling women's rights than they do helping to support them. Maternity leave is only 10 wks, baby formula is like over 50 bucks a can, and it's hard to get wick to get milk and stuff for kids. there isn't any help with you're struggling and you cant feed your child. They are just well...

Like the late great philosopher George Carlin said -  "If you're pre-born you're fine, if you're pre-school, you're fucked"

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Quote from: Lady Sakura on June 24, 2022, 11:48:00 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself, my friend. This decision impacts more black women, indigenous women, and poor women in general. Teenagers who make one bad choice. However, when it comes to protecting life from covid, my wearing a mask, conservatives want to preach - my body my decision.

Rape victims, victims of incest, women who have a pregnancy go bad.

Need a nationwide sex-embargo at this point.
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Lady Sakura

Quote from: ShadowFox89 on June 24, 2022, 12:13:53 PM
Rape victims, victims of incest, women who have a pregnancy go bad.

Need a nationwide sex-embargo at this point.

If it's incest you are able to get an abortion in some of the red states (Unless you're Alabama). However, victims of Rape are not, you're SOL.

stormwyrm

Quote from: ShadowFox89 on June 24, 2022, 12:13:53 PM
Need a nationwide sex-embargo at this point.

Looks like it's time for all women in the US to agree to implement the Lysistrata strategy.
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Quote from: Lady Sakura on June 24, 2022, 11:31:36 AM
Women in those 26 states, might as well load up on them really good sex toys, no point in risking it by sleeping with a man. Tell them to piss off.

I'm so enraged. 

I hate religion...some conservatives are only for forced birth, they aren't prolife at all. They care more about their guns then the lives of children. They can more about controlling women's rights than they do helping to support them. Maternity leave is only 10 wks, baby formula is like over 50 bucks a can, and it's hard to get wick to get milk and stuff for kids. there isn't any help with you're struggling and you cant feed your child. They are just well...

Here's a great article on how the Moral Majority has always been about segregation

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133/

A Jewish organization is also suing that Florida's abortion ban violates their religious freedom, since under Reform Judaism as well as several others abortion is required when the mother's life is at risk.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/florida-abortion-ban-violates-jews-religious-freedom-lawsuit-says-2022-06-14/

Laughing Hyena

Much like how a king doesn't care about sacrificing peasants to a dragon. He won't be concerned unless it's his own daughter that is the one being sacrificed. Then said dragon must die. That's the crux of the matter when it comes to conservatives. It does not affect their lives so they don't care if it hurts anyone else they do not know or care about.

This is the mindset that brought about this ruling. Fuck the boys club these assholes represent. This saying has become a outright motto they live by.

"My body, my choice, your problem"

I think that summed up both their stances on birth control and pandemics nicely.

Lady Sakura

Quote from: Laughing Hyena on June 24, 2022, 01:55:16 PM
Much like how a king doesn't care about sacrificing peasants to a dragon. He won't be concerned unless it's his own daughter that is the one being sacrificed. Then said dragon must die. That's the crux of the matter when it comes to conservatives. It does not affect their lives so they don't care if it hurts anyone else they do not know or care about.

This is the mindset that brought about this ruling. Fuck the boys club these assholes represent. This saying has become a outright motto they live by.

"My body, my choice, your problem"

I think that summed up both their stances on birth control and pandemics nicely.

Only when it involves a conservative who has an affair and their affair gets knocked up. Then they are all terminating an unwanted pregnancy. 

Kurogane

Quote from: Lady Sakura on June 24, 2022, 01:59:47 PM
Only when it involves a conservative who has an affair and their affair gets knocked up. Then they are all terminating an unwanted pregnancy.

Oh wow. You had to go there!  We were trying to keep that quiet.  Yeesh!

Vlexia

Quote from: Lady Sakura on June 24, 2022, 11:31:36 AM
Women in those 26 states, might as well load up on them really good sex toys, no point in risking it by sleeping with a man. Tell them to piss off.

I'm so enraged. 

I hate religion...some conservatives are only for forced birth, they aren't prolife at all. They care more about their guns then the lives of children. They can more about controlling women's rights than they do helping to support them. Maternity leave is only 10 wks, baby formula is like over 50 bucks a can, and it's hard to get wick to get milk and stuff for kids. there isn't any help with you're struggling and you cant feed your child. They are just well...


100000% agree with this.

The problem with the modern conservative mind is this: they want full freedom for THEMSELVES and small infringement on THEIR faith-based opinions, but the government that tells OTHERS what to do they want it to be big and DEEP in the live’s of others. That’s why wearing a mask was “infringing” on their rights: they were being TOLD what to do. And no amount of facts, science, or common sense could sway their simple, single-cell, lead-filled minds.

My hands are shaking. My heart is pounding. My stomach is in knots. I’m protesting at every opportunity and I will NOT be wearing that stupid ass Handmaid’s Tale bullshit. Full on Hoodoo Warrior Regalia. Dressing for the job I want…which apparently is “Headhunter…”

If you cannot honor a No, then you certainly could never honor a Yes.

KnightmareTerror

As a Canadian, this whole thing makes me sick.  The US really is trying to go back to the "good ol' days" when women (and let's face it, to these people, everyone with a uterus is a woman, they're the same people who deny that trans people actually exist, and don't even get them started on non-binary people) were property and men ruled the land with an iron fist.

AFAB Americans, if you can afford to, get the hell out.  If you can't, lie, cheat, beg, bribe, and steal if you have to.  The US isn't safe for you.

TheBlackThrone

I am glad that I got to teleworking today because today was not the day to go to work.

The U.S. doesn't run from problems. We handle our problems, and this is a problem that will be handled. I am more afraid of the rioting and chaos that may be unleashed as a result, and the freedoms now granted to rapists, but we will fix this problem as we always manage to do.

Right now, the States have the power to allow it or deny it because it is not federal law. If you are in one of those states that do not support your needs, I would change locations if you can afford it.
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Considering the current housing situation/rental market, if you can afford to drop everything and relocate, you're probably in the class that can afford to simply catch a flight to another state for 'medical tourism'.
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Sadly the writing is on the wall for lgbtqia+ rights as well. They are not going to stop with just this.

Fucking hell, the GQP isn't a political party anymore, it is a white christian fundamentalist organization. And I know I for one am planning to get the fuck out of this country as soon as I can. It is so fucking sad. And I am so angry.
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Lady Sakura

We just have to really push and get in there and vote. The young generation needs to vote no matter what; especially in their home states. Find out who is making the laws in your state and vote them in or out.

It's because people didn't vote when it mattered that Trump got elected and was able to put in 2 conservative justices. We just need the old religious boomers to slip into their graves. That's 6:3 on the courts even with Justice brown taking over for Breyers. Thomas's wife was in some stuff with the insurrection so hopefully they'll figure out some way to get him to step down as well.

CyranoDeBergerac

Quote from: Lady Sakura on June 24, 2022, 07:03:23 PM
We just have to really push and get in there and vote. The young generation needs to vote no matter what; especially in their home states. Find out who is making the laws in your state and vote them in or out.

Exactly this. In 1932 SocDems and Communists spent more time fighting each other (with legitimate grievances) than they did opposing fascists and Hindeburg.

TheBlackThrone

Quote from: Oniya on June 24, 2022, 06:56:36 PM
Considering the current housing situation/rental market, if you can afford to drop everything and relocate, you're probably in the class that can afford to simply catch a flight to another state for 'medical tourism'.

It's a matter of tax dollars because that is all governments understand. Unless you are in a tax free state, your tax dollars go toward the support of that state and its laws. If a significant people leave that state, then it forces them to have to make a change because the state loses money. It is a shame that that's the only way they will see any significance in the matter, but money is the ultimate decider in most decisions. Whose money is always the question.
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Quote from: Lady Sakura on June 24, 2022, 07:03:23 PM

It's because people didn't vote when it mattered that Trump got elected and was able to put in 2 conservative justices.


Unfortunately that tacky, racist, orange, pumpkin of a rancid cunt actually nominated 3 Supreme Court judges….

People didn’t listen to marginalized groups when they said this would happen in the 2016 election.

If you cannot honor a No, then you certainly could never honor a Yes.

Lady Sakura

Quote from: Vlexia on June 24, 2022, 07:09:00 PM

Unfortunately that tacky, racist, orange, pumpkin of a rancid cunt actually nominated 3 Supreme Court judges….
Oh yeah tots forgot about Gorsuch, Neil M.

Quote from: Vlexia on June 24, 2022, 07:09:00 PM
People didn’t listen to marginalized groups when they said this would happen in the 2016 election.

Probably still aren't listening to them now.

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Quote from: TheBlackThrone on June 24, 2022, 07:06:55 PM
It's a matter of tax dollars because that is all governments understand. Unless you are in a tax free state, your tax dollars go toward the support of that state and its laws. If a significant people leave that state, then it forces them to have to make a change because the state loses money. It is a shame that that's the only way they will see any significance in the matter, but money is the ultimate decider in most decisions. Whose money is always the question.

Again, if the people that are going to be the most affected by the reversal could just pack up and leave then they wouldn't be in the most affected group. They'd be able to take a "camping trip" for a weekend to another state and get around their state's law with no issue.

The people who are going to be the most affected are the poor, the people of color, the indigenous women.  They don't have the money to make the trip out of state for the procedure so they aren't going to have the money to just up and move.

Sadly, we are past the point of 'get out and vote'.  The justices on the supreme court are there for life.  Beau from The Fifth Column has it right.  It's time to unpack the court. Add more justices and dilute the conservative votes.  Getting rid of the filibuster and codfying roe v wade would be a step in the right direction but it wont stop the attack on LGBTQIA or birth control.  That is why more justices needed to be added and soon.
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Not a huge amount to add to what has already been said other than my heart goes out to everyone in the USA who is forced to live under this horrendous system.

stormwyrm

Since the bastards are on a roll, maybe they'll try to overturn Loving v. Virginia next. Anti-miscegenation laws back on the books!
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Quote from: stormwyrm on June 24, 2022, 10:50:32 PM
Since the bastards are on a roll, maybe they'll try to overturn Loving v. Virginia next. Anti-miscegenation laws back on the books!

No cause Justice Thomas is married to a white woman and Justice Jackson is married to a white man. He wouldn't make it illegal for him to be married to his wife.