Overlords (Pathfinder Mythic Sandbox)

[Snake]

Advanced is better I think

+4 to all stats and +2 nat AC rather than a slew of spell like abilities I won't use

[Krys]

Would you guys suggest trying to join this game with limited knowledge about Pathfinder? I just started playing Pathfinder this year, and surely am not up to the task of building an mechanically optimized char.  I'm a role player of 25+ years of experience, and thus I'm very much up to playing a nice role.

What are your thoughts on that?

[Snake]

Possible; you'll just need to take building a bit slow and read through your options carefully to see waht meshes well with what you want to do.

[Knarfy]

Mmmm, I mean, everything's on the SRD, so that makes it a lot easier.

So long as you don't do anything crazy, it isn't that hard. Also, even if you don't 'optimize', it's not that hard to spend your resources on something perfectly viable. Plus we can help if you get stuck. Really it just comes down to how much time you're willing to devote to picking out the 100 different feats and whatever that you end up with

[Krys]

Base premise of the char idea: a young woman inherited the character of her grandmother lovingly played for almost 67 year. In honor of her beloved grandmothers passing, she attends the "funeral" of the game that meant so much for her. Thus, despite knowing near to nothing about this world, she is caught in the change, a very young and inexperienced mind, in a epic avatar. Will she be able to stand up to the legacy of hers?

[Pockets]

On the subject of using the floating mountain top, we could always take a page out of Forgotten Realms and use something like a Mythallar that would essentially allow us to take the top off a mountain, invert it, and keep it floating above the rest of the world (and potentially move it as needed). If we've got a Wizard/Sorcerer/Arcanist going Archmage or a Cleric going Heirophant it shouldn't be that hard to manage.

But if we're doing the whole multiple layers going down, then my character is calling dibs on the entrance level. He's going to put up an Inn and a general store so those stupid enough to actually assault the Guild Hall will stock up on whatever they might feel is necessary and he'll make a quick buck.

[Knarfy]

Base premise of the char idea: a young woman inherited the character of her grandmother lovingly played for almost 67 year. In honor of her beloved grandmothers passing, she attends the "funeral" of the game that meant so much for her. Thus, despite knowing near to nothing about this world, she is caught in the change, a very young and inexperienced mind, in a epic avatar. Will she be able to stand up to the legacy of hers?

I actually like that a lot

Maybe Grandma was even the old guildmaster or something.

[Krys]

I actually like that a lot

Maybe Grandma was even the old guildmaster or something.

That might be possible, though my char wouldn't try to claim that post for her own. Class wise I'm thinking about a strong supporter. Maybe an artificer, and/or construct mancer? Granny was the care bear that kept the guild (and family) together in both worlds. And my char is overwhelmed by trying to deal with that shoes to walk in.

Does this sound like a plan? Does it conflict with other chars? Do you have suggestions which class (especially of the PrC / high end) to base on?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Hmm I hate to do this really but I think I'm going to withdraw my character build and draw up a new one I've wanted to play a fully powered version of my Sanosuke char for god knows how long and this is a perfect chance to do so. In a game like this: I'd do it as well so it makes sense.

Advanced Demonspawn Tiefling of Terror! (CR 21, TError has a CR+0 mod) Rageshaper 10/Dragon Disciple 10 to a black Dragon :3 I get to go dragon when I rage or just whenevers! :3

Is that acceptable? It's well within the build allowment.

It's accetable build yeah. Also half-fiend would fit as well and also spell-alikes can cover some cool stuff (like Destruction, Unholy Aura, Blasphemy, Horrid Wilting). Their one shot wonders true, but also potent spells which do not even show in sorcerer list . Plus lots immunities.

Krys: Welcome to game :). As mentioned you do not need optimize char that much to get in (or fit in). So make whatever is fun for you to play :)

[ChaoticSky]

That might be possible, though my char wouldn't try to claim that post for her own. Class wise I'm thinking about a strong supporter. Maybe an artificer, and/or construct mancer? Granny was the care bear that kept the guild (and family) together in both worlds. And my char is overwhelmed by trying to deal with that shoes to walk in.

Does this sound like a plan? Does it conflict with other chars? Do you have suggestions which class (especially of the PrC / high end) to base on?

Sounds like a Summoner to me. You might want to look up that class, there are also several other classes (like Alchemists) that have Archtypes that rework the class to be summoning focused. Alchemist also has several construct-ish archtypes.

[Krys]

Is there something like the eberron artificer or warforged builder? That would fit perfectly with someone responsible for the equipment, automatic defense units (golems) and "healer" for more artificial characters.

[Pockets]

Sounds like a Summoner to me. You might want to look up that class, there are also several other classes (like Alchemists) that have Archtypes that rework the class to be summoning focused. Alchemist also has several construct-ish archtypes.

I would suggest the Unchained Summoner unless you really like micromanaging your Eidelons.

Is there something like the eberron artificer or warforged builder? That would fit perfectly with someone responsible for the equipment, automatic defense units (golems) and "healer" for more artificial characters.

Pathfinder has the Android.

[Knarfy]

That might be possible, though my char wouldn't try to claim that post for her own. Class wise I'm thinking about a strong supporter. Maybe an artificer, and/or construct mancer? Granny was the care bear that kept the guild (and family) together in both worlds. And my char is overwhelmed by trying to deal with that shoes to walk in.

Does this sound like a plan? Does it conflict with other chars? Do you have suggestions which class (especially of the PrC / high end) to base on?

Oh I wouldn't expect the character to try and take the post. The extra prestige just amps up the whole "big shoes to fill' angle. :)

A support character could be fun, though I think they tend to be more complicated than other kinds since most are going to be spellcasters, and high level spellcasters can be a bit of a bear. (especially if they're druids, who can literally be a bear )

[Snake]

that is true...
Hrm.... decisions decisions..

But well yea it'd be an upgrade to tiefling. for sure.

[Drowdeviant]

That might be possible, though my char wouldn't try to claim that post for her own. Class wise I'm thinking about a strong supporter. Maybe an artificer, and/or construct mancer? Granny was the care bear that kept the guild (and family) together in both worlds. And my char is overwhelmed by trying to deal with that shoes to walk in.

Does this sound like a plan? Does it conflict with other chars? Do you have suggestions which class (especially of the PrC / high end) to base on?

Would she be looking for a mentor by chance Krys? My gal could always use a disciple to take under her wing...and having the former guild mistress's grand daughter as her loyal little pet would surely be too juicy of an opportunity for her to pass up.

Also people armies are basically screwed with both me and Knarfy's gal around, especially since my gal has an ability that staggers and inflicts massive bleed damage in an AOE as well as having another that can literally turn our foes to friends. Plus all those breath weapons (I'm making a cohort or two that's gonna have them).

[Snake]

And i just terrify them by BEING THERE given my fear aura :p and I absorb negative energy :3

[Krys]

Hmm, I might have to define my own experience a bit more.

The pathfinder char I played most is my half faerie dragon artificer which is now approaching lvl 7.

Other classes (summoner, bard, investigator, magical girl, vizier) I've looked into, but never played. But still, you might see a pattern here.

[Krys]

Would she be looking for a mentor by chance Krys? My gal could always use a disciple to take under her wing...and having the former guild mistress's grand daughter as her loyal little pet would surely be too juicy of an opportunity for her to pass up.

I'd have to look into that, will probably depend on personality. But basically yes, she would be looking for orientation.

Also people armies are basically screwed with both me and Knarfy's gal around, especially since my gal has an ability that staggers and inflicts massive bleed damage in an AOE as well as having another that can literally turn our foes to friends. Plus all those breath weapons (I'm making a cohort or two that's gonna have them).

Hmm, other suggestions then? As said, I'm very intrigued on the "supporter/smithy/enchanter" part. A face/merchant is great as well, but that would probably be almost impossible for her to pull off, as this would depend on contacts... which she would have, but no working knowledge on them thus might quickly loose.

[Knarfy]

Is there something like the eberron artificer or warforged builder? That would fit perfectly with someone responsible for the equipment, automatic defense units (golems) and "healer" for more artificial characters.

Actually, you might want to look at the arcanist: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/arcanist

It has the flexibility of the wizard during downtime, so you have all the potential utility and support, but it's comparatively simple when it comes to combat like the sorcerer. There's even a 'white mage' archetype that lets you cast cure spells if you want

[Krys]

https://www.myth-weavers.com/showthread.php?t=386893&page=3

This is a char I designed for another game, but never got to play. Might give you an idea what I like.

[Knarfy]

I'm not sure you set that sheet to public :)

[Krys]

PS: this is no application, it's an example of an old char concept (unfinished)

"Artificer 8"

artificer 8:
infusions (6/5/3) a few of them are even usefull
cantrips (5 very usefull lvl 0 spells)
artificer knowledge (working knowledge of all lvl 3 spells and psionics)
artisan bonus (+4 to UMD)
ingenuity (17/day)
rugged craftsman (can craft better outside the lab)
unravel (suppress magic)
item augmentation (charge storing: standard action lvl 3 spells)
retain essence (recycle magic and psionic items)
trapfinding (+4 to find and disable)

item creation feats: Brew Potion, Frugal Crafting, Scribe Scroll, Craft Wondrous Item, Craft Wand, Craft Homunculus, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Craft Construct, Forge Ring

"Magical Girl 3"

vigilante (magical child): 3
dual identity, Eirian at day, Lunaria Girl during the n... ok other times
seamless guise, +20 to be herself
social talent (2), double time, social grace
vigilante talent (1), inspired vigilante
unshakable, +3 vs intimidation
spellcasting (4/day)
transformation sequence, by the powers of ... erm Lunaria?
animal guide, lvl 7 improved familiar valet, yay
mundane a cute tabby cat, dual: agathion silvanshee

"Vizier 5"

Vizier 5
veilweaving: 4/day, Essence: 7, Capacity: 3
eldritch insight, recharge items
mystic attunement,
path of the crafter: +2 on all crafting/enchanting related checks, +1 CL or DC to allies magic items (30 ft)
transfer the essence, move enchantments as well as inscribe magical tattoo
chakra binds: hands and feet
improved essence capacity +1
veileshifting, reshape veil 1/day

"Basics"

Human (mostly) girl with a gnomish mentor
Str: 8 (-1)
Dex: 19(+4)
Con: 15(+2)
Int: 23(+6)
Wis: 12(+1)
Cha: 12(+1)

Int and Dex are increased to +1/+2 at lvl 4 and 8, and gain each +2 from dual talent, Int and Con get +2 from items

HP: d8 -> 59
BAB: +6/+1
Saves: +4/+6/+6

"Feats"

Shared Veil
Boon Companion
Extra Essence
Enhanced Capacity

"Magic circuit"

Eirians magic circuit looks like a plantlike, ever changing tree. Closer inspection though reveals the fractal nature of those patterns. Which is a bit weird, given her fairly technological background. Her enigma meanwhile fits perfectly, being a modern enigma of a rather frugal but nice style.

Lunaria Girls magic circuit on the other hand looks like a glowing keyhole on her back. Which is a bit weird given her rather dryadic background. Her enigma is looking like a key.

"Backgrounds"

Do It all Tinker 8: Crafts, Profession(Artisan), Knowledge(Technological), Disable Device
Artificer 8: Spellcraft, UMD, Knowledge(Arcana), Knowledge(Religion), Knowledge(Psionics), Profession(Artificer)
Merchant 8: Profession(Merchant), Appraise, Diplomacy, Sense Motive
Researcher 8: Perception, Knowledges(all), Linguistics
Dance of the Dryad 3: While Eirian was of a slight tomboyish clumsyness before the accident, this has changed a bit. And while Eirian still is integrating that new grace, Lunaria Girl has the slender beauty and agility of her dryadic heritage might suggest. Skills: Acrobatics, Climb, Perform,(Dance, Sing and Erotic Arts), Ride and Swim. Not applicable for raw power, but elegance and *cough* effect.

resulting skill levels:

crafts: +32 item(6), tools(2), path of crafter(2) and crafters fortune(5)
Spellcraft: +25 path of crafter(2)
UMD: +24 item(10), path of crafter(2)
mental: +23 int (6), item(6), class (3), background (8)
Disable Device: +17 dex(4), class(3), background(8), tools(2)
Perception: +12 (+16 for traps)
merchants: +11 cha(1), class(3), background(8)
Acrobatics: +10 dex(4), class(3), background(3)
Stealth: +4

"Fluff"

a young prodigy magitek researcher and crafter with a strong leaning towards biotech, life support, plants. The investigator represents the research part, if possible try to find a archetype that fits towards a geek girl / hack the digital and biological code approach

"Combat role"

very efficient force multiplier, easily en par with a dedicated buffer bard ... well except if some idiot runs straight into combat without given me time to do my job that is. Always the right trick up the sleave IF given some moments for preparation. Masterly use of technological opportunities. Away from that: duck 'n cover.
VERY short for now, need to add much more, as soon as I had some sleep. Preferably including any suggestions I might get. Already have some ideas on how she ended up a magical girl, a nice description of her room/workshop, some fluff abut her kitten, and ideas for the whole "magic-biotech-theme". Though the later need to be worked out much better.

"Description"

Eirian is a petite young woman, with very long blue-black hair, giving her an asian first impression if seen from afar. Though her lively and open european face with the impressive eyes, changing color from green to blue depending on light conditions, speaks a completely different language. Her very beautyful almost elvish features would surely earn her many admirers ... if she only stayed at one place for a longer time.
She has an open and friendly personality, once she gets to know someone. She is broad-minded, and warm hearted ... but there are very few who get to know here as much. Having traveled almost constantly for the last decade, and being a bit shy and careful towards strangers, she doesn't make friends as easily as could be expected given her basically friendly nature.

"Short Background"

Eirian is the only child of two rather successfull (mostly human) magictech bioengineers, students of the renowned Dr. Golang Krud, who also designed and improved her genemod. After the untimely death of her parents, he took in the young orphan. Thus she considers him kind of a grandfather, and followed in his and her parents footsteps, starting from a young age.

Even when her parents were alive, the young family had moved often throughout the HDC, being an integral part of Dr. Kruds research team. This only increased when, following her parents death, Eirian had to adopt Golangs nomadic lifestyle. As a result, Eirian didn‘t realy had something that could be called a „normal childhood“.

Growing up in a lab, with busy researchers and labtechs as her nannies, and interesting technomagical experiments and tools as her toys and companions she never lost her childlike curiosity. Always investigating, researching, tinkering, learning by herself, lead only partly by Golangs ecclectic (and ambitious) curriculum, she was able to lend a hand like a junior labtech at age 8. Things only got more interesting from there on.

Given her incredible intellect and rich talents, she could have easily gone for the flashy „wizardly“ research. But instead she did choose a much more grounded path. Specializing in the application of bio-magotechnical data science, for it doesn‘t matter what kind of code anything is written in. In the end, a mundane computer code is as good as DNA encrypted information, the formulaic description of a spell or the thought threads used in a linked operation. According to her, even the „old magic“ is just another pattern of encryption. To decrypt all of them, and develope a unified theory of data, a way to describe reality in all its rich interaction, is what she would love to be her magnum opus.

The latest change in Eirians live occured, when Dr. Krad was offered a tenured position at Lunarias university. It never occured to him, to even ask Eirian on her opinion. Thus a few weeks ago she got the lab memo, that she would move to the Moon, and be inscribed at the magotechnical institute. To finally formalize her already impressive education.
Of course, for most of her fellow students it came quite as a surprise to have someone around, that was several years their junior. In many cases that surprise didn‘t last long, mostly due to Eirian moving up to the next tier of courses after finishing the subjects in a matter of days.

As a result, Eirian hasn‘t managed yet to form many close bonds with her „peers“, still having more in common with those she has met in the last decade as „“Dr. Kruds prodigy daughter (adopted)“. Will she be able to form such bonds? Will she be able to finally step out of Golangs shadow? And will that life she leds be a „normal“ scientific life?“

"Planting the seed"

Slowly his heartbet returned to normal as he lay on his back. With a slight move of his head he turned to look at his fiancé. His marvelous, wonderfull and oooh so sexy love.
"You have been especially enthusiastic tonight Nymphadora." he teasingly whispered, knowing fully well how much she disliked her middle name. A name though, that ran in her family since ages untold. A name she had inherited from her grandmother. And as far as he knew, that name was kind of prophecy. After all rumors he had heard, granny Ny had been as much of an hearthrob in her youth as the lovely woman besides him.
"Uhmphhh." she pouted, not even wasting a breath from her still heaving bossom reminding him of her first name. But the mischieveous happy grin told him that there was more to it.
Raising out of the pillows, she bent forward, leaning on her ellbow, with the index finger of her other hand tracing whirly patterns on his skin.
"What name shall we give her?" she asked with sparkling eyes.
He starred back at her, in painfull disbelief. "Aria, you know, as much as I'd love to, that accident..."
But smiling she shook her head, grabbing the little amulett she had been "to busy" to remove before they started ....
"You are really unobservant for a scientist, you know?" she teased him. And when he looked at the smale acorn, made from some kind of amber, he could still see the aura of the magic, slowly fading while the item returned to its dormant state.
"Granny gave it to me, it's a family heirloom ... we'll have a daughter, love." she giggled.

"Equipment"

"sleeping room with small workshop/production lab   $21,000   none
($20,000 for the room, $1,000 for the lab)
dedicated wright   $2,100   none
travelers any tool   $250 none
Akashic catalyst  $8,000 none
ring of sustenance   $2,500   ring 1
headband of vast intelligence 1   $4,000   headband
belt of mighty constitution 1   $4,000   belt
sleeves of many garments   $100   wrists
UMD item +10 1/day (at lvl^2 *100/5)   $2,000   hands
intelligence check item (lvl^2 *500) 6   $18,000   head

"Iecks, I'm sooo innocent"

Based on Sanctuary Behaving like the cutest little innocent girl, she tries to stay out of the trouble. Who could harm such a lill cutie?

1/day, $1,440

"Sooo curious"

Based on Invisibility A simple way to get away from trouble (or from her gramps being mad at her).

1/day, $3,200

"Let's try to get this loose"

Based on Grease A crafter always needs to grease things.

1/day, $720

All the items below will only work for Lunaria Girl, as they require a rather... uhm specific mindset and "costume" both of which Eirian doesn't have:

"Wink"

Based on Early Judgment By giving a creature a cheeky seductive wink, you give it mental images of what funny things it could enjoy if it wasn't doing some evil deeds right now. The images do fit the creatures innermost desires, not necessarily it's picture of what they should like.
If your target is good-aligned, it must save or be fascinated by the sexy thoughts for 1d4 rounds. If your target is neutral-aligned, it must save or be confused by it's own strong reaction to them for 1d4 rounds. If your target is evil-aligned, it must save or be shaken by their craving for some "submission" for 1d4 rounds.

1/day, $2,880

"Oooh Shiny"

Based on Glitterdust Making a fascinated and cute "ooooh" face at your target, a stream of twinkly pixies shots forth at them.

1/day, $2,880

"Stay Away"

Based on Black Tentacles When showing your opponents your open palm, motioning them to stop, a field of rubbery green lianaes adorned with sweet smelling tiny flowers erupts around them.

1/day, $2,880

$84,950/3 = $28,317

full price
enigma   $100"

[Drowdeviant]

And i just terrify them by BEING THERE given my fear aura :p and I absorb negative energy :3

and with that fear effect I can track their asses down. Agonizing Prayer is literally OP since it can knock a ton of guys unconscious at once. xD

[Snake]

then I can go "hulk smash" and transform into a black dragon then strafe them with acid breath attacks ;3

[Knarfy]

Krys: The artificer is mostly just a weird spellcaster with some free item creation stuff, so you're going to be able to do a lot of the same stuff via any normal spellcasting class. really the biggest thing when it comes to crafting is going to be skill points and feats. Being able to cast arcane spells just adds an extra pile of cool stuff on top of that.

The arcanist only gets 2+int skills per level, but they're int based, so you're probably going to end up with a zillion skill points anyway, especially since we're using background skills. Also, the only craft skill you really need is Spellcraft anyway.