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Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2425 on: January 01, 2016, 02:11:22 PM »
It does seem like it :(

Offline Zakharra

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2426 on: January 02, 2016, 02:52:21 AM »
 Damn, might as well start calling them the Polish Nazi party. They are being just as blatant on their desire to control everything.

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2427 on: January 02, 2016, 11:31:20 AM »
Well, to be honest, calling them Nazis *is* going too far. It's not like they are being genocidal or something...

Still, it *has* been pointed out by various analyst that L&J, while being fiercely anti-Communist in their declarations, seems to be quite Sovietesque in their mentality.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2428 on: January 02, 2016, 03:23:56 PM »
The US is apparently a threat to the new Russian Security Strategy.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-names-united-states-among-threats-in-new-russian-security-strategy/ar-BBo86JE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

*shrug* meh, that's like saying the sky is blue and East will always be at odds with the West. Same shit, different day. :P

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2429 on: January 02, 2016, 08:19:43 PM »
Well, to be honest, calling them Nazis *is* going too far. It's not like they are being genocidal or something...

Still, it *has* been pointed out by various analyst that L&J, while being fiercely anti-Communist in their declarations, seems to be quite Sovietesque in their mentality.

The Nazis didn't start with genocide, remember. They started pretty much exactly like L&J appears to be starting.

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2430 on: January 03, 2016, 12:22:52 AM »
The Nazis didn't start with genocide, remember. They started pretty much exactly like L&J appears to be starting.

I do realize that. Still, I'd be careful with that particular comparison, as it is really, really heavy.

But I have no problem with calling L&J on being authoritarian. I mean, last evening I read some bits from one L&J MP on what her view of the public media is. The woman shamelessly admitted that yes, the public media should be politically-controlled - basically, they should be the government's platform and a tool of ruling the country. Because the society needs a channel providing "undistorted official information" from the government... Seriously, this is exactly the kind of stuff authoritarian politicians across history have been saying.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2431 on: January 03, 2016, 12:42:00 AM »
I do realize that. Still, I'd be careful with that particular comparison, as it is really, really heavy.

But I have no problem with calling L&J on being authoritarian. I mean, last evening I read some bits from one L&J MP on what her view of the public media is. The woman shamelessly admitted that yes, the public media should be politically-controlled - basically, they should be the government's platform and a tool of ruling the country. Because the society needs a channel providing "undistorted official information" from the government... Seriously, this is exactly the kind of stuff authoritarian politicians across history have been saying.

Very much agreed with this.  I do think that it's proper for people to be alarmed - not only in Poland, but on the world stage as well.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2432 on: January 03, 2016, 02:54:23 AM »
A bunch of militia types, apparently armed, just occupied the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

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The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 50 miles southeast of Burns for years.

The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers militia and local citizens both paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday.

The Bundy family that are mentioned are the same people at the centre of this controversy. The backstory to the Hammond's is somewhat interesting and if you're conspiracy minded there's a hint of some Federal skulduggery going on... but only a hint and only if you're conspiracy minded... and even if there is this seems a damn poor way to go about handling it.

Hopefully it all ends peacefully.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2433 on: January 03, 2016, 08:04:10 AM »
A bunch of militia types, apparently armed, just occupied the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

The Bundy family that are mentioned are the same people at the centre of this controversy. The backstory to the Hammond's is somewhat interesting and if you're conspiracy minded there's a hint of some Federal skulduggery going on... but only a hint and only if you're conspiracy minded... and even if there is this seems a damn poor way to go about handling it.

Hopefully it all ends peacefully.

Militia? More like Insurrectionists. They brought this upon themselves and now they need to face the consequences and punishments of their actions.

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Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2434 on: January 03, 2016, 10:59:19 AM »
Very much agreed with this.  I do think that it's proper for people to be alarmed - not only in Poland, but on the world stage as well.

Other opinions from the ruling camp regarding the media are alarming, too. One of their guys, one who might soon be involving in "fixing" the public media, has said that the new public media are going to be focused on Christian values. Another L&J MP, during the the media debate in the parliament, accused the public TV of "homosexual propaganda"... I think I can guess what these guys idea for a new model TV are like.

geeze I feel sometimes like I would be right at home among The Empire.

The Empire of Man? ;)

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2435 on: January 03, 2016, 11:00:54 AM »
Other opinions from the ruling camp regarding the media are alarming, too. One of their guys, one who might soon be involving in "fixing" the public media, has said that the new public media are going to be focused on Christian values. Another L&J MP, during the the media debate in the parliament, accused the public TV of "homosexual propaganda"... I think I can guess what these guys idea for a new model TV are like.

The Empire of Man? ;)

I'm guessing LB meant The Galactic Empire - most people would refer to the EoM as The Imperium (of Man) first.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2436 on: January 03, 2016, 11:06:10 AM »
I'm guessing LB meant The Galactic Empire - most people would refer to the EoM as The Imperium (of Man) first.

I know. Just teasing... ;)

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2437 on: January 03, 2016, 11:06:20 AM »
The Empire of Man? ;)


I'm guessing LB meant The Galactic Empire - most people would refer to the EoM as The Imperium (of Man) first.

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2438 on: January 03, 2016, 11:28:56 AM »
I'm guessing LB meant The Galactic Empire - most people would refer to the EoM as The Imperium (of Man) first.

  The Tau have an empire though don't they? And they accept human converts. (Under what conditions depends on how much grimdark the writers are trying to shoehorn in at the time.)

Offline TheGlyphstone

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2439 on: January 03, 2016, 11:43:48 AM »
  The Tau have an empire though don't they? And they accept human converts. (Under what conditions depends on how much grimdark the writers are trying to shoehorn in at the time.)

They have an empire, it's just not The Empire.

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2440 on: January 03, 2016, 11:45:21 AM »
Let's not derail this thread. If we want to discuss WH40K, there's a thread for it which needs some love :)

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2441 on: January 03, 2016, 02:03:09 PM »
Other opinions from the ruling camp regarding the media are alarming, too. One of their guys, one who might soon be involving in "fixing" the public media, has said that the new public media are going to be focused on Christian values. Another L&J MP, during the the media debate in the parliament, accused the public TV of "homosexual propaganda"... I think I can guess what these guys idea for a new model TV are like.



yay - hardline Christian control of the public media!  ::) *facepalms*

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Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2442 on: January 03, 2016, 02:13:28 PM »
Speaking of religion, one of the most influential archbishops of Polish Catholic Church gave an interview recently, where he says that he is "saddened" by the fact that the current opposition can't admit to having lost gracefully and that it doesn't support the good the new government is planning on doing... Basically, the archbishop supported the L&J narration of how there's nothing troubling happening and how the recent protests are all about the previous ruling party being angry on having to give up the government.

I think the interview kind of shows where the sympathies of the Polish Church are...  :-(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2443 on: January 03, 2016, 02:23:40 PM »
Speaking of religion, one of the most influential archbishops of Polish Catholic Church gave an interview recently, where he says that he is "saddened" by the fact that the current opposition can't admit to having lost gracefully and that it doesn't support the good the new government is planning on doing... Basically, the archbishop supported the L&J narration of how there's nothing troubling happening and how the recent protests are all about the previous ruling party being angry on having to give up the government.

I think the interview kind of shows where the sympathies of the Polish Church are...  :-(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2444 on: January 03, 2016, 02:56:20 PM »
You really should launch a thread about this crisis in Poland, Beorning, or maybe somebody purple should branch this off into its own thread. There are several people here who are really interested.  :-)

Offline BeorningTopic starter

Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2445 on: January 03, 2016, 03:16:01 PM »
I'm not really sure I have the mental strength to discuss this matter regularly... I've actually stopped watching the news, as I can't stomach what's happening.

Some days, I feel like huddling in the corner and ignoring all of this. These guys are ruining my country :(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2446 on: January 03, 2016, 04:38:16 PM »
I'm not really sure I have the mental strength to discuss this matter regularly... I've actually stopped watching the news, as I can't stomach what's happening.

Some days, I feel like huddling in the corner and ignoring all of this. These guys are ruining my country :(

I understand this feeling.  :(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2447 on: January 03, 2016, 05:02:52 PM »
Yes, I understand too. Talking about dreary and disruptive politics in one's own country - and explaining some of it to strangers - is sometimes no fun at all.  :-(


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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2448 on: January 06, 2016, 12:11:45 AM »
North Korea claims to have made a successful test of a small scale hydrogen bomb, alarming just about everyone else, even their allies in China. An earth tremor measuring 5.1 Richter was registered as coming from near a known testing site by U.S. geological stations.  :-(

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Re: What's in the news?
« Reply #2449 on: January 06, 2016, 11:28:43 AM »
North Korea claims to have made a successful test of a small scale hydrogen bomb, alarming just about everyone else, even their allies in China. An earth tremor measuring 5.1 Richter was registered as coming from near a known testing site by U.S. geological stations.  :-(

 Best N. Korea negotiation tactic: 'we just detonated a hydrogen bomb, give us stuff or we will threaten nuclear war on South Korea, Japan, the United States and Britain, and Russia.'

 Everyone else: 'North Korea, sit down, the adults are talking.'

 N. Korea gores and sulks, throwing a minor tantrum occasionally.

 More seriously, they set off something, but what I am hearing is the governments don't think it was an H-bomb. It's likely another nuke, just not necessarily the big one the Norks are saying it is.