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Offline Beorning

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #75 on: March 13, 2013, 01:18:18 PM »
So... we have white smoke in Vatican.

I wonder who the cardinals chose...

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #76 on: March 13, 2013, 01:19:13 PM »
Happy Pick-a-Pope Day!

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #77 on: March 13, 2013, 01:25:39 PM »
Wondering too. The BBC suggested Angelo Scola, archbishop of Milan who is supposed tp have gone into the conclave with a large following.  Looked him up at WP and according to a guy who had reviewed a book of his:

Quote from: Wikipedia
In a review of Cardinal Scola's 1996 book, The Nuptial Mystery, Luke Timothy Johnson writes in Commonweal magazine about Scola's "condemnation not only of abortion and of genetic engineering, and of birth control, but also of feminism, of homosexuality, and of cultural traits Scola associates with feminism and homosexuality, namely individualism, libertinism, relativism, narcissism, and even nihilism.

According to Johnson, "the cardinalís logic, in fact, seems to be that feminism is responsible for homosexuality, because the more women act like men, the more men are likely to want to have sex with other men.

Sounds uplifting. He's the man. :(

Offline Beorning

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #78 on: March 13, 2013, 01:27:54 PM »
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According to Johnson, "the cardinalís logic, in fact, seems to be that feminism is responsible for homosexuality, because the more women act like men, the more men are likely to want to have sex with other men".

Oh my...  :o

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #79 on: March 13, 2013, 01:30:03 PM »
... I'm sure I could come up with something crude, irreverent and funny about that.  Unfortunately, the little Oni had early dismissal today, so I have to be careful.

Like putting it in a spoiler
So, being liberated means more hot yaoi?  Score!

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #80 on: March 13, 2013, 01:31:25 PM »
Must have been many feminists around in the days of Oscar Wilde, then - by the way I seem to recall he edited a ladies' magazine for some years - and quite enjoyed it.

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #81 on: March 13, 2013, 02:14:46 PM »
Holy shit.

No pun intended.  But holy shit.  Did not see that coming.

Offline Beorning

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #82 on: March 13, 2013, 02:15:39 PM »
Who's the new pope? He is not Scola. What do we know about him?

Offline Avis habilis

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #83 on: March 13, 2013, 02:17:18 PM »
Bergoglio the Argentinian. Now Pope Francis (the first?)

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #84 on: March 13, 2013, 02:21:40 PM »

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #85 on: March 13, 2013, 02:23:34 PM »
I hope he's nothing like Jorge of Burgos - the main villain of The Name of the Rose:P

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #86 on: March 13, 2013, 02:33:16 PM »
Absolutely thrilled that they picked a non-European Pope. Don't get me wrong...love me some Europeans...but I am very hopeful that this means that the Catholic Church is becoming more progressive as time goes on.

Offline Iniquitous

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« Reply #87 on: March 13, 2013, 02:50:13 PM »
He's conservative - I dont expect much change from him.

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #88 on: March 13, 2013, 02:52:47 PM »
He may be a conservative but he is a man of the people, humble and gentle for all he is a Jesuit.  At least that is the aspects of his personality that people are talking about.

Offline RubySlippers

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #89 on: March 13, 2013, 03:34:35 PM »
My guess he will toss out his modest way to live and get sucked into the Papal lifestyle in no time. He should stay in modest housing outside the city and take mass transit living like he did as a cardinal that would make me give him some respect. More if he focused the wealth of the faith fully into the care of the needy and the poor and used his office to promote good causes.

Offline Rhapsody

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #90 on: March 13, 2013, 05:31:43 PM »
Aaaaand we're off to a great start.

http://lezgetreal.com/2013/03/francis-i-elected-pope-first-jesuit-first-latin-american/

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« Last Edit: March 13, 2013, 05:33:52 PM by Rhapsody »

Offline Pumpkin Seeds

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #91 on: March 13, 2013, 05:34:27 PM »
Oh boy..This'll be fun.

Offline TheGlyphstone

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #92 on: March 13, 2013, 05:50:27 PM »
Why are we acting surprised? Was anyone really expecting a liberal, abortion-supporting, gay-rights-backing Pope? Absolutely nothing has changed here.

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #93 on: March 13, 2013, 05:51:19 PM »
Yeah, its not exactly strange that the Catholic Church has elected someone to lead it who supports the official viewpoint of the Catholic Church.

Offline ShadowFox89

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #94 on: March 13, 2013, 05:57:08 PM »
 There was the expectation that they would elect someone who could attract the younger generation.

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #95 on: March 13, 2013, 06:01:10 PM »
There was the expectation that they would elect someone who could attract the younger generation.

Well, he's 76. Honestly some people grow more daring and radical the older they get, but I doubt if this one is going to take that route.

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Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #96 on: March 13, 2013, 06:08:00 PM »
During the last Papal conclave, it was pointed out by some outlets that the conservatism of the Papacy has a great deal to do with the fact that the politics of the office are global, and that the slate of concerns common in the progressive Western world is of little interest to the largest and fastest-growing Catholic populations in the developing world. So I'm not shocked when they fail to elect someone who gives a thumbs-up to gay marriage or abortion.

Still, that doesn't explain why they can't find someone with a more aggressive stance on ending the abuse scandal -- I find it hard to believe that it's only harming the Church's image in the West -- or someone capable of conceding that the condom might be handy from the POV of stopping the spread of AIDS.

Offline Pumpkin Seeds

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #97 on: March 13, 2013, 06:51:37 PM »
Was expecting someone that might be softer on the touch.  Jesuits can be though as they do like to argue logic, so at least if he disagrees with you he'll try and make a valid point of it.  Though from reading his views already, not sure we're going to see a lot of that this time around.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #98 on: March 14, 2013, 06:05:22 AM »
Why are we acting surprised? Was anyone really expecting a liberal, abortion-supporting, gay-rights-backing Pope? Absolutely nothing has changed here.
You'd have to have something like a 3rd of the Cardinals store out and die to get the conservative element out. All at once. Honestly, I don't see anyone in the Church structure at that level changing in the next 20 years.

Offline TaintedAndDelish

Re: The Pope gives his resignation.
« Reply #99 on: March 14, 2013, 06:07:48 AM »
I've been trying very hard not to slip in a comment about the fancy dresses and hats and red shoes that popes and cardinals dress up in. I'll just keep those comments to myself.    8-)