I don't remember the members of elliquiy voting or even being asked if we wanted to take on BM, or any of the others onto the new server that Elliquiy bought. I just remember all of the sudden about 6 months after we bought the latest and greatest thing, it wasn't good enough anymore and we lost the SB because of "system limitations", and it's gone down hill ever since.
Blue Moon in most circumstances never impacted Elliquiy. It's doing so now in a way that removing it would change little - and only for a very short time.
The shoutbox remains on Blue Moon, but is absent from Elliquiy, because while Blue Moon's PM schema is fucking moronic, (Elliquiy's is somewhat better, just 'quite stupid'), its integration mechanic is far more lightweight than Elliquiy's. SMF loads the entire kitchen sink on integration, and the developers declared that this was necessary for some reason. Similar to my comments about MyBB's PM schema - though unlike SMF where I made a great deal of progress, did not get anywhere with MyBB. Ah well. The shoutbox on Blue Moon is having zero impact, despite it being responsible for more php and database requests than everything else on the server combined.
That's how a well-oiled system works.
In any case, the long loading times are because it needs to read data from the disk. Current host wants $2,700/month to max out this server's RAM, which would give us two years or so, if we don't grow. Fuck that noise. Buying our own server for $8k, could get a server to max out at half a terabyte of RAM (though maybe only 32 or 64 gigs to start) - for a flat cost, and maybe another $20/month for another half-amp. We'd own the server then, though, which would greatly expand our options when it came to getting a new server for any reason. This makes this a far more 'permanent' solution than our current situation, though obviously not indefinite. Longer than the three years we're trying to eek out of this thing, at least.
A 16-core system could handle the shoutbox on E for a short time, but that would unfortunately still be temporary. The only permanent fix to many woes is new software. It would take a crazy amount of money to fix that. (Edit: As in, make the shoutbox work on SMF nigh-indefinitely).
Um, it's not like the old server is still there for Veks' other sites to be 'left behind' on. Unless you were suggesting that Veks pay twice as much in server fees?
A new server would return us to the status quo we had two years ago, where sites never impacted each other. Elliquiy would regularly crash under the shoutbox load while Blue Moon ran fine. Same was true during the DDoS.
Plus, the server I'm looking at has eight drive bays. Can give Elliquiy its own SSD, even.
I realize it rustles people, but in case it isn't clearBlue Moon is not the source of our troubles. The source of our troubles is that stuff occasionally gets loaded from disk, rather than sitting in RAM, because we don't have enough and our host wants to charge 1/3rd the price of a top of the line 1u server every fucking month to buy us a rather short amount of time. Blue Moon -exacerbates- this problem, but this isn't something that's going to come back any time soon on a new machine, occasional fundraisers for RAM at reasonable prices (a few $k for a half terabyte) excepted.
Elliquiy loses nothing from hosting Blue Moon in most situations, and gains a great deal. I don't want or like bad feelings between the two sites. They serve different niches, and give each other reinforcement.