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Online Inerrant LustTopic starter

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #150 on: August 03, 2011, 03:13:47 PM »
Organization level, I think, isn't as relevant in this campaign as it would be, if, say, you started your own group. Since you are more or less using the Republic's resources (to include manpower), the amount of faith they have in you will decide your standing within the organization.

And it is unlikely that anyone will continue to 'officially' advance into Knighthood without the Council's blessings. Merryn would teach them all she knows and they could take the appropriate class levels if they so wish, but it would be entirely unofficial.

Online TheGlyphstone

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #151 on: August 03, 2011, 03:21:47 PM »
So when do we start?

Offline CarnivalOfTheGoat

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #152 on: August 03, 2011, 04:01:35 PM »
I meant the 12 HP going from Jedi to Noble.  Jedi to Scoundrel did the same thing to me.

I'm kind of of the opinion that if 1/5 or 1/6 of the character's health is making a significant difference, it's a near-death experience anyway and needs to be roleplayed as such. Again, that's a thing I take into account as I write, not a thing I build a character toward, if that makes sense.

As for organization rating/level requirements, I tell you because you are a writer.  The first may not be noticed.  Hell, IL may not even bother with it and just have all army coordination flow through her.  I did think that watching her peers become Jedi Knights before her would be frustrating for her though.

Ah, Org Rating is for the whole 'rank' thing, right? I hadn't looked at that since it hadn't been mentioned and IL had just assigned req and WO-1 to everybody. And yes, she almost certainly will be a bit frustrated.

The way I see it, she spent more than half of her apprentice years being THE apprentice, meeting some quite notable Jedi, and getting sent off on a testing mission that her Master had to point out to her was actually of quite significant nature. So she likely will suffer a little bit from lack of spotlight, and certainly she's a bit more proud and a bit more reflexively inclined towards aggression than most Jedi. Will that lead her towards the Dark Side? It's certainly a possibility.

On the other hand, mass warfare and the responsibilities of command have been known to have quite humbling effects on some people. We'll see how the situation plays out.

Offline kckolbe

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #153 on: August 03, 2011, 04:11:44 PM »
It sounds like org rating isn't really being used, so that doesn't matter.  Also, being deemed a Jedi Knight and taking the Jedi Knight class are unrelated, so I was wrong on both counts and she may not have anything new to be frustrated about.  Did you get my last PM by the way?

Online Inerrant LustTopic starter

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #154 on: August 03, 2011, 04:18:37 PM »
Hopefully we'll start this weekend. For starters, Here's what I have in mind;

Corellia, 3962 BBY
The party has recently been asked by the Republic to attach themselves to the newly formed 9th Jedi Operations Platoon
Subordinate to the 12th Attack Battalion, 77th Assault Brigade, 11th Metellos Corps, 4th Sector Army, 2nd Systems Army

It composes about thirty veterans of a few battles, most notably the Battle of Ithor. Nearly a third of them are 'sole survivor' types taken from units that sustained such heavy casualties that more or less meant the disbandment of their individual units. The group as a whole has some distinction to their name. The Republic has asked the Jedi and the Platoon to get used to one another before they are called up for an unspecified offensive.

Offline CarnivalOfTheGoat

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #155 on: August 03, 2011, 04:24:49 PM »
It sounds like org rating isn't really being used, so that doesn't matter.  Also, being deemed a Jedi Knight and taking the Jedi Knight class are unrelated, so I was wrong on both counts and she may not have anything new to be frustrated about.  Did you get my last PM by the way?

Just responded to it!

The group as a whole has some distinction to their name.

I take it by this you mean the grouping of troops? Rather than Merryn's team?

The Republic has asked the Jedi and the Platoon to get used to one another before they are called up for an unspecified offensive.

How long have Merryn's team had to get used to one another prior to game-start?

Online Inerrant LustTopic starter

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #156 on: August 03, 2011, 04:34:31 PM »
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I take it by this you mean the grouping of troops? Rather than Merryn's team?

Yes. They're basically a cut above your usual republic draftee.

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How long have Merryn's team had to get used to one another prior to game-start?

I haven't decided... Obviously, her padawans will have known her for about 10 years. As for the others like Shaala and Davith... that really depends, and you can decide freely if you would like. Merryn could have known Jaro Bek and Davith merely as fellow members of the Order, perhaps going on a mission together. Likewise with Kirav and Shaala. Maybe they're facebook friends.  :P

Or, if you would prefer, this would be their first time meeting. A rough estimate, Merryn and her padawans have been officially part of the Revanchist movement for a few months, so they could have met there.

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Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #157 on: August 04, 2011, 06:58:29 AM »
That means that Muse has one too many feats, and that if I multi-class I won't have proficiency with a lightsaber, which I am pretty much okay with, seeing as how I had no plans to use it.

KC, my Weapon Proficiency Pistoals and Armor Proficiency Light are derived from the feat for Jedi training. 

It never occured to me that it would be kosher in this game to take soldier at level 1. 

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« Reply #158 on: August 04, 2011, 07:29:57 AM »
You know, KC, I actualy like htat idea.  It could fit her history, and the REvenchrist feat isn't necessary this way... 

*waves*  Good morning all. 

I.L.  Did you decide to give anyone re-rolls? 

Carni, any advise on Codru-Ji star fleet? 

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Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #159 on: August 04, 2011, 07:37:30 AM »
   There was a great deal of reluctance to compromise our space, but we quickly confirmed that the threat was real and expanded our own bases to establish Republic vessels passing through.  We even permitted Jedi to blood test young people who had emerged from Chrystasis to see if they could learn to use the force. 
   I was screaming above cultivated fields on a swoop that no one ever taught me to pilot, laughing for joy when the results of my test came back.  For the first time in my life, I challenged my parents when they did not permit me to go to the Jedi academy, but their wills were as strong as our love, so I backed down and joined our own nations star fleet instead, going through marine training but proving most skilled as a fighter pilot. 
Some months into the campaign, I flew low after a mandalorian battle droid going for a crucial land bound target.  I took it down, but my ship was badly damaged in the process.  With Mandalorian forces all over the planet, I feared for my life and sanity.  Knowign I couldn’t get back into orbit, I directed myself into the deep wilderness.  My fighter crashed through three tress before I blacked out. 
When I woke, I was amazed to be alive, and more amazed to not find myself in a Mandalorian retraining center.  Rather, a Twi’lek woman’s hand was pressed over her heart, and I could sense somehow that she’d taken my pain onto herself to save my life.  That was how I met the Jedi Knight Merryn.  She has had my love, loyalty, and devotion ever since that day. 

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How are the troops built?  Level something non-heroics? 
« Last Edit: August 04, 2011, 07:42:53 AM by Muse »

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Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #160 on: August 04, 2011, 08:48:44 AM »
I gotcha Muse.  But if you go without lightsaber proficiency, what will you be good at?  If I remember correctly, your character wasn't as mage-y.  I guess you could use blaster rifles (which no one else in the group can use).  Also, it would be kinda funny/fitting that both of Merryn's apprentices have not mastered the lightsaber.

Lightsabers can't be bought with tech specialist upgrades btw.  As for our troops, IL gave us each two squads of 3 troopers.  Each trooper is going to be a little stronger than the trooper from pg 175 of the KotOR Campaign Guide, but not as strong as the elites, so somewhere between nonheroic level 3 and 7. 

How long ago did your character enter Jedi training with Merryn?  It sounds like our characters are the only two to train with Merryn from the beginning.  My character started nine years ago, but slacked off a lot so he could spend time tinkering.  Even though I took scoundrel at first level, my IC plan was that he started with Jedi and diverted before completing it.

Online TheGlyphstone

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #161 on: August 04, 2011, 09:07:21 AM »
Wait, 2 squads of 3? I thought it was 2 squads of 6, 12 goons total?

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Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #162 on: August 04, 2011, 09:46:49 AM »
Nope, 3 each, 6 per person.  Easy to see where the misunderstanding is from.  I guess congrats on all the extra money you now have.

Online TheGlyphstone

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #163 on: August 04, 2011, 09:58:59 AM »
I think you mean 'extra explosives'. :D

Online Inerrant LustTopic starter

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #164 on: August 04, 2011, 02:58:33 PM »
Hrmmm. And to think I made Merryn more martially oriented. :P

Actually, all the females in this group are comparitively more up-close-and-personal and will leave the men behind the lines. XD

The troops are actually squads, for my sanity. Consider them mini-swarms, as they operate similiarly with each representing 3 troops.

Offline CarnivalOfTheGoat

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #165 on: August 05, 2011, 08:13:45 AM »
Actually, all the females in this group are comparitively more up-close-and-personal and will leave the men behind the lines. XD

Hope one of you gents put points into 'Get in the kitchen and make me a sammich!'  >:)

Shaala clearly needs a sammich.

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Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #166 on: August 05, 2011, 02:03:49 PM »
Ha!  Love it Carni!  How bout I make a droid, and the droid makes a sammich?  I've been thinking about Ced a lot, and I have trouble seeing him as a lightsaber-wielding type.  As awesome as lightsabers are, they just aren't him.  I may end up not ever making him proficient in them, which means no Jedi Knight class for him.  I could have him go Force Adept or Officer or Gunslinger, or just keep bouncing around the base classes and mix in some soldier levels.  Definitely a tough decision.

Offline kckolbe

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #167 on: August 06, 2011, 09:15:26 AM »
Well, after talking to IL I decided to drop the range idea and just go lightsaber like everyone else.  He already has his tinkering and lack of armor to make him special.  So he is decent in combat now, able to handle sharing the front line with the rest of you guys.  He is also a damn fine sneak and pretty good with explosives.

Online Inerrant LustTopic starter

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #168 on: August 06, 2011, 06:12:12 PM »
Okay. Everyone more or less ready?

I tend to start a system RP off slowly, and generally allow any last-minute changes to character sheets up until they start rolling in earnest. Not sure when that'll be.... particularly because I'm still juggling ideas around with regards to Merryn, both personality and mechanics. ::)

Also torn between making Force Points a daily thing instead of a per level thing, as described in the Jedi Academy book.

1/day for levels 1-5th
2/day for 6-10th, ect. ect.

Force Boon adds another 1 to that.

...Suppose this ought to be moved to the OOC thread, eh?

We have... Merryn, Shaala, Ced, Davith, and Raiko.

Offline kckolbe

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #169 on: August 06, 2011, 06:28:36 PM »
GS, would it be possible for Ced to use one of your normal lightsabers for a bit?  I'm trying to keep us from having 20 lightsabers once we all make our own, and Davith can't use that many yet anyways.

EDIT:  The daily force points works for me.

Online TheGlyphstone

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #170 on: August 06, 2011, 06:30:24 PM »
He might loan you his master's friend's saber, I guess - the other two are the ones with the most emotional attachment to them.

Offline kckolbe

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #171 on: August 06, 2011, 06:36:13 PM »
Sweet, that works.  In a couple of levels Ced will be able to make his own.

Online Inerrant LustTopic starter

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #172 on: August 06, 2011, 06:52:21 PM »
Another thought I've been throwing around;

Making the Severing Strike Talent of the Jedi Knight class a function of lightsabers themselves rather than of the Knight class... But in order to exert that sort of control over your attack, you would need to roll a Use the Force check against the full damage you've dealt + ...10?

For instance, Merryn rolls two 4s for the 2d8+8 damage of her lightsaber. Thus she'd need to roll a 26 or higher to avoid fatally wounding the opponent. Obviously, using things like Dark Rage or Battle strike make mercy difficult.

In most situations, it would not be a dark side transgression to outright kill an enemy ...The exceptions would be someone who is mistaken or misinformed about fighting you, or someone who could be redeemed, or if the action is done out of anger or wrath instead of practicality. Mandalorians generally don't count for either of the first two options.

For one, I think this better reflects the setting and lightsabers in general. And it also adds more validity to the Masters' complaint that Merryn did not exercise restraint in fighting Val'taros when she could have. Also... having more options in combat is always a good thing, and I think it adds more RP opportunities. :D

Online TheGlyphstone

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #173 on: August 06, 2011, 07:14:08 PM »
Wait, so Severing Strike becomes involuntary? That could be good, or very bad.

Though I'd find a different way to scale the difficulty, otherwise a Padawan and a Jedi Master have an equal chance to avoid limbcapitating someone (1/2 heroic level added to skill checks and damage), assuming all other factors equal. And if they spend any talents or feats on improving lightsaber damage, they get worse at sparing their enemies.

Offline kckolbe

Re: Gauging Interest - Star Wars Saga?
« Reply #174 on: August 06, 2011, 07:24:36 PM »
I think for it to have a chance at severing, your damage would have to exceed their damage threshold, or maybe it's something that happens on lightsaber crits.