Looking for DM & Group for Pathfinder 1e High Level game

[mjrbatou]

What do you mean by "Backup character?" I'm toying with leadership, I just wanna know what I'd be getting myself into xD I don't mind whether I control the hypothetical cohort or not, I just wanna make sure I'm understanding you correctly. Do you mean "A character I can play if my primary character bites it?"

As far as the backstory, that makes sense of course. Anything that adds something to the game would need to be approved. Would you be open to - closer to the start of the game, when we're all drafting our character sheets and whatnot - a more at-length conversation about the specifics of my character's backstory? So, things it could add, lines you don't want crossed, where in the world it makes the most sense for her to be from, etc etc? ^_^ I don't wanna step on any toes, after all, and I don't want it to end up as "Main Character syndrome." xD

Ah, sorry, rough night after work.  The 'backup' is so you'd have a character to play should your primary character die or otherwise be incapacitated for long periods.

Talking over backstory elements is fun and often helps me create more story for the setting, so I'm all for that.

[Vergil Tanner]

Ok, so...if the Cohort is intended as a "Support Character," as it were, then they get the "Standard Array" of a 15pb, and are controlled by you, the GM. If they're intended as a "backup" character in case the main character dies, they would be controlled by the PC and given the "Heroic Array?" Am I understanding that correctly?

Awesommmmeeee~ I'm thinking Ifrit for the race of my character. Female Ifrit Overwhelming Soul Kineticist, using the Fire and Air elements. Probably a single level dip into Monk Unchained. Exiled royal, probably after a family member or rival ousted her and tried to moider her. Are there any places in your world as it currently stands that would fit that general-thrust backstory, or could be altered to fit? ^_^

[indarkestknight]

Regarding summoners: are both types fair game, or do you have a strong preference for chained or unchained summoners?

[mjrbatou]

Ok, so...if the Cohort is intended as a "Support Character," as it were, then they get the "Standard Array" of a 15pb, and are controlled by you, the GM. If they're intended as a "backup" character in case the main character dies, they would be controlled by the PC and given the "Heroic Array?" Am I understanding that correctly?

Awesommmmeeee~ I'm thinking Ifrit for the race of my character. Female Ifrit Overwhelming Soul Kineticist, using the Fire and Air elements. Probably a single level dip into Monk Unchained. Exiled royal, probably after a family member or rival ousted her and tried to moider her. Are there any places in your world as it currently stands that would fit that general-thrust backstory, or could be altered to fit? ^_^

A supporting cohort, GM created and controlled with player input, is loyal to the player and uses the standard heroic array (based on a 15 point buy).  This is how the Recruits feat will be handled since it will give the player 6 cohorts to pick from at their current level.

A backup cohort (created with 20 point buy), player and GM created, player controlled, always stays with the player character allowing them to continue being active even if one dies.

The first place I can think of is Cheliax, but that's more name recognition than an actual suggestion.  Any small city or larger with lawful or evil alignment could be your exile's home.  Whatever they were framed for (exile) or the reason for the attempted murder (evil) would depend on the chosen city (I'd need to read through the gazetteer again for better suggestions).

Regarding summoners: are both types fair game, or do you have a strong preference for chained or unchained summoners?

I have not encountered a summoner in use before, the biggest difference I can tell between the two is how Eidolons are created...I kinda want to see how one plays so either is ok to use.

[pdragon]

Without too many spoilers, do you have a general idea of the kind of enemies we're more likely to face? Will it be mostly humanoids, monsters, etc.?

[Zaer Darkwail]

Sir Darian Darklance

Sir Darian Darklance, is enigmatic figure in Shadowspire. His past is known to extend that he was born into a city far off country where his mother was a prostitute who sold the child to a slaver. The slaver then traveled off farther lands and in there, an elf bought the child from a slaver. The reason for elf buying a child was merely a test, a philosophical theory put into practice. He wanted to raise a human, an adaptive and quickly growing race, in a way where said human holds no prejudice against neither good nor evil nor law or chaos. Be guided by perfect zen-like altruism to all with the harmony of the balance of cosmos and society as a whole with a zealous manner.

The elf was an elderly master in the way of war and more so with martial arts. A monk who had studied many styles and now sought only enlightenment and testing philosophical theories. He raised Darian, guided his moral development, and provided wisdom and guidance for many years. Albeit Darian did not become wise as his mentor, but he was somewhat successfully integrated what the elf master sought to teach; the perfect altruism and balance in morals not led by prejudice or extreme ideals. Once his mentorship was over, he traveled the world and studied more the mysterious martial arts and his innate psychic potential. Eventually coming across the curious philosophy of the dark side of the moon; joining an assassin guild to learn the arts of the umbral blade and learn techniques and tricks assassins used to slay their targets. But he was not driven by malice, greed or contract, or any grand goal in killing people. He continued work until he got a contract to slay a mother and child, which he refused and the assassin guild then targeted him for a kill. But he had been hiding most of his mysterious talents and caught the guild off guard, slaying the higher hierarchy effortlessly and spared the rest of the guild once making clear he desired no further violence nor want to be hunted down.

But not want provoke them, he changed cities and arrived at Shadowspire, where he opened a dojo where he accepted students to embrace perfect altruism with no prejudice to race, ethnicity, or what morals other has. But same time not to cling to altruism to the point it prevents acting violently when needed for survival or protecting others. He has gained few students, albeit his ways are hard to embrace philosophically speaking. But so far his best student at the moment is a female tiefling cleric (angelfire apostle) who embraces neutrality, altruism but yet is willing to combat evil creatures who are causing harm. But not harm evil if it's doing nothing and be ready to heal even evil creatures when they are assaulted unjustified and turn her offensive arts against the tyranny of the good.

In city the council soon became aware of his prowess in battle after one intense incident with unleashed demons from a hidden seal, so he was turned into one city's operatives to deal with tougher problems which is the role which he has accepted gladly. The city council gave him the title of Knight of the Shadow and thus right called as 'sir'. Albeit he himself cares not much for formalities.

Dojo of Twilight Road

Type: Monastery/Dojo (educational institution)
Size: Medium Business (rank 11 + MW) - 13,750gp
Buildings: Living quarters, kitchen, dinning hall, library, study rooms, lecture halls, practice/training area, infirmary, meditation garden, storage
Employees:  7-9 employees
   3 Teachers/Educators
   1 Cook
   1 Healer/Nurse
   2-4 variable additional assistants depending how busy Darian is
      -Valora the Lightspoken (tiefling female cleric/angelfire apostle archetype, recruit)
      -Dementher the seer (tiefling male blind oracle of Heaven mystery, recruit)
      -Bailen Steel the iron warden (male half-orc warder/zweihander sentinel, recruit)
      -Thasius the scribe (human male figther/myrmidon+lorewarden, recruit)
      -Jandis Leafshade the groundskeeper (half-elf ranger/ambush hunter, recruit)
      -Ardar Blade the crafter/combat instructor (human soulknife/war soul, recruit)
Skill Check:  (1d20 + 11 skill + 2 MW tools - 7-9 labor factor) x 100 profit factor

Description: The dojo of the twilight road is built into a cliff face, facing towards the city and connected by long stairs which lead into the city proper itself. The stairs have a sort of special property, an optical illusion, where if you try to use the stairs during the day or under the moonlight, the stairs are treacherous to walk upon (causing you to trip or stumble) if you try to look where your stepping. While in twilight hours between sunrise and sundown or while blind, stairs are entirely normal to walk on.

Once you reach the top of the 9,999 steps, the temple entrance is humble looking with pillars to the main antechamber and through it lead to the main circular chamber with several passages, all of which thanks to optical illusion and clever passage planning, makes you circle around the chamber (enter one passage and exit from another enter same chamber and usually there is an automated mechanism active which lowers down false wall cover entrance to chamber). There is writing on a circular plate which reads; 'bow and be judged by wisdom'. If the person steps on the plate and kneels, a pressured plate then lowers the person with elevator sort fashion to the true antechamber where you find passages to various aspects of the temple grounds.

Naturally if expecting visitors the plate is already lowered and there are wooden stairs leading down. In the dojo there are amenities all needed to live inside the temple, only what is needed are food supplies for the kitchen which are regularly filled. Temple otherwise in business-wise functions as a place of study and has large and diverse library covering various lores and there are lecture classes and also study rooms. Room and board can be rented which includes free meals to students and also needing separately pay for lecture classes or access to the library itself. Also, there are full-time students who pay nothing but are obligated to do work for the temple while staying and studying there. Temple teaching psionics, divine magic, and martial arts. Also, give good theories and basis for arcane studies albeit teachers wise none are arcane casters. The dojo philosophy is to embrace both inner light and darkness, achieve a balance of both and learn to practice what's called pure altruism; altruism not motivated by reward, feeling good or because believing is the right thing to do. But perform it as selfless a manner as possible and towards anyone who has not disturbed the balance in local community.

[Blinkin]

I'm sorry, but I may have to withdraw from the game. The character isn't coming together like it should and I'm struggling to rescue the concept, but if I can't do it, no character, no play.

[Callie Del Noire]

One idea I had was a higher level version on my prison pc.. 50 years to an elf is nothing.

[Blinkin]

Ok, I think that I might be able to salvage the character, but I have a question or two before I think too much about this.

how would a man servant be classified? I'm thinking more of a vally; someone to take care of the day to day, mundane things. Not a cohort or torch barrier, just for some fun with a long suffering servant, "My lord, it will be horribly difficult to get this blood stain out, it's velvet! Can't you go one day without ruining a good coat, my lord?"

And, would anyone know how to create a vordu, or traveling gypsy type wagon? Again, it's more flavor than anything.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Gypsy wagon I would likely go with picking wondrous items and stacking them on the wagon. Anything related to steed applies to the wagon (so long it does not enhance biological function unless somehow transfer onto horses pulling the said wagon). Alternatively apply custom magic item making rules from 3.5 somehow. If me, I would just use stronghold builder's guide and ignore any factors about the distance to cities and such in building cost and you got just single room/space work with.

[Vergil Tanner]

A supporting cohort, GM created and controlled with player input, is loyal to the player and uses the standard heroic array (based on a 15 point buy).  This is how the Recruits feat will be handled since it will give the player 6 cohorts to pick from at their current level.

A backup cohort (created with 20 point buy), player and GM created, player controlled, always stays with the player character allowing them to continue being active even if one dies.

The first place I can think of is Cheliax, but that's more name recognition than an actual suggestion.  Any small city or larger with lawful or evil alignment could be your exile's home.  Whatever they were framed for (exile) or the reason for the attempted murder (evil) would depend on the chosen city (I'd need to read through the gazetteer again for better suggestions).
I have not encountered a summoner in use before, the biggest difference I can tell between the two is how Eidolons are created...I kinda want to see how one plays so either is ok to use.

Well, I wasn't thinking that the country would be evil. The country and general nobleship doesn't have to be evil for there to be one evil, power hungry person in that country, right? A country could otherwise be Neutral or Good, but have one or two corrupt people within that government, so I was thinking of the country being more Neutral as a whole (Though obviously still Lawful) but the character's family that ousted them would be Evil and looking to amass more personal power. My Character's long term goal (even though it likely wouldn't come up in-game) would be to return, prove their innocence and oust their family member, obviously. xD

Hmmm, ok! That's what I thought, RE Cohorts. I'm still toying with the idea, but I'll think about it!

Blinkin, I would assume that the Valet would just be bought using the "Hirelings" rule, which is basically "pay them and they stick around," right? xD

[Chulanowa]

Ok, I think that I might be able to salvage the character, but I have a question or two before I think too much about this.

how would a man servant be classified? I'm thinking more of a vally; someone to take care of the day to day, mundane things. Not a cohort or torch barrier, just for some fun with a long suffering servant, "My lord, it will be horribly difficult to get this blood stain out, it's velvet! Can't you go one day without ruining a good coat, my lord?"

And, would anyone know how to create a vordu, or traveling gypsy type wagon? Again, it's more flavor than anything.

A hired valet runs you 1gp per day for employment; a footman half as much (Ultimate Equipment pg. 99)

A vardo would run you probably about as much as a carriage (100GP) plus some for amenities (a carriage doesn't include a stove or the like for instance). if you were asking how get one built, well, I would guess "hire a carpenter" is the answer there, which runs you 3sp /day for skilled labor. There an unspecified higher cost for "expert craftsman" though

Though if you were asking how to build one, man wish I could help you, been wanting one myself for a while now 


mjrbatou, did you catch my Q?

[Muse]

  Whoo hoo!  The game is go. 

  now, do I want to build my Alchemist that didnt' get into Silim's game?  Or an eldritch knight--finally gets high enough level for some good play!--, or do we need a divine caster?

[Vergil Tanner]

Extra question. How far into the future of Golarion is this game? Like, what's going on in Padishah, Kelesh, Galt and Osirion? Those are the main contenders for where my character is from, but obviously the year affects their current political states which will affect which one is the best fit. My gut says Padishah since not much is known about it outside the Satrapy of Qadira and the Emperor has like 200 kids, but I wanna know what the others are like before I make my final call

[Muse]

Character Name: Akari Taefaeli
Race: Elf
Nickname: Firebug.  Transcendental Girl Akari
Gender: Female
Age: 125

Class(es): (Transcendental) Alchemist 13
Level: 13
Personality: Ogenki desu.  Akari is cheerful and perky and likes to make people smile.  She became an adventurer for a lot of reason.  She wants to be a hero and believes in heroic things--protecting the innocent avenging injustice. 
   She's also a thrill seeker, even an adrenaline junky.  She really gets off on battle, on refining volatile chemicals right up to their purest point, knowing one more drop might make it explode.  Climbing rocks, clinging to the backs of fast horses, tinkering with unknown magical items. 
   She also adventures for science!  She belives that through learning and ingenuity we can make life better in all ways--especially in protecting the inocent!   
Alignment:   Chaotic Good
History:      Akari Taefaeli (Elven for Leaf Shadow) is an elf born in a cosmopolatine city.  Emphatic, compassionate, and fun loving, Akari learned early on that different people aged at different rates.  Akari kept the courage to love even when so many of her friends grew up and went away or even died in a few scant decades.  Akari also learned that the best way to deal with the sorrow of loosing a friend was to make a new friend.  The best way to make friends, she found, was to smile.  Be cheerful and happy.  Show interest in the things people did and--if they made you happy--let them know.  As a result Akari has cultivated an unquenchable good cheer that occasionally borders on--if not insanity--at least parody. 

   Intelligent, curious, and whimsical, Akari could be annoying to adults who had work to do.  One day saw a fireworks display and pleaded with the illuminator to show her how he did it.  He was a gnome named Ahvalor T. Tabernacle, a Transcendental Alchemist retired from adventuring.  After a couple of minutes of questions, the gnome held up a hand and said, “Wait.” 

   Somewhat to his surprise, the talkative child obediently held still and quiet for almost fifteen minutes as he prepared a delicate firework.  Once the sky flower was finished, he turned on his stool and looked down at the child.  “Fetch a stool and sit with me, child.  Akari Leafshadow, right?” 

   When she'd done this, he said, “You have three questions.  If they interest me, I will answer them all to your satisfaction and give you a chain of firecrackers.  If they're boring to me, I will give you three short and honest answers and then you will leave me in peace.  Do you understand?” 

   The little elf's eyes widened, but she nodded.  Then she thought intensely for over a minute before asking her questions...

   A week later Akari was Ahvalor's favorite apprentice. 

   After coming of age, Akari spent 15 years as an adventuring alchemist, using sword and bow, bomb and mutagen to protect the innocent and vanquish the profane while using fireworks, dancing, and stories to spread smiles and lift hopes.  After doing several missions in and around Shadowspire, she began to feel at home there.  Eventually, Akari set up a shop in Shadowspire.  Now she has finally gone all out and settled there, taking up residence in her shop and accepting a contract from the city that she fights first in their defense. 

[Vergil Tanner]

I want to write up a character sheet, but I need to know what the status of the other countries are first so I can pick where she's from xD

[Blinkin]

I've been looking for years on how to create a vordu liie wagon. There are the fortune teller's wagon and, I think there's a worker wagon or something but no rules on how to upgrade them.

was thiking that I could put a spell on the vordu to make it larger on the inside, but not sure what spell would be best for it. I looked at demi plane, but it doesn't sound like it would work. It would be something of a status thing for the character as would the servant to make MC look like a privledged, aarogant asshole, althought not really being said ashole.

Any suggestions? I have about 40k left to spend and it sounded like a fun addition.

[Muse]

Blinkin, look at magic tents!  The Expedition pavilion! 

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/e-g/expedition-pavilion/

The expedition pavilion costs 6,200.  it's portable as a any tent.  it's 10 feet square on the outside, but when set up it's 30 feet square on the inside.  temperature controlled, magical lights on a command word.  i would totally allow that to be applied to the inside of a wagon! 

you may or may not have to exit the wagon to access your bag of holding--DM's ruling--but you won't divide by zero just by walking into it wearing a handy haversack. 

[Callie Del Noire]

Waffling between a wizard (maybe an older version of the one I’m playing) or a roguely type

[mjrbatou]

Without too many spoilers, do you have a general idea of the kind of enemies we're more likely to face? Will it be mostly humanoids, monsters, etc.?

It would be easier to mention the least likely foes you'll face.  Animals, Vermin, and Dragons are the least likely types of foes you may face.  The dragons are assuming you don't pick fights with them since they will be present around the city.

The most likely after some extra thought, would be evil outsiders, aberrations, and undead.  There is a large 'army' of undead that is friendly to Shadowspire, so it's not a 'destroy on sight' situation with undead.

Ok, I think that I might be able to salvage the character, but I have a question or two before I think too much about this.

how would a man servant be classified? I'm thinking more of a vally; someone to take care of the day to day, mundane things. Not a cohort or torch barrier, just for some fun with a long suffering servant, "My lord, it will be horribly difficult to get this blood stain out, it's velvet! Can't you go one day without ruining a good coat, my lord?"

And, would anyone know how to create a vordu, or traveling gypsy type wagon? Again, it's more flavor than anything.

A Valet would cost 1 gold per day to serve your character, usually paid by the week or month at a time.

A self driving wagon could be a lesser construct instead for 11,000 gold pieces to have constructed.

Extra question. How far into the future of Golarion is this game? Like, what's going on in Padishah, Kelesh, Galt and Osirion? Those are the main contenders for where my character is from, but obviously the year affects their current political states which will affect which one is the best fit. My gut says Padishah since not much is known about it outside the Satrapy of Qadira and the Emperor has like 200 kids, but I wanna know what the others are like before I make my final call

I didn't want you to think I missed this question, but I'll need to check the places you mentioned before giving an answer.

I've been looking for years on how to create a vordu liie wagon. There are the fortune teller's wagon and, I think there's a worker wagon or something but no rules on how to upgrade them.

was thiking that I could put a spell on the vordu to make it larger on the inside, but not sure what spell would be best for it. I looked at demi plane, but it doesn't sound like it would work. It would be something of a status thing for the character as would the servant to make MC look like a privledged, aarogant asshole, althought not really being said ashole.

Any suggestions? I have about 40k left to spend and it sounded like a fun addition.

I remember a magnificent mansion spell that would work to make the inside of a construction larger than the outside, can't find it with a quick search but that's what came to mind first.  Muse's Expedition Pavilion works as well and is cheaper since it uses a lower level spell.

[indarkestknight]

150,000 starting gold value.  The highest value item should not be greater than 50k and other items should not be more than 30k.  Masterworked item costs and things very close to these values are ok (that is, the masterwork component and the base price of gear wont count, unless its something like a mithral full plate or other expensive component)

How does this interact with characters that have access to crafting?

[Blinkin]

Thanks Muse, I already know about the pavillion. I didn't think that it would work as an enchantment on a wagon, nor the duration issues.  I'll take another look at it, but it is up to our GM to allow or not. I just love the idea of eventually blowing their minds to be let inside to see this huge room with all of the bells and whistles, complete with  a personal servant for massages and other things. lol

[Blinkin]

A Valet would cost 1 gold per day to serve your character, usually paid by the week or month at a time.

I could probabily pay him by the year starting out. would the NPC be a GM controlled thing, or PC controlled, and would I need to create a sheet for a fairly simple manservant?

A self driving wagon could be a lesser construct instead for 11,000 gold pieces to have constructed.

I wasn't thinking of a self propelled wagon, but a horse for that with the manservant driving. I was thinking that a wagon would cost about 100 GP and maybe a couple of hundred more for craftmanship so that it would be a masterwork piece. If it's more than that, we can talk about it and dee if the idea would fly at all. I'm looking at the son of either wealthy merchants, or a noble out to explore, adventure and make his own mark on the world.A bit gargarious, boastful of adventures that he hadn't had, or a bigger role than he actually played, a bit of a pampered fop with a bit more going on in the head than might be expected... but he does so like his comforts and civilized environments... which begs what is he doing with this flea bitten lot.

I remember a magnificent mansion spell that would work to make the inside of a construction larger than the outside, can't find it with a quick search but that's what came to mind first.  Muse's Expedition Pavilion works as well and is cheaper since it uses a lower level spell.

My only concern with the expedition Pavillion is that it's not perminent and doesn't have the option of making it so.

I do know of the mansion, and it was my first thought, but it seemed like it would cost even more than the emiplain.  I've seen ddiscussions on perminent mansions cast on items in several places, but the price for it seemed to be really steap; like 50K cost.

It would, of course, be a place for everyone to enjoy once they know about it.

[mjrbatou]

How does this interact with characters that have access to crafting?

If your character has item crafting feats, then they gain an additional 50,000 gold in spare gear.  To be more specific, the extra gear is tied up someplace else and must be swapped with other items your character is carrying/using to use them.  This can be described as your character having a shop and some of their items have to be on display to continue attracting customers.

Also, I'm combining many crafting feats.  The names can be changed, but with EITR it got me thinking of a common caster feat tax I run into
Consumable crafting - scrolls, potions, anything with a single use/charge
Charged crafting - wands, staves, rods, anything with multiple charges not worn on the body
Permanent crafting - wondrous items, rings, arms & armor, anything worn on the body
Life crafting - constructs, plants, anything lifelike with some level of intelligence

Items should fall into these categories and they are not dependent on each other.

I could probabily pay him by the year starting out. would the NPC be a GM controlled thing, or PC controlled, and would I need to create a sheet for a fairly simple manservant?

I wasn't thinking of a self propelled wagon, but a horse for that with the manservant driving. I was thinking that a wagon would cost about 100 GP and maybe a couple of hundred more for craftmanship so that it would be a masterwork piece. If it's more than that, we can talk about it and dee if the idea would fly at all. I'm looking at the son of either wealthy merchants, or a noble out to explore, adventure and make his own mark on the world.A bit gargarious, boastful of adventures that he hadn't had, or a bigger role than he actually played, a bit of a pampered fop with a bit more going on in the head than might be expected... but he does so like his comforts and civilized environments... which begs what is he doing with this flea bitten lot.


My only concern with the expedition Pavillion is that it's not perminent and doesn't have the option of making it so.

I do know of the mansion, and it was my first thought, but it seemed like it would cost even more than the emiplain.  I've seen ddiscussions on perminent mansions cast on items in several places, but the price for it seemed to be really steap; like 50K cost.

It would, of course, be a place for everyone to enjoy once they know about it.

Your valet would be controlled by the GM and be a normal npc, meaning he can die very easily if he's taken to dangerous areas.

How about 10 gold per square foot you want as an extradimensional space.  It's more expensive than the pavilion but ends up cheaper than the magnificent mansion as written.  The base wagon has the normal cost for an item of it's type.

[Muse]

  How are you saying that the expedition pavilion isn't permanent, Blinkin?  I guess because it says you can only set it up once a day? 

  MJ, I inlcuded in my history that i had settled here and gotten invested in this town.  (not retired.) 

  I was thinking--on Zaer's advise--that I might have a shop.  I could have a stock of alchemical items and common potions, and make uncommon potions and minor constructs on commission.  I was going to bring up the "running a buisness" rules, but it sounds like you've got something in mind allready?