Looking for DM & Group for Pathfinder 1e High Level game

[mjrbatou]

What about things like Elephant In The Room?

I don't think I'll have a problem with it.  From what I've seen so far of Elephant in the Room it does save feats for characters that lack bonus feats without being game breaking.

[Vergil Tanner]

I agree. Whenever I run Pathfinder, I tend to use EITR just because it helps characters that don't have bonus feats, and it makes Martials more viable at higher levels compared to Wizards who are just...Gods. xD Seriously, fuck Point Blank Shot. xD

[Blinkin]

I'm debating playing a male character, but I have a question about a magic item that I want t, but not sure if it's possible to have one made.

I want to combine a Belt of Incredible Dexterity with a Belt of Tumbling. The problem is, aside from the CL and effect, they are the same belt. Both use Cat's Paw, so can you enchant an item with the same spell twice?

Belt of Tumbling

Aura faint
transmutation; CL 1st; Slot belt; Price 800 gp; Weight 1 lb.

DESCRIPTION

This thin and flexible cotton cord is meant to be wrapped several times around wearer’s waist. The belt’s wearer gains a +4 competence bonus on Acrobatics checks made to move through a threatened square or through an enemy’s space.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS

Feats Craft Wondrous Item, cat’s grace; Cost 400 gp

Belt of Incredible Dexterity

Aura moderate transmutation; CL 8th; Slot belt; Weight 1 lb.; Price 4,000 gp (+2), 16,000 gp (+4), 36,000 gp (+6)

DESCRIPTION

This belt has a large silver buckle, usually depicting the image of a tiger.

The belt grants the wearer an enhancement bonus to Dexterity of +2, +4, or +6. Treat this as a temporary ability bonus for the first 24 hours the belt is worn.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS

Craft Wondrous Item, cat’s grace; Cost 2,000 gp (+2), 8,000 gp (+4), 18,000 gp (+6)

So, how would you go about adding one to the other?

I know that I could get the 10K physical poweress, but unless my math fails me )And it always does!), 4,000 and 4,000 for a +2 to two physical stats is less than 10,000; I don't mind two items in different locations to save 2,000. But, I have so many options for other slots that having both tumbling and dex on one item would be better for me.

[pdragon]

How advanced would the setting be technology wise? Guns? Artificer tech? etc.

[mjrbatou]

Blinkin
Pathfinder consolidated some items to save space on characters, 3e used to have belts of strength, gloves of dexterity, amulets of health, headbands of intellect, periapts of wisdom, and cloaks of charisma.

The cost for adding additional abilities to an item is 50% higher for the second ability.  That's why a belt of physical prowess costs 10k while each bonus is only 8k if purchased separately. 

To combine a belt of incredible dexterity with a belt of tumbling the cost is 5,200 gold (4,000 for the dex plus 800 times 1.5 [1,200] for the tumbling).
This is the best case scenario using the belt of dexterity as the base item, if you use the belt of tumbling as the base you'd spend 6,800 gold instead.

How advanced would the setting be technology wise? Guns? Artificer tech? etc.

Early gunpowder such as muskets and cannons (single shot muzzle load) for nonmagical weapons.  Clockworks are popular but most items are created with some level of magic.

[Zaer Darkwail]

Path of War as allowed source?

[pdragon]

what alignment would the game be focused on?

[mjrbatou]

Path of War as allowed source?

The last time a player used path of war their character killed an opponent who's CR was twice their level in a single strike without any assistance, or a critical hit...the character was level 5.

I understand the player was likely min/maxing in some way, but that was supposed to be an impossible challenge until the party gained a few more levels.

what alignment would the game be focused on?

the city favors neutral good, so as long as no one is actively playing an evil character who sacrifices others they won't have any problems in Shadowspire.  I don't usually limit alignments as long as common sense is used (no paladin and antipaladin in the same party for example)

[Zaer Darkwail]

The last time a player used path of war their character killed an opponent who's CR was twice their level in a single strike without any assistance, or a critical hit...the character was level 5.

I understand the player was likely min/maxing in some way, but that was supposed to be an impossible challenge until the party gained a few more levels.

So, I assume that's a 'no' for the path of war material? The guy must have critted with a high damage maneuver (or used some other cheese).

[mjrbatou]

I don't like saying 'no' outright to things, and a single player using a system once is not a good sample size.  As long as the character abilities don't exceed what a mage can do at the same level I think it'll be fine to use PoW.

I'm not much of an optimizer myself or go about it the wrong way, but over 100 damage with a normal hit did kill the game for me.  It was an AP and the encounters simply were not created for that kind of damage output.  But enough of old complaints, this is a new game!

[Zaer Darkwail]

Ok, so avoid over-optimization (but optimize a bit as otherwise not able to keep up with caster ).

[Callie Del Noire]

I don’t have it and reading them the webpage is a hassle.. so I guess I’ll be doing a caster then

[Blinkin]

Anyone know of a trait, or feat, that adds an additional 5' to threat area? Looking to give myself a bit of a range option without going to a range weapon.

I know about Lunge an a couple of half-orc racial traits, but since I'm working on a half-elf, not a lot of use.

[Vergil Tanner]

Not that I recall. I highly doubt there's a trait that duplicates the effects of a feat that closely. xD

[indarkestknight]

Anyone know of a trait, or feat, that adds an additional 5' to threat area? Looking to give myself a bit of a range option without going to a range weapon.

I know about Lunge an a couple of half-orc racial traits, but since I'm working on a half-elf, not a lot of use.

Magic items yes, trait or feat, not so much, outside of lunge.

Swashbuckler, Blinkin?

[Vergil Tanner]

I'm looking to play a Kineticist who is basically Starfire xD

[Callie Del Noire]

I'm looking to play a Kineticist who is basically Starfire xD

It’s not a bad thing, it’d be fun to see done.

[Vergil Tanner]

Yhup! Hence it needing to be high level, since level 11 is when the build actually "completes," as it were xD
Flight, fire blasts, etc etc.

[indarkestknight]

Will the plotline depend on what we come up with or could we get an elevator pitch of what you're thinking the campaign will be like so we can craft our characters accordingly?

[Blinkin]

Magic items yes, trait or feat, not so much, outside of lunge.

Swashbuckler, Blinkin?

Yeah, but I'm looking at a little different direction with it  if I can find the right feats/traits, maybe a couple of magic items/enchantments for it.

I want to look more at a whip wielder and possibly area control as a supporting slot. With Prehensile whip and combat manuevers, it might be fun as a change of pace. I can increase the damage output a little and stretch the whip out to 20', but the threat range is only 10'. I could take lunge, but I'm not sure, as written, if it would do me much good. Still have the rapier for upclose higher damage option, but tripping people and disarming for the rest of you lot could be fun. Between the fighter levels and swashbuckler's, I have a feat for almost every level.  thought about sneaking in a level of rogue, but I'm not sold on it with a whip build. I think that I could sneak attack after tripping, but not sure. I'm learning as I go on this one.

[Callie Del Noire]

Yeah, but I'm looking at a little different direction with it  if I can find the right feats/traits, maybe a couple of magic items/enchantments for it.

I want to look more at a whip wielder and possibly area control as a supporting slot. With Prehensile whip and combat manuevers, it might be fun as a change of pace. I can increase the damage output a little and stretch the whip out to 20', but the threat range is only 10'. I could take lunge, but I'm not sure, as written, if it would do me much good. Still have the rapier for upclose higher damage option, but tripping people and disarming for the rest of you lot could be fun. Between the fighter levels and swashbuckler's, I have a feat for almost every level.  thought about sneaking in a level of rogue, but I'm not sold on it with a whip build. I think that I could sneak attack after tripping, but not sure. I'm learning as I go on this one.

Whip builds can be fun, I did one once upon a time, dex based war priest with dual whips. Took a bunch of whip based mastery feats.  Never actually played her though

[Blinkin]

I'm hoping to get a chance to play it and see what happens. I have through Improved Whip Mastery and Greater does the same thing as either the prehensile trait or enchantment, so didn't bother.

I'm still trying to figure out how to get presion damage with a whip beyond the 5' area. In theroy, you can get it out to 30', but no one's explained how. You can't really flank at that range and getting someone flatfooted is up in the air. I need to go back and look at it again...

And, while I feel stupid about this, where can I see the Elephant in the room? Web searches seem to just get me the original blog post and I know that there's a whole list of combat feats that have been altered.

[Vergil Tanner]

This Page (Click the link) lists all of the changes in EITR.

[mjrbatou]

Will the plotline depend on what we come up with or could we get an elevator pitch of what you're thinking the campaign will be like so we can craft our characters accordingly?

This campaign would be after the Tyrant's fall, so overthrowing him (which is a possible objective for the other campaign) is not possible.

My go to is that your characters are the peacekeepers/troubleshooters who handle the tougher threats to the city.  Some examples of what I mean are
- rogue demons/devils who want the city returned to it's evil beginnings are gathering forces
- farmhands are going missing, as are the regular guards who have tried to investigate
- and some miscellaneous creature experiments left over from the Tyrant's magical laboratories (some might be more interesting than others, all lethal to most npcs)

Otherwise the characters can explore the city, it's inhabitants, and find/create other stories to play.

[Callie Del Noire]

So a city focused archetype would be quite fitting?