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Started by MagicalPen, April 05, 2017, 11:31:42 AM

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So Cassini is a satellite thingy that has been orbiting Saturn for 13 years. NASA plans to crash it into Saturn at the end of its cycle.

Now, what happens if some little alien buddy is walking around, going out for a nice walk, and this human satellite comes down on its head and kills it? Maybe its the Alien Queen who gets smushed. Now, all the little Alien buddies running around would get awful mad and declare war on humankind for this unjust act!

Now, 100 years from now when we land on Saturn, we'll be met with armed resistance. We will wonder why the Aliens didn't try to communicate with us. We will commit to their full destruction. And thus for the first Milky War Galactic War will be started.


Just sayin'.

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Saturn is a gas giant. At best, maybe there's some weird space extremophile floating through its atmosphere. Given the chemical, thermal and radiation mess in that place, a crashing space probe is probably the last of its worries.
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True, but say we crash something into Mars on purpose (or again)...you never know!  O8)

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By the time we're ready (if ever) to land a manned craft there, they could be extinct. Or we could be. Or both, more likely. And what are the odds they'd be better armed than us anyway?

And for all we know, sending one of our probes to any of these other planets could be what seeds life there in the first place, inadvertently.
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I believe that he's referring to the mission's goal to land/crash on Io (I think it's Io), which is a moon made of frozen ice water.   Until we develop warp travel and tricorders, pretty much our only way of gathering information on other planets/celestial bodies is to go there.

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Quote from: Hunter on April 05, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
I believe that he's referring to the mission's goal to land/crash on Io (I think it's Io), which is a moon made of frozen ice water.   Until we develop warp travel and tricorders, pretty much our only way of gathering information on other planets/celestial bodies is to go there.

Or until the Vulcans acknowledge us and share their wisdom and technology.
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Quote from: Hunter on April 05, 2017, 12:42:17 PM
Until we develop warp travel and tricorders, pretty much our only way of gathering information on other planets/celestial bodies is to go there.

Information is gathered by the nature of photons alone, for example, by considering their wavelength with respect to potential shifts. Considering the proportional relationship between wavelength and energy, and in, whereby different elements of different electronic configurations has shown to release energy in the form of a photon in defined values when an electron drops in "quantum energy level" e.g. by virtue of its probabilistic position (e.g. for example, the distance between the electron and the atomic nuclei contributes to such defined values etc.) etc. to a different quantum orbital state in defined, discreet differences in values.

Which means, by virtue of photons alone, we would be able to gauge indications of the composition of elements, and thus more and more considerations are built. When considering advancing supercomputers of which allows higher confidence simulation, we would be able to consider different systems of particles by virtue of our observed photon wavelength, and this is how astrophysics consider the systems of particles in different stars.

So, why is Mars red? And so is our blood, there is a common equivalent entity (red, of course, is not really accurate, scientifically, we would consider the range of wavelengths). The fact of its colors alone could give us indications of its various properties and thus potential ecosystems of its past and therefore potential organisms.

As our understanding of physics becomes more advanced, more and more properties may be gauged from photons and photons alone, especially in the science fiction consideration of quantum entanglement "technologies". An ingenious theorist is supposed to predict prior to practical investigations from limited sources of data.

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Quote from: MagicalPen on April 05, 2017, 11:31:42 AM
So Cassini is a satellite thingy that has been orbiting Saturn for 13 years. NASA plans to crash it into Saturn at the end of its cycle.

Now, what happens if some little alien buddy is walking around, going out for a nice walk, and this human satellite comes down on its head and kills it? Maybe its the Alien Queen who gets smushed. Now, all the little Alien buddies running around would get awful mad and declare war on humankind for this unjust act!

Now, 100 years from now when we land on Saturn, we'll be met with armed resistance. We will wonder why the Aliens didn't try to communicate with us. We will commit to their full destruction. And thus for the first Milky War Galactic War will be started.


Just sayin'.
We're not going to land on Saturn. :P
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Mathim

Unless we're at the stage where we're ready to start colonizing other planets, them having a standing army waiting to repel us is a non-issue. It's only a problem if they perfect interplanetary travel and advanced weaponry, then we'd have something to worry about. But they'd likely be in political messes like us and have their own issues before worrying about what to do about us.
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wander

It's more I think that Saturn is a gas-giant... You can't really 'land' on one of those. ^^; The moons are a different story, though let's start with baby-steps, eh... Maybe set up a base on the moon or Mars before going out past the Asteroid Belt... Jupiter has moons of it own also. ^^; Course it all depends then on planetary alignment...

Mathim

Well, my comments are more in general, without regard to whether it's Saturn or something not solid (not to mention the gravity that would probably crush us like grapes). Sure, there's probably life in some stage of development somewhere, possibly so far beyond our ability to see that we'll never make contact. But then, again, what are the odds they'd pose any legitimate threat (beyond being some kind of deadly infectious bacteria) to us if we decided to go there in person after accidentally crashing into them during our first up-close scouting probe?
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