Christine O'Donnell

Started by Jude, September 20, 2010, 10:58:28 AM

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Jude

First there was the anti-masturbation commentary; that was bad enough.  Her victory speech was irritating too.  She has a history of making bad financial dealings and publicly saying very crazy things.  And now this:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20100920/el_yblog_upshot/witchcraft-comments-from-past-haunt-christine-odonnell

I think it's possible that we've found the craziest politician in America.  And wouldn't you know it, she's Tea Party Republican Nominee.  Consider me shocked.

Trieste

"My first date with a witch was on a satanic altar, but I didn't know it"...

It's like every crazy, delusional, bigoted person in the US got together and said "Let's have a political party! YAY WE LIKE PARTIES" (that word, I don't think it means what you think it means) and it's just this ... I ... there is a dent in my desk from the headdesking. Where do they come from? Why are they getting all these votes? Should we just rename to the United States of Arkham and leave it at that?

I want to start knocking on doors and blow airhorns at people. "MEEEP: Hello, America, this is Trieste calling to let you know that you can disagree with the status quo without flinging the pendulum to the nutty side."

Avi

Trieste... you just about summed up how I'm feeling about this.  Nicely done. :P

You can be opposed to the status quo.  In fact, that's GOOD.  This country is based on debate, discussion, and the creation of better plans through that process.  But screaming incoherently about fascists, communists, illegal immigrants, and Muslims is not exactly conducive to a reasoned debate about the issues.

I think I'll need to invest in an official face-palming glove by the time we reach November.
Your reality doesn't apply to me...

Synecdoche17

There's also news reports that Christine O'Donnell has been stealing her own campaign money to live off, like, for the last year. Here's the link.
She also claimed Joe Biden tapped her phone line, and that her Republican opponent, Mike Castle, had her stalked by private detectives.

This lady is as nutty as an almond.
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Spice

The positive is she's unlikely to be elected. Please, please tell me she won't be elected. And I suspect conservative T-Party candidates are going to split the Republican vote, which is a net positive for the Democratic candidates. We'll soon see.

MasterMischief

You say 'witch' like it's a bad thing.

Revolverman

The Democrats will find a way to get this "Eccentric" person elected.

Callie Del Noire

It's Ross Perot all over again. A group of 'never had a clues' come along and split the vote.

Trieste

Quote from: MasterMischief on September 20, 2010, 05:55:09 PM
You say 'witch' like it's a bad thing.

I do not. She says 'witch' like it's a bad thing, in part because she seems not to have the faintest clue what one is. Are you surprised? I know you are.

Jude

I'm not voting for anyone who claims to be a witch.  I can be tolerant of other people's religious beliefs and still think they're nuts for being convinced that human beings can cast spells.  That's not the sort of person I want running my country.

Trieste

Not that I'm asking for your location, but it's a bit of a moot point unless you live in Delaware.

DarklingAlice

She also believes that there are mouse-human hybrids running around and that condoms spread AIDS. Not the type of person who should have anything to do with medical/scientific funding (not that any of the people in congress really are >_<).
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Serephino

I'm afraid that she, and many others like her, will end up getting elected.  People are upset with Democrats right now because everything wasn't magically fixed overnight.  The 'Tea Party' has done a very good job so far of screaming the right things.  People voted for President Obama because they wanted change.  And now that the Tea Party people are saying they want change, they may likely do well in November.

Nobody thought she'd get the nomination, and I'm sure she was just as nutty before she won it.  Since new things are coming out there might yet be hope.  I want change as much as anybody, but I don't think extremist nutjobs are the way to go. 

MasterMischief

Quote from: Trieste on September 20, 2010, 08:16:30 PM
I do not. She says 'witch' like it's a bad thing, in part because she seems not to have the faintest clue what one is. Are you surprised? I know you are.

I am trying to cut back on my sarcasm.  You are not helping.   ;D

Trieste

No, I'm really not the person to help with that, Master Poopy Pants.

MasterMischief

Quote from: Trieste on September 21, 2010, 06:20:05 PM
No, I'm really not the person to help with that, Master Poopy Pants.

Don't make me cast a spell on you, sizzle buns.

Callie Del Noire

She reminds me of Ross Perott, who split the vote just in time to get President Clinton elected. He wasn't really hoping to get elected. He KNEW he didn't have a chance, but if he pitched his platform right he could skuttle the campaign of President Bush. She's not doing it intentionally but it just goes on to 'prove' that republicans are all irrational nutjobs who are talking out their ass.

And as a moderate republican, it makes me want to scream.

And to forestall anyone saying that Ross wasn't trying to scuttle Bush I's re-election, look into their mutual history. He had a BIG axe to grind with the senior Bush.

Synecdoche17

Quote from: Spice on September 20, 2010, 05:04:43 PM
The positive is she's unlikely to be elected. Please, please tell me she won't be elected. And I suspect conservative T-Party candidates are going to split the Republican vote, which is a net positive for the Democratic candidates. We'll soon see.

Uh, Tea Party candidates are Republican candidates. That's honestly what infuriates me the most - this idea that the vast majority of Tea Partiers aren't just Republicans ditching a tainted brand. O'Donnell is not running on a "Tea Party" ticket, she's running on the Republican ticket as the Republican candidate for Senate.

She may not win, but she has a better chance now than she ought to have ever had.
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Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Synecdoche17 on September 21, 2010, 07:19:17 PM
Uh, Tea Party candidates are Republican candidates. That's honestly what infuriates me the most - this idea that the vast majority of Tea Partiers aren't just Republicans ditching a tainted brand. O'Donnell is not running on a "Tea Party" ticket, she's running on the Republican ticket as the Republican candidate for Senate.

She may not win, but she has a better chance now than she ought to have ever had.

Exactly! Which just reinforces the 'All Republicans are froth in the brain idiots who follow Glen Beck and Ann Coulter'. Which by the way, we don't. I know a LOT of folks who are republicans who feel marginlized by the guys running the party, of course growing up in the rural south I know a LOT of rural democrats who feel ignored too.

Synecdoche17

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on September 21, 2010, 07:23:20 PM
Exactly! Which just reinforces the 'All Republicans are froth in the brain idiots who follow Glen Beck and Ann Coulter'. Which by the way, we don't. I know a LOT of folks who are republicans who feel marginlized by the guys running the party, of course growing up in the rural south I know a LOT of rural democrats who feel ignored too.
Which is why showing up for primaries is important, but normal, moderate voters generally don't, which leaves you with the crazies on the ballot in November. At this point, the only option is to hold your nose and vote for the other guy/girl.
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Jude

#20
I was thinking about this indepth a few days ago, went over statistics, and really delved deep into considering whether or not Tea Partiers and Republicans are the same entity, and I came to a very simple conclusion:  the vast majority of Tea Partiers are Republicans/Conservatives, but only some Conservatives/Republicans are Tea Partiers.

Not all of the crazy in the Republican Party was outsourced to the Tea Party movement, but I'd say the core of it has been.  The morally corrupt sort who are more interested in wielding power and serving big business seem to have stuck with the Republican Core (Karl Rove), while the crazy Middle-Class elements have left the fray and formed their own movement.

There are three groups left in the Republican Party that haven't sworn allegiance to the Tea Party at this point:  Libertarians (because they're rejected for not being social conservatives), big-business types (because they're rejected for not being true populists), and sane Republicans (because they refuse to carry Obama is Hitler signs, and they actually believe in moderation and are eschewed by the Tea Party for that reason).
Quote from: Hunter on September 21, 2010, 06:51:08 PM
Oh no, it's very like she will.   And I'll be glad that it's not another one of those Socialist Democrats.
If empirical evidence is any indication, you're wrong about her electoral chances.

The socialist label simply because Democrats support government programs and intervention is unfair.  Because, using that logic, the Tea Party is Socialist too (someone cue dramatic music).  The majority of them want their social programs, such as Medicare and Social Security, left alone.  They only seem to be against social programs that don't benefit them.

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Vekseid on September 21, 2010, 09:39:32 PM
Come the next election season I'm probably going to be a bit more vocal about pointing out primaries in the US and their importance. I'm not opposed to conservative positions per se, however, having a leadership so disconnected with reality or outright malignant is not healthy for a country.

Thank you Vek.. that sums up a lot of the old school these days.. Malignant.

They are more concerned about keeping control than keeping in touch.

DarklingAlice

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Trieste

Shouldna clicked it, but I clicked it. I knew I shouldna clicked it when I clicked it, but I clicked it.

My main problem with this woman is encapsulated by the fact that she says in one breath that big government is interfering with our freedoms and has to go, and then in the next breath complains about abortions being available on demand. That is my main gripe with conservative America, that WE DESERVE TO BE FREE FROM BIG GOVERNMENT unless it comes to imposing their morality on others. That's also one of my big gripes with liberal America, too, to be fair. You can't have it both ways, folks. You can't have tax cuts along with free or low-cost health care. You can't tax the hell out of the evil rich people and then allow rampant corruption to permeate the system of distribution. You can't do it all. Most importantly, you can't please all of the people all of the time so stop trying and do what's best for us as a country, as a cohesive whole. Washington has forgotten that and they desperately need a reality check. Do we need to randomly not pay 10% of Congress, rotating on a monthly basis, in order to make them feel the uncertainty and stress of the current economy? It seems like we must sometimes.

So glad I don't live in Delaware, because I think I'd have a tough choice deciding whether I wanted to vote for The Other Guy or just write in Mickey Mouse.

Wolfy

She makes Sarah Palin looks like a Genius. O-o And that..you have to actually TRY to be that moronic..it doesn't come naturally.

Also Trieste, if Write-Ins worked, Bugs Bunny would have been president since he was first introduced. O-o o3o