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Offline BlissTopic starter

Teabag Obama!
« on: April 16, 2009, 07:35:42 AM »
....which is to say, send him teabags to protest high taxes, just like the Boston Tea Party! ...even though that was taxation without representation, which people have now.


Schuster: If You're Planning Tea Bagging Across The Country, 'You're Going To Need A Dick Armey'


Seriously, guys... I had to watch this twice because I couldn't breathe from laughing.

I also suggest checking out both Rachel Maddow and John Stewart's pieces on this particular news item.

Offline Zeitgeist

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 07:50:24 AM »
I would agree that the gleeful emphasis on 'teabagging' and the obvious sexual connotations that come with it are indeed hilarious, even if the root cause and purpose behind the event(s) I do believe are genuine and very worthy in of themselves.

Offline BlissTopic starter

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 08:02:34 AM »
Ultimately, I think that no matter what happens with taxing (raising, lowering, or leaving it as is) there's going to be protest, sometimes with validity and sometimes without... in this case, I think the misguided nicknaming of their protest action is far more interesting than the protest itself.

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 08:09:18 AM »
A few notes:

Nothing more than I like to see a biased liberal news show rip a biased republican news show. They're like whiny little children.

If you pause when that guys says taxing or teabagging in the beginning it looks freaking hilarious.

And finally. How the hell could he deliver that with a straight face? I would be laughing my ass off.

Offline BlissTopic starter

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 08:12:03 AM »
*grin* If you want to see somebody lose it, go look up Rachel Maddow's segment on the teabagging movement... not only can she not keep a straight face for pretty much any of it, at one point she even actually starts to admonish the off-camera people in the newsroom for laughing and making her laugh!

You gotta wonder... why didn't these guys' aides sidle up to them and whisper "Dude, teabagging means (definition)...."

I mean, even the dude known for frequenting prostitutes didn't know? Seriously?

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 08:14:19 AM »
There are two definitions for teabagging as far as I know.

The video game slang.
And the sexual slang.

I'm thinking they're thinking the latter.

Offline BlissTopic starter

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 08:16:03 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, the VG slang sprouted from the sexual slang... given the location of this board in the public part of the site, do you mind PMing me to clarify terms? :)

Offline RubySlippers

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 09:37:32 AM »
I attended the local one in Saint Petersburg, Florida. As the only Libertarian Party person there I managed to get to the mic and pointed out the obvious to some boos.

1. To pay for a Nanny State its expensive and taxes will be higher. Noting many agencies like the Department of Education and the EPA duplicate state level programs so are not really needed.

2. That no party will lower the size and expenses of government at the Federal level until in election incumbants are widesly removed by voters, since they need votes more than their PAC money. Since voting keeps them in their seats not just money.

3. Its really simple to fix stop demanding the government offer so many services not in the US Constitution in its core powers and do more things yourselves and at the state level. For an example end all Federal money to education, health care, state projects, welfare and the like and focus on a small military again then we can get taxes down very low Federally. And local and state governments can tax to fill in any of these services with state taxes which are generally easier to contain. Or better let the citizens spend all their money freely to charity efforts as their conscience dictates and to pay for many things themselves with free market alternatives. Adding there is no reason the state and counties need to fund education that is the parents job to arrange for.

I guess the real truth hurts that the tax mess is the voters fault as is the government spending and that happened long before Obama hit the stage.

I wouild suggest restart the Federal income tax to what it was at the beginning 1% on incomes up to $3000 to a whopping 6% on incomes over $500,000.  No government should be able to steal more than that.

Offline Mathim

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 10:46:54 AM »
Give the poor guy a break. If he taxes the wrong people he's going to get a bullet in the head and he knows it.

Offline BlissTopic starter

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 10:47:49 AM »
....I don't understand your supposition, Mathim. Could you please flesh it out more and maybe offer some sources?

Offline Mathim

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2009, 10:51:37 AM »
What I'm saying is if he tries to tax the wealthy to solve the problem, he'll be assassinated. Doesn't anyone watch movies anymore? The good guy hero-type always dies doing the right thing. I wouldn't be surprised if this happened in a South Park episode in the near future.

Offline BlissTopic starter

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2009, 10:58:23 AM »
Oh yes, of COURSE, of course!

I completely forgot about how real life politics are always exactly like the movies. Thank you!


Ahem. Seriously, though. (Because teabagging for tax reform is so serious.)

Offline Mathim

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2009, 11:02:25 AM »
Actually most of the time reality is way more weird than what happens in the movies. Look at Watergate.

But anyway, if Obama wants to raise taxes I can understand the need but there are way more solutions (if only on the state level, not the federal level) that ought to be explored first. Or rather, that should have been done ages ago before Obama was left to clean up the enormous pile of excrement Bush left behind.

Offline Zakharra

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2009, 11:10:55 AM »
 Controlling spending first. The Fed. government spends WAY too much. Deficit spending (piling up a huge debt)  to get out of recession? The tax system needs to be totally reworked where everyone,e including the poor, pay income taxes. As it is now, nearly half of the US  doesn't pay income taxes.  I do not trust the current party to make an effective and fair tax system though. I don't trust the previous party, as it was structured, either to do it.

Offline consortium11

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2009, 04:33:23 PM »
I'm a modern liberal (generally Rawlsian), which is slightly to the left of what I know of the US libertarian party, so I'm against large government and social programs in general. I'm also in England, so I'm used to being looked at like I'm crazy for ever suggesting there's a case for reducing the size of the NHS and pretty much completely unrepresented by the political establishment here. From that background I think there's a few things to consider:

1) The fact that the major players supporting this have reaffirmed the use of the word "Teabagging" in the title is something I'd expect from 4chan, not the political elite. It reduces the impact it could have had. It's also clear that several high level members/supporters of the GOP have had a large role in organising this... which only adds to the idea being bandied around that as a movement mainstream Republicanism is out of touch.

2) In conjunction with the above, much of the protest was organised and masterminded by the "old boys" of Republican politics using modern methods. A couple of websites have already broken this down, but it's clear the "sudden grassroots support" was a combination of contrieved and manufactured, although of course, some people did attend outside of that.

3) Yet again in conjunction with above, there is no real popular support for reducing government size. There is while this story is in the news, but that's because smaller government has been a right wing catchphrase used by talking heads for the last decade without actually doing anything to support it. The Libertarian Party has horrible election numbers and Ron Paul, the biggest chance to show a real will to reduce government size only ever drew above 10% in primary votes when the cause was already lost. Both major candidates in the election supported the bailout, and both have had the liberal/socialist tag thrown at them multiple times.

I'd debate whether the government offering services such as education is right or wrong, but there's really an issue for another thread.

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2009, 08:11:52 AM »
... >.>

<.<

John Rawls is the DEBIL. *shakes fist, steals the threads serious bone, and runs off*

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2009, 08:34:33 AM »
... >.>

<.<

John Rawls is the DEBIL. *shakes fist, steals the threads serious bone, and runs off*
Thank You! Run like something that is actually high pressure moving to an area of lower pressure causing a vacuum. You know they should come up for a better word for that.

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2009, 08:35:48 AM »
I ... am...

SUPER BERNOULLI WOMAN.

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2009, 08:37:09 AM »
I ... am...

SUPER BERNOULLI WOMAN.
I smell movie deals.

Offline BlissTopic starter

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2009, 08:38:09 AM »
Does it smell like fresh-brewed tea?



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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2009, 08:40:43 AM »
What I'm saying is if he tries to tax the wealthy to solve the problem, he'll be assassinated. Doesn't anyone watch movies anymore? The good guy hero-type always dies doing the right thing. I wouldn't be surprised if this happened in a South Park episode in the near future.

Did Eisenhower have any repercussions for raising the top bracket to 90%?

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2009, 08:41:50 AM »
Does it smell like fresh-brewed tea?

Maybe I would smell it. I don't like tea. That's why I think I had an ancestor at that Tea Party. Though I think he might have been a Brit. If my family tree is even freaking decipherable.

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2009, 08:43:12 AM »
... did he get teabagged?

Offline BlissTopic starter

Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2009, 08:44:33 AM »
It was crates of tea, so...
...did he get teaboxed?



*insert Spongebob joke of your choice here*

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Re: Teabag Obama!
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2009, 08:46:34 AM »
Ahahahaha.



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