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Totoro

Quote from: Armphid on November 30, 2020, 12:12:30 PM
If I ended up playing him, I would make an effort to be active.  I assume he should probably be a senior X-Man/teacher rather than a junior member/student.  I'll consider some things either way.

I know you said that specific characters should not be called out in CS as well and it's no problem sticking to that.  Are there any events/storylines from the comics that have happened by 2020?

Yay!  Hi!   ;D

I think Scott would be best fitting as either already a senior X-Man/teacher or alternatively just on the cusp of finishing his education so that the transition to full X-Man can happen IC.

I'd basically just as per-storyline. But not really, no. None that I can think of.

There's been no sentinels, no 'big bads' really. The world's most dangerous known villain is Magneto by some stretch and most of the 'big disasters' have been perpetrated by Magneto, Juggernaut and the rest of the Brotherhood. The conflicts between the X-Men and the Brotherhood are jus their own things not really set up to mirror any canon arcs. I'm trying to make sure it's all fairly original and using the world to tell new stories.

Armphid

Thank you!  Though that brings up another question.

From what you said, in this universe, Juggernaut is a mutant.  As such, what are the upper bounds of his power?  Is he as truly unstoppable as the mystically empowered version of the character from the main 616 universe?  Or would he be more along the lines of someone like Colossus?

I don't know if he'll show up, I'm just curious as an X-fan.  Feel free to ignore if it's too minor a question!
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Kuroneko

Question, Sun. Is this a one character per player game, or can players have more than one character?
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Totoro

Quote from: Armphid on November 30, 2020, 12:35:32 PM
Thank you!  Though that brings up another question.

From what you said, in this universe, Juggernaut is a mutant.  As such, what are the upper bounds of his power?  Is he as truly unstoppable as the mystically empowered version of the character from the main 616 universe?  Or would he be more along the lines of someone like Colossus?

I don't know if he'll show up, I'm just curious as an X-fan.  Feel free to ignore if it's too minor a question!

Not sure about Juggernaut's power source yet because it brings up the question of Magik's. I would say that those mystical domains/entities do still exist because I don't want to take all of Magik's everything away from her. It also means that OC's can actually have 'magic' related mutations that work. So Juggernaut is probably still going to be powered by Cyttorak just maybe the connection was opened by a mutation this time.

As far as his power level he's still pretty much on track with 'real' Juggernaut. Nobody's going to be stopping him via physical force and even the strongest other brawlers are going to be holding him up for minutes at best.

Quote from: Kuroneko on November 30, 2020, 12:36:44 PM
Question, Sun. Is this a one character per player game, or can players have more than one character?

"This game will begin with a character limit of 3 per writer. Please only take on what you can consistently keep up with. There will be a limit of one Alpha-Level mutant per writer. There will be a limit of two teachers / students per writer meaning you can have up to two teachers and one student or two students and one teacher but not three of either."

Sorry to drop the quote, just the easiest way to get the info across. I know there's a lot of wordiness in the character creation. It's hard to draw a line between making it make sense, answer most questions and not be a giant wall of text. As well as making it helpful to those who don't know the comics and those who do.

Kuroneko

No worries on quote dropping. I must have missed that when I read the info last night. I was pretty tired when I read it, so my apologies for being redundant.

Then I'll say I'm interested in Forge as well a what we've discussed.
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Quote from: Kuroneko on November 30, 2020, 12:45:03 PM
No worries on quote dropping. I must have missed that when I read the info last night. I was pretty tired when I read it, so my apologies for being redundant.

Then I'll say I'm interested in Forge as well a what we've discussed.

No worries, it's easy to miss bits in a wall of text.

Awesome, happy to see Forge around.

Armphid

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Quote from: Kuroneko on November 30, 2020, 12:45:03 PM
Then I'll say I'm interested in Forge as well a what we've discussed.

Forge is awesome!  Awesome and criminally underused!  Good call, Kuroneko!

I thought of some more questions.  Feel free to PM me if I'm asking too many and tell me to shut my yap.

Are there mutant groups other than the X-Men/Brotherhood?  Like the Morlocks, Marauders, or other original groups?  Have mutants made an impact in other ways as part of any nation's Armed Forces or in the private sector?

How well known are the X-Men?  What is the general public perception of them?

How common is mutation?  Is it where most people have never actually seen a mutant in person or where most people have seen/know/know of a mutant personally? 
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Bibliophilia

I definitely want an OC on top of Gambit.  And using Vicki Odintcova for her.

I might adapt the elasticity stuff from my other character for her, but leave off the mimicry.

JessLowell12

Quote from: Sun Wukong on November 30, 2020, 12:02:38 PM
Thinking about an OC or someone canon?

Honestly not entirely sure yet, OC might be interesting. Not sure what to do in terms of power though. Maybe something Emma Frost like?

Or a Psylocke kind of character might be cool.


Totoro

Quote from: Armphid on November 30, 2020, 12:56:18 PM
Forge is awesome!  Awesome and criminally underused!  Good call, Kuroneko!

I thought of some more questions.  Feel free to PM me if I'm asking too many and tell me to shut my yap.

Are there mutant groups other than the X-Men/Brotherhood?  Like the Morlocks, Marauders, or other original groups?  Have mutants made an impact in other ways as part of any nation's Armed Forces or in the private sector?

How well known are the X-Men?  What is the general public perception of them?

How common is mutation?  Is it where most people have never actually seen a mutant in person or where most people have seen/know/know of a mutant personally? 

Nah the questions are good it'll let other people see the responses too.

Yes, there are other mutant groups. The Marauders work for Mr. Sinister who does exist but isn't known even to the X-Men. No way any PC's know of the marauders or Mr. Sinister because they haven't really started doing anything yet.

Morlocks exist and are in hiding. Only potential people who'd know they exist would be someone like Marrow or Callisto maybe.

I've also made sister schools exist as mentioned in the first post so there are groups of mutants in similar schools all over the world. Only about half a dozen in total. It just made sense to me and I like trying to make the world be more than just America.

There are mutants on Muir Island which includes holding facilities for a small number of mutant criminals. There is also a prison on Ryker's Island and The Ice Box in Canada which hold mutant criminals and have a few mutant guards on-hand.

On top of that Krakoa and Genosha exist and both have considerably higher than average mutant populations. However, they pretty much just keep to themselves and so are not overly publicized.

Mutants are barred from military service and there's some kind of international pact barring the use of mutant soldiers in armed conflict. This doesn't mean it's never happened, just that it's not allowed. Obviously, terror groups are not going to abide by this law and also armed conflict is exactly the kind of thing that might trigger powers, so someone's powers freshly triggering in the battlefield can't really be helped. They would then have to be honourably discharged (At least by the US Military - others have different outlooks.). I am sure some groups abuse these laws and fake someone's powers triggering mid-battle when in reality they knew exactly what they were doing.

Mutants are not allowed in law enforcement agencies and the only US-based group allowed to use mutant abilities in a combat situation are the X-Men. Some do break these rules and no doubt private security companies sometimes break the rules and try to hide it.

The X-Men have been operating since the 60's but only really became publicly known after X-Day on May 20th 1964 when Charles Xavier outed them as public knowledge. They are definitely extremely internationally famous. Members who were there at the start are internationally famous at least. Charles, Jean, Logan, Beast and probably a small few others are internationally famous. Charles tries to shoulder the brunt of that weight when it comes to press conferences and the like. Hank is a political ambassador for mutants but Charles is their main public ambassador.

Public perception is mixed. Some constantly decry the X-Men and mutants in general. Some say the X-Men need to be more like a proper police force. Others say they do an incredible job given the circumstances and the scale of the threat. They certainly keep the Brotherhood from doing anything extreme and so it's hard to really demonize the X-Men too much when they have very publicly averted a fair few near-disasters. That being said many want an alternative like the Sentinel program which is gaining support.

Not sure I want to attach numbers to the commonality of mutants. Most people have definitely seen one but probably don't even know it. Most mutants have near-useless abilities. To the point that it would be hard to parse if they are even a mutant or simply suffering another genetic condition. I'm going to be reworking the classes before I start looking at CS's to add some clarity to that. It's relatively rare to know a mutant with significant power because anyone with power would almost certainly be sent to go through education at Xavier's.

That said - it's not mandatory. Joining the school is optional unless someone is a danger to the public in which case it's an alternative to jail. IE 'You didn't mean to cause X damage, you can either go to the school and learn to control it or go to jail'. This means some students don't love being there but it beats jail so they have to be somewhat well behaved or risk getting jailed.

Quote from: Bibliophilia on November 30, 2020, 01:22:19 PM
I definitely want an OC on top of Gambit.  And using Vicki Odintcova for her.

I might adapt the elasticity stuff from my other character for her, but leave off the mimicry.

Sounds like a plan! Elastigirl it is.

Quote from: JessLowell12 on November 30, 2020, 01:29:29 PM
Honestly not entirely sure yet, OC might be interesting. Not sure what to do in terms of power though. Maybe something Emma Frost like?

Or a Psylocke kind of character might be cool.


Either is doable although definitely would need to be more low-key than Emma herself is going to be.

Pumpkin Seeds

Would the idea of a feral child work here?  I derived inspiration from Jet Li's Unchained movie and the idea I had was that this was a child born from one of Sabertooth's victims.  She was dumped as a toddler in the Everglades and became quite notorious until rescued by the Xavier Institute.  Power wise she'd be similar to Sabertooth with claws, healing and athleticism. 

Totoro

Quote from: Pumpkin Seeds on November 30, 2020, 01:45:02 PM
Would the idea of a feral child work here?  I derived inspiration from Jet Li's Unchained movie and the idea I had was that this was a child born from one of Sabertooth's victims.  She was dumped as a toddler in the Everglades and became quite notorious until rescued by the Xavier Institute.  Power wise she'd be similar to Sabertooth with claws, healing and athleticism.

Yeah, absolutely works here. Definitely tracks with the kind of thing Sabretooth would do and he'll be around so space for some issues there.

JessLowell12

I think I'm actually going to change gears from my usual psionics here.

How about a shadow based character in the style of kind of nightcrawler? Maybe vanish in one spot, appear in the next through a burst of smoke kind of deal.

I could just do a gender bent nightcrawler, slightly interested in seeing what that might look like. XD

Nowherewoman

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Quote from: JessLowell12 on November 30, 2020, 01:54:38 PM
I think I'm actually going to change gears from my usual psionics here.

How about a shadow based character in the style of kind of nightcrawler? Maybe vanish in one spot, appear in the next through a burst of smoke kind of deal.

I could just do a gender bent nightcrawler, slightly interested in seeing what that might look like. XD

You could do a gender-bent nightcrawler but I think an OC of the same species works fine since nightcrawler's not quite meant to be one of a kind anwyay.

Quote from: Nowherewoman on November 30, 2020, 01:55:17 PM
Thinking about this, as discussed.

Happy to have your interest!

Kuroneko

Quote from: Armphid on November 30, 2020, 12:56:18 PM
Forge is awesome!  Awesome and criminally underused!  Good call, Kuroneko!


I love Forge, and play him a lot :-)
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Quote from: Sun Wukong on November 30, 2020, 01:58:20 PM
You could do a gender-bent nightcrawler but I think an OC of the same species works fine since nightcrawler's not quite meant to be one of a kind anwyay.

Okay, I'm definitely going that route then, maybe a half-sister of Nightcrawler. :D

Totoro

Quote from: JessLowell12 on November 30, 2020, 02:25:14 PM
Okay, I'm definitely going that route then, maybe a half-sister of Nightcrawler. :D

Go for a paternal half-sibling so that Azazel is the father since that explains their nature.

JessLowell12

Quote from: Sun Wukong on November 30, 2020, 02:29:26 PM
Go for a paternal half-sibling so that Azazel is the father since that explains their nature.

Aye aye captain!

Father is Azazel confirmed!

Totoro

I have written up the below to help with figuring out classes when making characters for this game. If anyone isn't sure just ask me and I'll probably be able to assign a class. Most of the main X-Men are probably alphas/betas/gammas but deltas and epsilons are absolutely more than capable of joining the teams for missions. Their roles may be a bit more niche or at least more subtle but they're still relevant.

I am fully aware that Charles is rarely (If ever) classified as an Omega but in this case, he is one. His disability will have been the result of Magneto harming him and not related to his mutation.

As mentioned before no PC's will ever reach Omega level, they are more story elements that will require a good number of PC's to face.

Mutant Classification

There are several classifications of mutants as designated by the research started by Charles Xavier and Max Eisenhardt many decades ago and now continued by geneticists across the world. These classifications are not absolute and cannot ever be perfectly precise. They are only meant to give a loose, general indication of power and the mutant's visibility. It should be noted that it is more than possible for a mutant's category to change as their abilities to utilise their power grow. Many do not fully understand the scope of their own ability.

Omega: Omega-Level Mutants are the absolute pinnacle of a particular area. They may not be masters of all but they are a master of their particular field. The two most widely publicized Omega-Level Mutants are Charles Xavier (Professor X) as the pinnacle of telepaths and Max Eisenhardt (Magneto) as the pinnacle of Magnetokinetics. Jean Grey is theorized to have the potential for Omega-Level telekinetics and The Juggernaut's physiology is considered to be approaching if not already at Omega-Level. The only other known Omega-Level is known as Proteus and is held in a secure location on Muir Island.

Alpha: Alpha-Level mutants have a high power level and no drawback at all to their powers. They can also pass as an ordinary human. Jean Grey is currently considered to be an alpha-level mutant in both telepathy and telekinesis, a rare combination. Emma Frost is considered to be on a similar level. Their powers must have significant combat applications and they must be able to conceal themselves as an ordinary person. They must also be able to use their powers specifically when needed and have at least some control.

Beta: Beta-Level mutants have a high power level but at least some minor drawbacks to their abilities such as issues with control or reliability. Sabretooth would be a beta-level mutant as whilst his regeneration and physique are highly powerful he cannot control his regeneration and his sharpened teeth and nails mark him out as a mutant.

Gamma: Gamma-level mutants have a high power level but serious drawbacks and flaws to their mutation or obvious differences from ordinary humans. Hank McCoy or 'Beast' is an example of a Gamma-level mutant as his blue form immediately marks him out from ordinary people despite his powerful physique. As he has no ability to disguise himself as a normal person he is classed as Gamma-Level.

Delta: Delta-Level mutants are able to pass for ordinary humans. Their powers are more subtle than the above three in their application. Whilst they may be notably effective if utilized with skill and practice they are not as raw in their nature. It's possible for a delta-level mutant to not realize they are a mutant for some time.

Epsilon: Epsilon-level mutants are unable to pass for ordinary humans due to their mutation however they also do not have significant, immediately obvious combat potential. They may have strengths but they are minimal or come with severe drawbacks that limit their effectiveness.

Bibliophilia

So, would Gambit be Alpha or Beta?  'Cause I saw something that classified him as Beta due to his inhuman eyes.  I plan for my girl to wear colored contacts, but don't know if that shifts her from Beta to Alpha or not.

Scott's classified as Beta, due to his inability to 'pass', but also because he can't turn off the lazorz.  So, just need that clarified.  'Cause, if we're only allowed the one Alpha, then I need to decide if Gambit's worth the role for me, or if I want to let my OC be that.

Kadigan

I thought this might be apropos. The most amazing part is she found 7 other people who look exactly like her.



Totoro

Quote from: Bibliophilia on November 30, 2020, 03:46:30 PM
So, would Gambit be Alpha or Beta?  'Cause I saw something that classified him as Beta due to his inhuman eyes.  I plan for my girl to wear colored contacts, but don't know if that shifts her from Beta to Alpha or not.

Scott's classified as Beta, due to his inability to 'pass', but also because he can't turn off the lazorz.  So, just need that clarified.  'Cause, if we're only allowed the one Alpha, then I need to decide if Gambit's worth the role for me, or if I want to let my OC be that.

I would personally say Gambit is a Beta due to the eyes. Assuming you're not intending to really highball his powers. Highballed-powers Gambit is pushing Omega because he gets really silly at times but if it's just a more lowkey/normal interpretation I'm happy with him being classed as Beta here.

Since the contacts aren't something inherent to Gambit and if someone pulled the contacts out they'd be ID'd as a mutant.

Nowherewoman

So definitely working on putting together an OC Delta-level street kid who survived by being able to create temporary golems out of natural stuff around her to help defend her.

Secondary powers might include environmental awareness (like the stereotypical Native American trick of listening to the ground, only without the dirt in her ears), and animal friendship- your average watchdog won't attack her under normal circumstances, for example.
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Quote from: Nowherewoman on November 30, 2020, 04:28:24 PM
So definitely working on putting together an OC Delta-level street kid who survived by being able to create temporary golems out of natural stuff around her to help defend her.

Secondary powers might include environmental awareness (like the stereotypical Native American trick of listening to the ground, only without the dirt in her ears), and animal friendship- your average watchdog won't attack her under normal circumstances, for example.

Sounds like a good idea to me!