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Offline ElandraTopic starter

Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« on: May 15, 2008, 01:15:36 PM »
About twenty minutes ago the California Supreme Court struck down the same-sex marriage ban, making California the second state in the United States, behind Massachusetts to all for same-sex marriage.....FINALLY.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/15/BAGAVNC5K.DTL

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/15/same.sex.marriage/index.html

Offline Cherri Tart

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2008, 01:20:56 PM »
So, now the only question is, can i carry off white for a wedding dress, or should i go with hot pink instead? *giggles*

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2008, 01:40:30 PM »
In leather or rubber?  :D

Offline Celestial Goblin

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2008, 02:20:56 PM »
So very good for people in Cali:)

Offline Celestial Goblin

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2008, 02:29:00 PM »
How exactly will it affect conservatives? For them nothing changes.
Unless you equate conservatives with homophobes, which isn't so.

Offline Celestial Goblin

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 03:04:29 PM »
Huh, so you are against gay marriage or not then?

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 03:09:38 PM »
My two gay buddies get to be married now, hooray...but do I get to be the best man or maid of honor? ???

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 07:38:43 PM »
Hmmm... now I just need to drug Tom and tie him to the back of bus headed for Californy.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2008, 09:08:16 PM »
How's about we discuss the news portion over here (like how people think it'll affect California or whatever) and bring the general same-sex marriage debate over there to politics and religion? Thread is here: http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=15192.0

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 10:49:48 PM »
Kudos to California for doing the right thing, if not the popular thing.

(I have a co-worker who has been with his partner for over eighteen years, through good times and bad.  I look forward to the day when my state will permit them to have their lifetime commitment honored in the same fashion as mine.  It'll probably be a long, long wait...)

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2008, 09:27:06 AM »
About twenty minutes ago the California Supreme Court struck down the same-sex marriage ban, making California the second state in the United States, behind Massachusetts to all for same-sex marriage.....FINALLY.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/15/BAGAVNC5K.DTL

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/15/same.sex.marriage/index.html

Isn't there going to be a referendum though that will be binding, so this could be temporary, correct?

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 09:29:52 AM »
Unfortunately yes, mostly spearheaded by people who haven't read the decision and understood the point the majority was making.

The referendum may or may not pass, and the Governator is already on record as being non-supportive of same.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 09:31:43 AM »
That's what I thought. Seems to be the easiest way in most states to get the ban back on is to hold a plebescite. Worked extremely well here in Virginia. It passed overwhelmingly, although we already had a law on the books banning it anyway, it was more to reinforce the point.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2008, 09:34:07 AM »
Ahh, yes, the tyranny of the majority...  ::)  The reason why we have judicial review in the first place!

Offline Hunter

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 12:08:33 PM »
And...this'll end up at the Supreme Court.

Bets on winner?  Will it be the uptight conversatives or the whiny liberals?

Place your bets now!   :P

Offline Cherri Tart

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2008, 12:22:01 PM »
And...this'll end up at the Supreme Court.

Bets on winner?  Will it be the uptight conversatives or the whiny liberals?

Place your bets now!   :P

it better me the married couples or i'm succeeding from the union and moving to Canada! :P

Offline Swedish Steel

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2008, 12:25:23 PM »
My money's on the whiny liberals, seeing as California is chock full of them.

Oh, I see we are going to be the bestest of palls.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008, 12:28:48 PM »
Actually, Hunter me ol' chum, conservatives doing a lot of whining these days...and most of the liberals I know are kind of uptight.

In any case, it isn't really a 'lib' versus 'con' argument except for those who use the word 'activist' to mean 'a judicial decision I don't like'.

And speaking of those who cry 'activist' when the law does not go their way...

Joe, go read the decision.  Three of the four justices in the majority were appointed by a Republican governor, and they wrote a fairly tight opinion.  But hey, why let inconvenient facts get in the way of your opinions?

Offline Cherri Tart

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2008, 12:30:00 PM »
lol - i love you too, Joeseph - you DO know i get a vote in whether or not your approved, don't you? *grins*

love,
the whiney californian liberal :)

Offline Cherri Tart

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2008, 12:34:23 PM »
*smiles* actually, i was sort of pleased about being whiney, rather then uptight, so i'm not really all THAT put out ;D  and thanks for reminding me of who started all that whiney talk *Tags Hunter's rock with love and peace slogans*

Offline ElandraTopic starter

Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2008, 12:36:35 PM »
My money's on the whiny liberals, seeing as California is chock full of them.

In case you were unaware of it Joseph, it was the majority of Californians that enacted the law to begin with, it was amendment placed on the ballot and won with a majority, after four thousand couples were married at San Francisco City Hall step, several years ago. Generally California is a conservative state, with a heart of liberals centering around the SF bay area.

Offline Elvi

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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2008, 04:23:55 PM »
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080516/ten-uk-degeneres-marriage-baa80c0.html

Ellen DeGeneres to wed after gay marriage ruling

Reuters - Friday, May 16 06:24 pmLOS ANGELES (Reuters)

Comedian and talk show host Ellen DeGeneres plans to marry her long-time partner, actress Portia de Rossi, after a California court ruling allowing gay marriage.


"I am announcing I am getting married," DeGeneres, 50, told the audience during the taping of her "The Ellen DeGeneres Show" on Thursday. The show was due to be broadcast on Friday.



Well, lets hope she gets in quick then.....*smiles*



(And no Joseph, we the people, can object too....*rubs hands together and cackles*)

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2008, 10:22:47 AM »
Congradulations to all and to all a good day, get married quick then watch Cally throw it away. . .

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2008, 01:53:52 PM »
Go read the decision, Joe.  Not the media buzz--the actual decision.  It's online.  Grab a dictionary if you need one (most folks will).

READ it.  Carefully.  Pay attention to the logic followed by the court.  Try not to kneejerk--it'll be hard, but it's possible.

Then acquaint yourself with a few textbooks on civics.  Pay attention to concepts like judicial review and especially the notion of stare decisis.

After all that, consider what possible rights you think you have that you might be willing to surrender, without benefit of court oversight, should the majority decide that you belong to a group that doesn't deserve them.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage allowed in California
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2008, 02:25:11 PM »
My tenure doesn't enter into it.

If I'm a touch condescending, it's for the simple reason that you made a very bad impression a couple of nights ago.  A VERY bad impression. You may wish to avoid posting when you're sleep deprived.  :)  You do not come across as a reasonable and thoughtful person when you are sleep-deprived.

You're entitled to a different opinion.  Your right in this regard is well-established and thoroughly understood.  That's not why I'm growling at you.

That I suspect your opinion is based on a mere repetition of talking points from the media rather than a reading of the decision, now, that's another matter.

Is this distinction clear?