@ Iniquitous Opheliac
I saw that you responded to something I wrote above, which is fine, I just wanted to make sure you saw that the viewpoint I was explaining was not my own.
I'm going to try to say this without sounding disrespectful, because my intention is the exact opposite: to show you the respect that you're properly due. I think it's incredibly hard to criticize someone's behavior without disrespecting them in some way. I'm going to try to do that now, and if I fail, someone can tell me, and I will apologize.
I got the impression before that you had put enough thinking into your philosophical positions to form serious
ones -- meaning, ones you take seriously yourself, and ones you expect others to take seriously. The rhetorical strategy you're employing at the moment would suggest otherwise.
Assuming that you're addressing an audience of mature adults, sarcastically mocking sincere counter-arguments only damages your credibility and discredits your positions. I think you're smart enough to know that.
I wouldn't bother pointing this out in this way if I didn't already respect your viewpoint and disapprove of its being maligned by your current tactic. My suggestion would be that you cool off somewhere and come back with something more valuable to say, something that's worthy of a person with your intellect, rather than something that only scores points with less mature people.
Exelion, in case you read all of that closely, you may have noticed that I just intimated that you lack maturity. I may be wrong about that; I hope I am. But this line in your post displays rudeness and immaturity, so I don't see any reason not to point that out in a respectful manner:
Personally, if there IS a deity, and it decides to subject me to some hypothetical unending plane of torment after death because I didn't show up at the right building on the right day and say the right phrases...He's a moron, so to Hell with him! I figure if there's really a God they are a lot more relaxed than all that. I think one would HAVE to be.
I'll bet if you took the effort, you could come up with a much more intelligent way of basically saying the same things, without showing such flagrant insensitivity towards those with views different from yours. It's not your perspective that I think is immature but the way you chose to express it there. I hope you'll give that some thought and won't take offense at my remarks, because none is intended.
hesitant to post this post because I'm worried that people will think I'm looking down on DeMalachine or Exelion, when in fact my intention is just the opposite. I hope I made that sufficiently clear, because it's very important to me. If I made an immature remark or employed a self-defeating rhetorical strategy, I would hope that someone would attempt to respectfully inform me of my misjudgment, so that I could perhaps learn something from the exchange. I hope that we're all here for just that reason.
Let me know if that pissed anybody off, okay? :) Hope not.