Fuck it, it's my last post to this section, so I might as well make it long. (BTW, why do people read and respond to my posts, including some people who obviously disdain many of my stated views? Hell if I fucking know. I even tried asking those people not to read my posts, and hiding my posts from sight. No help I guess.) (I like to use foul language sometimes; I assume that's okay around here, as far as I know.)
By continuing to post that your beliefs is truth for each and every one of us, you are trying to force your beliefs on us.
This is flawed logic, again, because by telling me to not
say what I actually believe, you
are forcing one of your
beliefs on me
-- namely, your belief that each person's beliefs are true for that person and that person alone. I don't believe that about my beliefs. According to your logic, I would have to lie about what I believe or hide what I believe in order to "respect everyone else's right to choose their own religion." I think it's possible to treat people with respect without lying about what I believe or hiding it; I don't ask others to do that about their beliefs, nor do I want to do that myself.
It's really not at all important to me that you improve or straighten out your logic, but since you were apparently making claims based upon logic, it seemed like a worthwhile thing to point out that the logic was flawed. Logic has well-defined rules that can either be followed or broken. People sometimes think they are being logical even though the rules of logic say otherwise. Everyone does it sometimes.
It's become clear to me that minority viewpoints are not at all welcome at Elliquiy unless they're kept hidden. I've been pleasantly surprised recently to discover that there have been a few substantive discussions in the P & R section about various topics, but I think one reason for that is because the topics in question are not ones where the majority of Elliquians have the same view. When there is no majority view, a diversity of viewpoints can and does get expressed around here, sometimes at least. That's great to see. When there is a clear majority view, however, there is little support or encouragement for anyone who doesn't share it and dares to say so.
I find it highly ironic that the GBLTQA board was recently established and seems to be quite active, especially compared to many other parts of Elliquiy. "Tolerance" or "acceptance" of people with different sexual orientations is held up at Elliquiy as an important element of the site. I'm glad for that, partly because in the larger society, people who are not heterosexual are in the minority. I think it's great that those people are welcomed and made to feel comfortable at Elliquiy. But at the same time, the actual minorities within this site's membership are subjected to the same kind of discrimination and mistreatment that sexual or racial minorities often face in the larger society.
as important, of course; who cares if certain people at an RP site get discriminated against by being told to hide their views on certain things? It's a bit unfortunate for those people, but it's hardly as significant as real-life prejudice against minorities in the real world. I wouldn't ever
claim otherwise. That doesn't mean that it isn't still a form of prejudice.)
People with so-called "conservative" political, religious, social, or moral views are not made to feel welcome at all at Elliquiy unless they hide those minority views. Being open about having such views is a quick and certain way to get publicly and enthusiastically and unapologetically attacked, until one learns to clam up. It's the same fucking bullshit that makes some gay people stay in the closet in certain social settings. Bigotry and prejudice, the majority fucking over the minorities ... an old story and very hard to get away from ... even at Elliquiy, it seems. I think that's sad, but it can't be changed unless enough people with power over the site ever decide to change it. There appears to be no will or desire to do that around here. Instead people celebrate openness and acceptance and tolerance, while allowing prejudice to be openly practiced. Some people do that in the larger society too. It's just as hypocritical in either place; not just as important or damaging, though, of course.
That's okay, I guess. I'll just shut the hell up about my religious views and focus on other things, like RPing, assuming that I can still find partners. (I'm counting on the fact that not everybody reads this section of the site! Fingers crossed.)
I have heard your reasons and simply disagree. Your choice/reasoning/logic...whatever you want to call it, pretty much goes against everything I believe so I see no reason to discuss it further. I am not trying to debate your reasons for being a Christian. I was merely trying to demonstrate why other people were offended. You have admitted it was offensive, yet you continue. Have you been tasked with saving our souls? Consider that you are doing the exact opposite of what you hope to accomplish. You are pushing people away. Don't tell people what is true or what to do. Be an example. Let others decide on their own.
Et tu, MasterMischief? When people as friendly and likable as you feel compelled to speak out against my attempts to be open about my beliefs, I know it's way past time to throw in the towel. So be it, I won't post to this section of the site again. Anyone else who says anything in response to anything I've written in these threads will not get a public response from me. I wish I could say I was happy about it. No big deal though.
Thanks for reading my posts (assuming you don't hate me or anything) and sorry if I said anything that pissed anyone off. Yes, I just apologized again, one last time, fucking deal with it.