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Author Topic: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity  (Read 5775 times)

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Offline Lyell

Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2010, 08:24:33 PM »
Ah yes. The backwards and medieval nordic countries spring to mind, and the pathetic and anaemic economies of countries like Germany and France with all their collective and socialised endeavours! It's also abundantly clear that no socialist country could ever amount to a superpower or develop nuclear weapons! And the idea that a socialist country could ever have an economic growth worth a damn is laughable.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that zone of the world facing a debt crisis?

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Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2010, 08:25:32 PM »
Uh, is there a part of the world that's not facing a debt crisis right now?

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Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2010, 08:28:16 PM »
Point, taken. Some are markedly worse off than others though.

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Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2010, 08:32:30 PM »
Indeed. Globalization allows for some pretty amazing things, but man does it suck when things go shitty.

Offline Serephino

Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2010, 09:27:59 PM »
All I know is I'm getting really sick of the attack ads.  All they do is make me want to go to my polling place and write in Daffy Duck for every office.  Each candidate claims they are going to change things (jumping on the change bandwagon to help themselves I think), but none of them is doing anything different.

I hardly know where any of them stand on anything because each and every add is about how this candidate did this and that, and if elected would do blah blah blah, which will kill jobs, so I shouldn't vote for him.  I'm also quite sure at least half of it are either lies, or things blown way out of proportion.

I wonder what would happen if nobody voted.  It probably wouldn't be possible, but still, it would make a statement.     

Offline Wolfy

Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2010, 09:32:19 PM »
Ah - so they weren't simultaneous.  *is enlightened*

It looks to me like Stewart and Colbert could have taken Glenns rally, though.


And honestly..how many of those people at Beck's rally do you think were actually just there to watch him be an idiot? If the two Rallies had been on the same day, I doubt Glenn would have had even half the number of people that were there.

Offline Wolfy

Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2010, 09:34:11 PM »
"Do you want to stop sharia law? Support Separation of Church and State"

Another sign from the Rally.

^-^

Online TheVillain

Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2010, 09:55:14 PM »
It looks to me like Stewart and Colbert could have taken Glenns rally, though.


And honestly..how many of those people at Beck's rally do you think were actually just there to watch him be an idiot? If the two Rallies had been on the same day, I doubt Glenn would have had even half the number of people that were there.

Makes me wonder how many people were there because it was the anniversary of MLK's "I Have A Dream" speech and never even heard of or hated Beck, but got counted anyway.

Offline dominomask

Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2010, 10:01:09 AM »
I did a little reading, but got bogged down in the legalese.  I couldn't quite make out why attack ads are 'okay' under this ruling, and supporting ads are limited.

The short version is that there is a specific kind of organization, a 501 c 4, that must be chartered and operated for the improvement of the "public good".  They get tax exempt status, and, more recently, are exempted from needing to disclose their sources of revenue.  The justification of this (which I find a little meh) would be that it would allow "whistle blowers" to get a message out for the public good without fear of repercussions. 

This means that if you just run attack ads meant to "enlighten the public" about how a certain politician or political party or proposed measure is the work of the devil, that's fine, but if you advocate for a specific candidate, you're clearly operating for the benefit of an individual rather than the public which doesn't qualify for the tax-exempt/non-disclosure status.

Companies that know that they can pour donations into a crepe-paper "organization" dedicated to making attack ads to torpedo candidates and measures that are pro-worker or pro-regulation without worrying about the public knowing about their leanings, without worrying about potential boycotts and the like, are apparently happy to do so.

The conservatives have gone really really berzerk with this practice this election, but in fairness, the liberals did it first (and got in trouble, and stopped).

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Re: John Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity
« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2010, 10:11:30 AM »
Berserk is right, and I'm seeing it on both sides of the fence.  It's at the point where I don't know where any of the candidates stand on any of the pertinent issues, and I may end up picking whoever had the most positive ads (I did see a few).