Exalted vs World of Darkness

[AndyZ]

Speaking of gear do brass knuckles or any variants use melee skill?

And how do you want to handle weapons not on the chart?  Use the stats of the weapon closest to it?

Brass Knuckles would be one of the very few that uses Brawl.  The rest would use Melee.

If you want something that doesn’t exist, I’ll try to come up with stats, which may well be duplicate stats to another weapon.

Also, you don’t want nunchucks.  If you don’t know why, watch the Shadiversity video.

  Not sure what your idea/request was, Andy? 

  I thought I would play Tarnsman when he was around? 

When I first read your request, I was going to say yes and wrote up Vyx as a character who would easily fit.

If you just want to play this guy, should be okay.  Starting stats for the Virtual Adept.  I at least want to know Spheres, and stick with Correspondence; Data gets problematic as an obvious late game addition.

Shadowfox: A gun that can be changed from one type of gun to any other is a three point Wonder.  You’ll want to keep it concealed both before and after the process or else it gets a bit…wonky.  I’m thinking the one you have is actually standard government issue for a high enough agent and can be controlled through a Bluetooth app; before you Exalted, you may have thought the nanites were entirely mundane, but they set off the supernatural senses also.

Hairy, I imagine there’s been plenty of times when a particular person or others has set off your supernatural senses, but definitely no guarantee you know what they are, or that they know about you, unless you do something supernatural to let them feel it also.  Let me think on the supernatural factions; having people already established not only will be harder for me but especially for you when you’re new with the World of Darkness.

Did I miss any questions?

[ShadowFox89]

Shadowfox: A gun that can be changed from one type of gun to any other is a three point Wonder.  You’ll want to keep it concealed both before and after the process or else it gets a bit…wonky.  I’m thinking the one you have is actually standard government issue for a high enough agent and can be controlled through a Bluetooth app; before you Exalted, you may have thought the nanites were entirely mundane, but they set off the supernatural senses also.

Hmm... if it's something like that, maybe stored as a bracelet or something? Could take a mote to activate and another to change to a different weapon.

[HairyHeretic]

Hairy, I imagine there’s been plenty of times when a particular person or others has set off your supernatural senses, but definitely no guarantee you know what they are, or that they know about you, unless you do something supernatural to let them feel it also.  Let me think on the supernatural factions; having people already established not only will be harder for me but especially for you when you’re new with the World of Darkness.

No problem. He will know vampires at least exist, since that would have been the catalyst for his Exaltation .. would that be okay?

In terms of a magic item, I  was thinking a weapon of some kind. Maybe a walking stick that can extend into a quarter staff or something similar. I don't know what kind of powers it could have though, but that seems reasonably concealable (in mundane terms).

[AndyZ]

Hmm... if it's something like that, maybe stored as a bracelet or something? Could take a mote to activate and another to change to a different weapon.

3 points is higher than I feel is appropriate for this particular item’s usual function anyway.  (If you’re curious, it’s Matter 3, with an addition of Prime 2 for the extra ability I’m going to give to balance it.  Highest Sphere being 3, it’s a 3 point Wonder, and you should have to roll 3 dice but beh.)

The item has a single “default” setting with a default mass for a type of weapon, and it can decrease without issue, but when it increases beyond the mass of the old size, the nanites have to go into overtime by using air molecules.  Ultimately, it has a special battery for those occasions, which requires very specific charging.

Upon being Exalted, let’s say you tried supercharging it with pure Essence in a crisis, maybe even your Exaltation.  The battery is now stuck and fused into the device, but you either no longer ask for replacements (no guarantee others will work the same) or your paperwork hasn’t gotten through for giving you a new one yet.

Remember that mass=weight, so you can find out how heavy guns are and pick something you like.

No problem. He will know vampires at least exist, since that would have been the catalyst for his Exaltation .. would that be okay?

In terms of a magic item, I  was thinking a weapon of some kind. Maybe a walking stick that can extend into a quarter staff or something similar. I don't know what kind of powers it could have though, but that seems reasonably concealable (in mundane terms).

Oh, I forget the specifics on that (will reread later) but I had a few thoughts.

Vampires are as vehement about the Masquerade as Scions in your game.  Maybe you know someone who was going to be turned, and they want to kill her because she refused.  An Eclipse can certainly sanctify an oath  that she won’t tell others about the supernatural world that the vampire feels shouldn’t know, and having another supernatural being as a caretaker will keep her quiet.  He didn’t want to have to kill her - he wanted to spend the Endless Nights with her - but the Masquerade is inviolate.  She doesn’t want to speak to him again because he was going to kill her, but will keep the secret.

As far as a weapon, let’s give you this:



I’m giving it identical stats to a knife: difficulty 6 (standard for WoD), damage +1L (identical to an iron staff, and really means Strength + successes to hit the target), concealment P (small enough to hide in a pocket)

Having it do aggravated damage instead of lethal would be a 2 point Merit just like for our Dawn, except that yours has faint engravings of the writing of Sun Tzu in their proper language, going all the way down the length, about when to fight and when not to fight.

I figure that it’s been sitting in your lost and found box since before your Exaltation with no owner, and nobody knows who put it in there or come to collect, but it didn’t become up for grabs after the 30 day mark until just a day or two ago.

Alternatively, it was left in a locked drawer in your locked office, but I figure not to make your character needlessly paranoid yet.

[Muse]

Ooh!  lol  Awesome staff, i want one!  :) 

Have fun with it Hairy! 

Time for me to start looking at Solar Hero Style in ExVs.WoD. 

Andy did you want to do this mage of yours as a shared character?  I mean, we could bring her in that way and have Tarnsman as a mentor?  *shrugs*  Even roll playing against myself, it can be really fun RPing a sweet guy who's dominant online and now has to see if he can be that only person in real life. 

[HairyHeretic]

Oh, I forget the specifics on that (will reread later) but I had a few thoughts.

This is what I had initially written

Tentatively thinking he was hitting on a girl in a club, she got led off by tall, dark and gruesome, and when he followed them outside he saved her from being an involuntary blood donor, Exalting in the process. She was family to a high ranking crime boss, some of her entourage saw what happened (including the supernatural weirdness) and dragged him off to talk to daddy, whereupon he found himself being sworn in.

But I've toned that down a bit to him being an honorary member of the gang (was thinking a Triad, but that's easily adjustable, depending on the makeup of the city) .. they make sure no one messes with his business, and occasionally call on him when weird shit crops up.

Part of the reason I was thinking Triad is so I can take this guy as a henchman



Because no one could hench like this man 

Vampires are as vehement about the Masquerade as Scions in your game.  Maybe you know someone who was going to be turned, and they want to kill her because she refused.  An Eclipse can certainly sanctify an oath  that she won’t tell others about the supernatural world that the vampire feels shouldn’t know, and having another supernatural being as a caretaker will keep her quiet.  He didn’t want to have to kill her - he wanted to spend the Endless Nights with her - but the Masquerade is inviolate.  She doesn’t want to speak to him again because he was going to kill her, but will keep the secret.

See above.

As far as a weapon, let’s give you this:



I’m giving it identical stats to a knife: difficulty 6 (standard for WoD), damage +1L (identical to an iron staff, and really means Strength + successes to hit the target), concealment P (small enough to hide in a pocket)

Having it do aggravated damage instead of lethal would be a 2 point Merit just like for our Dawn, except that yours has faint engravings of the writing of Sun Tzu in their proper language, going all the way down the length, about when to fight and when not to fight.

I figure that it’s been sitting in your lost and found box since before your Exaltation with no owner, and nobody knows who put it in there or come to collect, but it didn’t become up for grabs after the 30 day mark until just a day or two ago.

Alternatively, it was left in a locked drawer in your locked office, but I figure not to make your character needlessly paranoid yet.

Minbari fighting pike  .. I'm good with that. Lethal damage will be fine (I presume I can choose to do bashing with it if I don't want to kill someone?) Can you think of any other interesting or useful abilities it could get?

[AndyZ]

I will get to these in the morning because they more thought than I can do right now, but I forgot to say: our Night’s weapon gets agg also.  Muse, I have more to say but the EvEoD book explicitly suggests that Merit from W20.  Hairy, let’s say that it can choose to do bashing without a damage reduction (not in the rules, but



Unlike cruel STs who require that you sit at a tabletop, I require only that you kneel.)

The weapon just seems to sense when you’re trying not to kill, and it’s hard to tell what exact kind of metal it is, but it seems to get a little wonky unless you either work it into your Stunting somehow or don’t rapidly switch back and forth between targets.  EDIT: Another exception is if you’re flaring.

Fair’s fair, so our Dawn should get something too, but I haven’t figured out what.  It should be similar of “when you’re awesome enough to cause it to apply and inherent to your nature.”  If you want, I’ll allow it to burst into weak flame when your anima is going, visible but hard to actually get it to catch and not too hot to handle when you have some good leather gloves on.  EDIT: No change in damage, no additional fire damage, and setting fire to something is a deliberate effort.

As said, more in the morning.

[Muse]

Ooh!  Yes! I'm not going to start with it, but we have tthe charm You Can Be More in here! 

And if i get 5 sucesses they Awaken as a mage!

[Hexed]

Brass Knuckles would be one of the very few that uses Brawl.  The rest would use Melee.

If you want something that doesn’t exist, I’ll try to come up with stats, which may well be duplicate stats to another weapon.

Also, you don’t want nunchucks.  If you don’t know why, watch the Shadiversity video.

Oh yeah. Not nunchucks. Those things hurt. I had a set and trying to get used to them you hit yourself so damn much. :)

One of the pictures I'm looking at has heavy reinforced gloves that reminded me of sap gloves which is why I asked about brass knuckles and variants.

The other idea I had was to drop the bat and go with a chain. Can just wrap it around her when not in use and grants some lethal option with a bit of 'reach'. Planning on the Edge of Morning Sunlight charm so a weapon that 'burns' is actually kinda fitting.



@HairyHeretic the henchman looks familiar? Is he from a movie or tv show?

[AndyZ]

Hexed, I see you and will think about it in the morning.

Ooh!  Yes! I'm not going to start with it, but we have tthe charm You Can Be More in here! 

And if i get 5 sucesses they Awaken as a mage!

Yep, and having a Trad ally means you’ll be able to get them fun allies and teachers.  I figure about 90% of people can handle being Trad mages without much issue.

[ShadowFox89]

@Andy sounds like Complex Transmutation combined with I think, Construct Pattern? It's been a long long time since I've played Mage and I'm glad we aren't going up against them because I did not take any Shaping resistance charms.

[AndyZ]

So that I do not forget:

https://discord.gg/rkQ8ujkX

If we get all five people, epic, and if not, I’ll shut it down.  I forget who didn’t answer or why and have too much to catch up on while not enough energy to do it.

Don’t ask any rules questions in Discord until we have the confirmed five.

[AndyZ]

Ooh!  lol  Awesome staff, i want one!  :) 

Have fun with it Hairy! 

Time for me to start looking at Solar Hero Style in ExVs.WoD. 

Andy did you want to do this mage of yours as a shared character?  I mean, we could bring her in that way and have Tarnsman as a mentor?  *shrugs*  Even roll playing against myself, it can be really fun RPing a sweet guy who's dominant online and now has to see if he can be that only person in real life.

Another thing I wanted to suggest if you don’t plan to go combat heavy: invest in Firearms and stand in the back.

Let’s go with Arete 2 Correspondence 2 Mind 1 Prime 1, and very obvious instruments are programmed apps on his phone, such as being able to check someone’s aura.  (As a technomancer, he’ll probably call it the biolelectric field or such.)  As explained in the EvWoD book, Anna’s aura looks like it does when she’s flaring.

Beyond that, I can just give you some info he’ll have from time to time when you can use the judge.  Virtual Adepts may WANT to say that information is supposed to be free, but the people with information who give it freely quickly learn that it’s not just as rapidly returned, especially by other Traditions.

This is what I had initially written

Tentatively thinking he was hitting on a girl in a club, she got led off by tall, dark and gruesome, and when he followed them outside he saved her from being an involuntary blood donor, Exalting in the process. She was family to a high ranking crime boss, some of her entourage saw what happened (including the supernatural weirdness) and dragged him off to talk to daddy, whereupon he found himself being sworn in.

But I've toned that down a bit to him being an honorary member of the gang (was thinking a Triad, but that's easily adjustable, depending on the makeup of the city) .. they make sure no one messes with his business, and occasionally call on him when weird shit crops up.

Part of the reason I was thinking Triad is so I can take this guy as a henchman



Because no one could hench like this man 

See above.

Minbari fighting pike  .. I'm good with that. Lethal damage will be fine (I presume I can choose to do bashing with it if I don't want to kill someone?) Can you think of any other interesting or useful abilities it could get?

I don’t honestly know enough about the different types of mafia, and it kind of baffles me that they seem to remain racially divided.  Simple logic suggests that a meritocracy works best regardless of race and that America would form its own group, especially when trying to deal with the supernatural, of which they’re canonically aware and recognize their usual inferiority.

Remind me to talk to you about the Ties Merit from M20 Core.  It’s 3 points and easy to forget since M20 Core has so few.

Minbari Fighting Pike: It was less than a year from seeing it in B5 to seeing the real life version that is genuinely up for sale.  You can buy them RL if you want one.

I’ll put up a full write up later regarding Wonder balance.

Oh yeah. Not nunchucks. Those things hurt. I had a set and trying to get used to them you hit yourself so damn much. :)

One of the pictures I'm looking at has heavy reinforced gloves that reminded me of sap gloves which is why I asked about brass knuckles and variants.

The other idea I had was to drop the bat and go with a chain. Can just wrap it around her when not in use and grants some lethal option with a bit of 'reach'. Planning on the Edge of Morning Sunlight charm so a weapon that 'burns' is actually kinda fitting.



@HairyHeretic the henchman looks familiar? Is he from a movie or tv show?

As I remember, Shadiversity said that even Bruce Lee said that he still ended up hurting himself with nunchucks.

Should the sap gloves do lethal or bashing?

As far as the chain, I can figure out stats for one if desired.  The Wonder can be anything that does lethal damage by default, if you want something besides the crowbar.

Also agree that Hairy’s picture looks like he really knows his way around a hench.

@Andy sounds like Complex Transmutation combined with I think, Construct Pattern? It's been a long long time since I've played Mage and I'm glad we aren't going up against them because I did not take any Shaping resistance charms.

I forget the precise names anymore, just the list of how high you need with what to do what.  Mages, like Sidereals, usually work best when they’re only NPCs.

[AndyZ]

So, all the items I’ve given out so far have been one of two Mage type: Talismans (Technomancers call them Devices) or Trinkets.

A Trinket gets a single power that’s usually always on, and maybe you can turn it on and off.  Maybe you have it do agg, or the clothing provides armor soak, or a pair of sunglasses can give night vision or show auras.  If it has multiple powers, you buy multiple powers.

A Talisman is harder to make because the mage doing so invests a point of permanent Willpower into them.  (Devices can work around this if you have extensive enough machinery for mass production.)  These you actually activate to do their multiple abilities, and how you activate them is by rolling their rating at difficulty 7.  A Mage who botches this roll can choose whether to accept the Paradox, or, like everyone else has to do, let it build up in the item.  If it’s not purged very regularly, it’ll likely explode.

Talismans and Devices which have their own Arete pool continue to use that pool. If a Wonder has a Quintessence pool, the Exalt may refill it by feeding the device her own Essence (each point of Essence re- stores two Quintessence). Any Paradox generated by a Talisman or Device used by one of the Chosen is in- flicted on the Wonder, not the Exalt using it (see M20 Book of Secrets, p. 150). After leaving a Wonder with- in a Dragon Nest for at least a week, an Exalt may at- tempt to commune with it and cleanse it with her own Essence, rolling her Essence rating against difficulty 7. Each success purges one point of Paradox. She can’t attempt this again until the Wonder has bathed in the power of the Dragon Nest for at least another week.

If we go by standard rules, either you get one power that doesn’t have to be rolled, or after each roll, you’re looking at some not-so-fun downtime while your item is useless.

The way I’m thinking, Exalts break the rules, especially during their Exaltation, and attunement is certainly a thing.  Allowing some sort of mostly mechanically insignificant epic from a particular Wonder in a way that fits a Caste seems a fun addition, and the various balances I’ve thrown in for our Night seem pretty fair.

I figure that’ll help keep in the loop for why I’ve been doing things as I have.

[HairyHeretic]

@HairyHeretic the henchman looks familiar? Is he from a movie or tv show?

*grins* Oh, just one or two

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0502959/

Any action movie of the 80s or 90s, if you needed an asian bad guy / henchman, this was your guy. He was also Genghis Khan in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

[HairyHeretic]

I don’t honestly know enough about the different types of mafia, and it kind of baffles me that they seem to remain racially divided.  Simple logic suggests that a meritocracy works best regardless of race and that America would form its own group, especially when trying to deal with the supernatural, of which they’re canonically aware and recognize their usual inferiority.

I think a lot of it comes down to homeland type traditions and loyalty to the organisation. Someone who hasn't been raised in that environment isn't going to have the same instilled sense of loyalty.

This is one I thought would work okay for my purposes

Celestial Way Triad - Tian Dao Man: Strength: several hundred members, mostly native Taiwanese. Activities: debt collection, massage parlors, brothels, small businesses.

IRL I believe they're only active in Taiwan, but they're small enough to drop into any big city as is, and they're not tied to the worst types of criminal behaviour.

Remind me to talk to you about the Ties Merit from M20 Core.  It’s 3 points and easy to forget since M20 Core has so few.

Sure. I was looking at those guys as maybe Allies (1)

Minbari Fighting Pike: It was less than a year from seeing it in B5 to seeing the real life version that is genuinely up for sale.  You can buy them RL if you want one.

I doubt they'd be very good. They look fine in the video, but they'd have to be very thin material to be able to compress as much as they do, so I don't think they'd stand up to actually fighting with them unless they were magically reinforced :)

I’ll put up a full write up later regarding Wonder balance.

Ok.

Any concerns about any of these Merits?

Eidetic Memory (2-pt. Merit)
Smooth (1-pt. Merit)
Socially Aware (2-pt. Merit)
Iron Will (3-pt. Merit)
Brigid’s heir (3pt. merit)

[Hexed]

As I remember, Shadiversity said that even Bruce Lee said that he still ended up hurting himself with nunchucks.

Should the sap gloves do lethal or bashing?

As far as the chain, I can figure out stats for one if desired.  The Wonder can be anything that does lethal damage by default, if you want something besides the crowbar.

Also agree that Hairy’s picture looks like he really knows his way around a hench.

I need to watch more of Shadiversity's stuff. Hella good advice and info from him most of the time. His hobbit meal plan video was just pure hilarity.

Found a pic and it works. So what I was thinking of aren't sap gloves but steel knuckle or weighted knuckle gloves.

these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weighted-knuckle_glove
They're more defensive then brass knuckles spreading the damage out more but provide enough protection to allow blocking of strikes from bats and batons. They'd probably do bashing as opposed to lethal.

And yeah a chain would probably be a better melee weapon for biker lass. Easier to conceal, easier to carry, and extends her reach. Can't exactly stick a bat or crowbar in the saddlebag of a motorcycle.

*grins* Oh, just one or two

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0502959/

Any action movie of the 80s or 90s, if you needed an asian bad guy / henchman, this was your guy. He was also Genghis Khan in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

So that's why he looked familiar. Yeah, big hench vibes from the ultimate asian hench.

[AndyZ]

I think a lot of it comes down to homeland type traditions and loyalty to the organisation. Someone who hasn't been raised in that environment isn't going to have the same instilled sense of loyalty.

This is one I thought would work okay for my purposes

Celestial Way Triad - Tian Dao Man: Strength: several hundred members, mostly native Taiwanese. Activities: debt collection, massage parlors, brothels, small businesses.

IRL I believe they're only active in Taiwan, but they're small enough to drop into any big city as is, and they're not tied to the worst types of criminal behaviour.

Sure. I was looking at those guys as maybe Allies (1)

I doubt they'd be very good. They look fine in the video, but they'd have to be very thin material to be able to compress as much as they do, so I don't think they'd stand up to actually fighting with them unless they were magically reinforced :)

Ok.

Any concerns about any of these Merits?

Eidetic Memory (2-pt. Merit)
Smooth (1-pt. Merit)
Socially Aware (2-pt. Merit)
Iron Will (3-pt. Merit)
Brigid’s heir (3pt. merit)

Definitely understand the levels of corruption and evil for organized crime, especially when everyone has a different line, and I’ve been rewatching Jojo Golden Wind on that front.

I imagine the prostitutes come over from Taiwan with the understanding and consented decision “We’ll get you to America but you’re going to have to work.”  You may have heard of indentured servitude in America.

One of the core themes of Vampire is “a monster I am, lest a monster I become.”  The idea is that doing bad things help make sure that you don’t have to do worse things, and Exalts will help change this as much as they can, but it’s a process.


If you just want a single ally of moderate power, the Boss could well have assigned someone to you.  This is someone different from the henchman, right?


Eidetic Memory is a very standard Merit and fully acceptable.

By contrast, Smooth is one of the most broken and overpowered Merits I’ve seen.  A single point to subtract the difficulty of ALL Manipulation rolls by two?  I’d take that if I was playing a nun.  Definitely won’t be allowed.

Socially Aware is an odd one.  I’ve never seen someone roll for getting the feel of social interactions.  I guess it could be okay.

This version of Iron Will is very different from the traditional one.  Usually, it’s a 3 point Merit where you can spend a WP to negate direct mind control effects.  This one does seem okay, though.

Brigid’s Heir is fine.

[AndyZ]

Rewatching Return of the Jedi while trying to get over this illness:

“You can either profit from this or be destroyed.  It’s your choice, but I warn you not to underestimate my powers.”

Such an Eclipse line…

Okay, let’s check our biker.

For the sap gloves, I’m thinking diff 6 - Strength + 1B - Conceal P.  They probably take a turn to put on or take off, but also can block pretty much anything when our Dawn is using them, even bullets.

As far as the chain, I keep going back and forth and have decided to give you a choice.  Conceal J either way if you wrap it all up in your jacket, but either difficulty 6 and Strength +1L, or difficulty 7 and Strength +2L.  But it’s actually agg if that’s the Wonder.

You’re good with the concept that any damage from the flames (it may even be something that’s not quite flame and not quite sunlight) is calculated into the weapon and doesn’t do extra damage, but also doesn’t randomly ignite combustibles, right?

[Muse]

  i'm kind of wanting to Anna's wrist computer a wonder--if only a hypertech Device. 

  I don't really know what it would do, really?  Just, -1 DC to computer rolls?  And maybe extra dimensional wii fyi signal and/or battery that lasts for weeks?  :)

[Muse]

hey Hexed! 

if Anna si also Smol and able to get medieval, will i be horning in on your schtick? 

I mean, female and able to get medieval is part of her concept, but she doesn't _have_ to be smol?  (It was a request from the girl who inspired her.) 

[Hexed]

Okay, let’s check our biker.

For the sap gloves, I’m thinking diff 6 - Strength + 1B - Conceal P.  They probably take a turn to put on or take off, but also can block pretty much anything when our Dawn is using them, even bullets.

As far as the chain, I keep going back and forth and have decided to give you a choice.  Conceal J either way if you wrap it all up in your jacket, but either difficulty 6 and Strength +1L, or difficulty 7 and Strength +2L.  But it’s actually agg if that’s the Wonder.

You’re good with the concept that any damage from the flames (it may even be something that’s not quite flame and not quite sunlight) is calculated into the weapon and doesn’t do extra damage, but also doesn’t randomly ignite combustibles, right?

The gloves sound good! Being able to use them for blocking will be nice.


I'd go with the difficulty 6, str +1L for the chain. Making it a wonder was... 2 background points I think? I'll have to dig back and see.

And yeah, I'm good with the flames not adding to the damage.

hey Hexed! 

if Anna si also Smol and able to get medieval, will i be horning in on your schtick? 

I mean, female and able to get medieval is part of her concept, but she doesn't _have_ to be smol?  (It was a request from the girl who inspired her.) 

No horning in with that. She's not got the sole lock on small beaty bitch after all.

Speaking of small beaty bitch.

This is the pic I'd mentioned earlier

And a kinda evil looking one with full garb

[Muse]

Thansk!  And awesome images! 

I'm really not sure what her weapons are going to be...  If any! 

Honeslty, i kind of want to have her wear gloves like Tifa, only pink!

[AndyZ]

Forgive me for any text speech issues I can’t fix. I’m sorry, I’ll explain later, but it’s very clear right now that I’m not going to be able to handle this at the speed that everyone wants this game to be. Most of you have been patient and I appreciate it

[AndyZ]

Okay.  I didn’t know how long I was going to be and expected to need at least another couple days, so I locked this rather than letting it fill up with replies I couldn’t answer.

Anyone who checked my A&As could deduce that I only had free and easy access to one hand, so I couldn’t even type well enough to explain that.  (Try typing with only one hand, not dropping the phone, and not using the other hand even for holding the phone, and see if you can get much.)

The problem is, stuff like this keeps happening even when I thought the worst was over, and while most of you have either been fantastically patient, or just naturally courteous and didn’t even know I had cancer, I can’t make everyone in this group happy indefinitely.

After the second time trying and failing in a couple months, I realize how arrogant it is to think I can pull things off.  So I’m apologizing and shutting this down.