The Case for Abolishing ICE

Started by Skynet, June 24, 2019, 05:16:32 PM

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Oniya

ICE created a fake university to entrap immigrants on student visas - and bilk them out of money.

These students had come in legally on student visas.  After being enticed to attend Farmington University, which involved paying thousands in tuition, they were arrested and deported because the university was fake, which therefore invalidated their visas.
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Formless

Quote from: Oniya on November 27, 2019, 07:00:25 PM
ICE created a fake university to entrap immigrants on student visas - and bilk them out of money.

These students had come in legally on student visas.  After being enticed to attend Farmington University, which involved paying thousands in tuition, they were arrested and deported because the university was fake, which therefore invalidated their visas.

Let me see if I understand this.

ICE created a fake university to lure people outside of the US, so they could deport them out of the US and take their money in the process?

Is this what this is about?!

Oniya

At least some of the students were in the US already, but were at universities that had 'lost accreditation'.  These were people that had come to the US, and had begun the process of getting an education, but were now desperate to keep their student visas current so that they could finish the process.  They were lured to the fake school (which had been listed on the DHS site as 'accredited'), which then invalidated their visas.

They were lied to so that they didn't end up finding a real university to continue their studies, and now (since they were deported) may be unable to ever return to the US.
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Oniya

In other good news on this topic,

Greyhound is declaring that they will not consent to warrantless searches of any place that requires a ticket.

This includes buses, and the areas of stations that are beyond the ticket gate.
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Skynet

ICE is unsurprisingly negligent in regards to containing the spread of the coronavirus among those detained. They refused to grant masks to prisoners unless they signed a waver absolving their funding corporations of liability should they die from the virus. This requirement was lifted after many detainees refused to sign.

Source.

More than 1,000 people in custody have been diagnosed.

Tolvo

CW for Sexual Assault, Rape, Human Trafficking

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/documents-federal-agents-sex-trafficking-victims-70619440

HSI ICE Agents during an investigation of a group for trafficking women(Separate from consensual sex work) paid for the women they were supposed to be helping to have sex with them using tax payer money and indeed had sex, which was under coercion and as such was non-consensual. This on top of being morally repugnant also destroyed the case allowing the people they were trying to arrest for human trafficking to escape arrest. It should be mentioned this is standard protocol at ICE/HSI. And that the agents in question were officially authorized to do this according to internal documents. ICE needs to be abolished.

Skynet

I didn't know whether or not this would serve better in the general news or the Riot thread, but figured that keeping this as the all in one source for ICE is good.

Even though it's not in line with their normal duties, ICE as well as CBP has been deployed to various protest locations in the event that any protesters are undocumented.

A former high-ranking ICE officer pointed out that this is being done more for intimidation purposes than competence, as ICE is not trained in riot control.

QuoteBut the display of force seen this week has been shocking, said Peter Vincent, who worked as a chief counsel for the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement during the Obama administration.

"This is not the job of the men and women of ICE or CBP, this is not what they are trained to do, and this is not how their enforcement authorities should be deployed," Vincent said. "Indeed, these actions are specifically intended to intimidate and chill Americans into remaining silent in the face of obscene injustices."







Haibane

Gods.

Do we know what Biden's views are on ICE? Will its plug get pulled if he is elected?

Callie Del Noire

Quote from: Haibane on September 15, 2020, 05:57:59 AM
Gods.

Do we know what Biden's views are on ICE? Will its plug get pulled if he is elected?

I doubt ICE will be going away. Though at this point I’d say it should, as it seems riddled with a myriad of issues

Skynet

This is news from the beginning of this year, but I missed it and it's pertinent to post given the last bout of news.

The captain of an ICE detention center posted regularly on a Neo-Nazi website, making various bigoted comments.

Although he's been placed on administrative leave as a result, there's less and less plausible deniability regarding the organization's white supremacist influences and alliances, from the rank and file all the way up to the top.

Haibane

Quote from: Callie Del Noire on September 15, 2020, 08:38:23 AM
I doubt ICE will be going away.

I take it there are political reasons for that? I'm sitting here across a wide ocean bemused why it DOESN'T get shut down right now and a whole slew of people charged with dozens of crimes. How can a nation sit there and let this monster sustain itself?