Pathfinder SKYRIM: Land of the Linnorm Kings (CLOSED)

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Quasar

#75
May 24, 2017, 11:08:37 AM
Well, the investigator is certainly a step in the right direction, as would be a bard.  Based on your description of the character, the investigator as core of your character would be better, unless you're really set on item creation in which case it'll have to be the bard as they have the magic needed to make stuff.
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Krys

#76
May 24, 2017, 11:16:40 AM
As said, I'm not set on artificing. It's something I like to do to support the group, but such things can be acquired by a good merchant as well. Concerning bard... they tend to be rather... very niched. As much as I love my char to be able to sing, I'm really not much in the "charismatic bimbo"  thing.

Do you think the inspired blade swashbuckler would be needed to make survival easier? Or can a character work as well, who serves her group from the behind the strong shoulders of her friends?
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English isn't my native language. I'm deeply rooted in a culture with significantly different (much more direct) communcation strategies than typical for the extremely polite british or canadian cultures, or the "optimistic" approach often used in the USA. Additionally, I'm not neurotypical in several ways, warping my perception and communication to an even further degree.

But: my english is JUST good enough to lull many readers into a false sense of security. Think of it as the communicative equivalent to "false friends words" which, while extremely similar in outward appearance in two languages, mean something slightly but importantly different. Like "I want to become a steak" makes perfect sense to a german... that still would prefer not to be butchered.

So please, if you perceive my words as rude, my intentions as unemotional or just weird: ask me. I'm not always successful in my attempts to correctly guess the fluff and embellishments needed for successful communication. Not in my native german tongue, much less so in english. Please do not interpret them as bad intent, but feel free to ask for clarifications. I'll try my best to solve such misunderstandings, and learn to prevent them.

Quasar

#77
May 24, 2017, 11:26:10 AM
There's already a lot of PCs that can help in the survival department, so unless you're intent on having martially inclined character, there's probably no need.

One of the things I'd like to see in the game is characters relying on one another, rather than the all sufficient, all capable character ::)

If you're goal is to be a merchant princess that gets by on savvy and cunning, then go for that ;D
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Chulanowa

#78
May 24, 2017, 11:27:19 AM
Given that I came like this close to making Velta a Bard - battle axe and all! - i take exception to that characterization  ;D

If you're looking to do social skills and help party survival... have you considered paladin? It would actually bring a few missing pieces to the party, i think. We sorta lack any sort of moral compass here. Plus I would love to have someone able to make good use of Velta's Inspired Rage. it gives you the charisma and attendant skills, excellent defenses, and a solid offense as well.

clonkertink

#79
May 24, 2017, 11:36:49 AM
I think the skill-monkey side of the investigator is a pretty big addition to the pool of recruits here. We've got a lot of people well versed in the art of inserting pointy sticks into enemies. Now so much in the way of knowledge and trap disarming.


Krys

#80
May 24, 2017, 11:43:31 AM
Quote from: Chulanowa on May 24, 2017, 11:27:19 AM... have you considered paladin?

Honestly isn't there a max Int for any char relying on the fickle favoritism of those often more than just mildly annoying extra-planar beings of dis-appropriate power? ;)

As you might guess, I'm not good at playing religious chars. Eirian will be as close to a sceptic agnostic as you can be in a world were some "things" insist that might makes right and holy at the same time. :D
Disclaimer (WIP)
English isn't my native language. I'm deeply rooted in a culture with significantly different (much more direct) communcation strategies than typical for the extremely polite british or canadian cultures, or the "optimistic" approach often used in the USA. Additionally, I'm not neurotypical in several ways, warping my perception and communication to an even further degree.

But: my english is JUST good enough to lull many readers into a false sense of security. Think of it as the communicative equivalent to "false friends words" which, while extremely similar in outward appearance in two languages, mean something slightly but importantly different. Like "I want to become a steak" makes perfect sense to a german... that still would prefer not to be butchered.

So please, if you perceive my words as rude, my intentions as unemotional or just weird: ask me. I'm not always successful in my attempts to correctly guess the fluff and embellishments needed for successful communication. Not in my native german tongue, much less so in english. Please do not interpret them as bad intent, but feel free to ask for clarifications. I'll try my best to solve such misunderstandings, and learn to prevent them.

clonkertink

#81
May 24, 2017, 11:48:21 AM
Who needs INT when you have smite evil?


Chulanowa

#82
May 24, 2017, 11:56:40 AM
Beer is proof that Cayden Cailean exists and that he's at least somewhat fond of us. Except in the morning. he's grumpy in the morning. Just don't talk too loud before noon.

Krys

#83
May 24, 2017, 11:57:27 AM
Quote from: clonkertink on May 24, 2017, 11:48:21 AM
Who needs INT when you have smite evil?

said the necromancer. :D
Disclaimer (WIP)
English isn't my native language. I'm deeply rooted in a culture with significantly different (much more direct) communcation strategies than typical for the extremely polite british or canadian cultures, or the "optimistic" approach often used in the USA. Additionally, I'm not neurotypical in several ways, warping my perception and communication to an even further degree.

But: my english is JUST good enough to lull many readers into a false sense of security. Think of it as the communicative equivalent to "false friends words" which, while extremely similar in outward appearance in two languages, mean something slightly but importantly different. Like "I want to become a steak" makes perfect sense to a german... that still would prefer not to be butchered.

So please, if you perceive my words as rude, my intentions as unemotional or just weird: ask me. I'm not always successful in my attempts to correctly guess the fluff and embellishments needed for successful communication. Not in my native german tongue, much less so in english. Please do not interpret them as bad intent, but feel free to ask for clarifications. I'll try my best to solve such misunderstandings, and learn to prevent them.

Krys

#84
May 24, 2017, 11:59:45 AM
Chulanowa, I love your avatar btw. It's him, the lord of snake eyes, the majesty of games lost, the one and only most hated nerd kid in space ever, correct?
Disclaimer (WIP)
English isn't my native language. I'm deeply rooted in a culture with significantly different (much more direct) communcation strategies than typical for the extremely polite british or canadian cultures, or the "optimistic" approach often used in the USA. Additionally, I'm not neurotypical in several ways, warping my perception and communication to an even further degree.

But: my english is JUST good enough to lull many readers into a false sense of security. Think of it as the communicative equivalent to "false friends words" which, while extremely similar in outward appearance in two languages, mean something slightly but importantly different. Like "I want to become a steak" makes perfect sense to a german... that still would prefer not to be butchered.

So please, if you perceive my words as rude, my intentions as unemotional or just weird: ask me. I'm not always successful in my attempts to correctly guess the fluff and embellishments needed for successful communication. Not in my native german tongue, much less so in english. Please do not interpret them as bad intent, but feel free to ask for clarifications. I'll try my best to solve such misunderstandings, and learn to prevent them.

Chulanowa

#85
May 24, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
Quote from: clonkertink on May 24, 2017, 11:36:49 AM
I think the skill-monkey side of the investigator is a pretty big addition to the pool of recruits here. We've got a lot of people well versed in the art of inserting pointy sticks into enemies. Now so much in the way of knowledge and trap disarming.

Trap disarming is easy. Make the person with the most hit points walk in front. Traps solved.

And yes, that's Wil Wheaton, shilling 5th Edition at a PAX game  ;D

Chulanowa

#86
May 24, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
Also all things considered, I guess Velta can make a halfway-decent 'slab of beef" character for the party? I mean she will have Fast Healing II for most fights, in addition to medium armor, a constitution bonus, and a shield, I guess, if she has to?

Still, i'd like to have someone who can truly appreciate all the Rage Powers, combat bonuses, and teamwork feats she'll be sharing with the party  ;D none of the spellcasters will be able to, since Inspired Rage keeps them from casting spells if they accept the bonuses...

Krys

#87
May 24, 2017, 12:09:34 PM
So pure merchant-princess / skill monkey it is. Now into the books!
Disclaimer (WIP)
English isn't my native language. I'm deeply rooted in a culture with significantly different (much more direct) communcation strategies than typical for the extremely polite british or canadian cultures, or the "optimistic" approach often used in the USA. Additionally, I'm not neurotypical in several ways, warping my perception and communication to an even further degree.

But: my english is JUST good enough to lull many readers into a false sense of security. Think of it as the communicative equivalent to "false friends words" which, while extremely similar in outward appearance in two languages, mean something slightly but importantly different. Like "I want to become a steak" makes perfect sense to a german... that still would prefer not to be butchered.

So please, if you perceive my words as rude, my intentions as unemotional or just weird: ask me. I'm not always successful in my attempts to correctly guess the fluff and embellishments needed for successful communication. Not in my native german tongue, much less so in english. Please do not interpret them as bad intent, but feel free to ask for clarifications. I'll try my best to solve such misunderstandings, and learn to prevent them.

clonkertink

#88
May 24, 2017, 12:11:20 PM
Quote from: Chulanowa on May 24, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
Trap disarming is easy. Make the person with the most hit points walk in front. Traps solved.

I once played a half-orc Barbarian who took the Trap Wrecker feat. That was a good time.


Chulanowa

#89
May 24, 2017, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: clonkertink on May 24, 2017, 12:11:20 PM
I once played a half-orc Barbarian who took the Trap Wrecker feat. That was a good time.

Well, with this many spellcasters, I'm sure summon spells are also an option. Does that hallway look trapped? Just throw an extraplanar dolphin down there!

Krys

#90
May 24, 2017, 12:16:21 PM
Is there a way to circumvent alchemy all together with an investigator? I just dislike the d20 implementation of that skill.
Disclaimer (WIP)
English isn't my native language. I'm deeply rooted in a culture with significantly different (much more direct) communcation strategies than typical for the extremely polite british or canadian cultures, or the "optimistic" approach often used in the USA. Additionally, I'm not neurotypical in several ways, warping my perception and communication to an even further degree.

But: my english is JUST good enough to lull many readers into a false sense of security. Think of it as the communicative equivalent to "false friends words" which, while extremely similar in outward appearance in two languages, mean something slightly but importantly different. Like "I want to become a steak" makes perfect sense to a german... that still would prefer not to be butchered.

So please, if you perceive my words as rude, my intentions as unemotional or just weird: ask me. I'm not always successful in my attempts to correctly guess the fluff and embellishments needed for successful communication. Not in my native german tongue, much less so in english. Please do not interpret them as bad intent, but feel free to ask for clarifications. I'll try my best to solve such misunderstandings, and learn to prevent them.

Quasar

#91
May 24, 2017, 12:19:58 PM Last Edit: May 24, 2017, 12:21:51 PM by Quasar
Quote from: Chulanowa on May 24, 2017, 12:00:47 PM
Trap disarming is easy. Make the person with the most hit points walk in front. Traps solved.

And yes, that's Wil Wheaton, shilling 5th Edition at a PAX game  ;D
Newbies... search the chests and bags and crevices.

Savvy adventurers... search to the ceilings.

Veteran adventurers.... let everyone else go first.

Quote from: Krys on May 24, 2017, 12:16:21 PM
Is there a way to circumvent alchemy all together with an investigator? I just dislike the d20 implementation of that skill.
One of the archetypes should have something.  The only thing that comes to mind right now is one that changes alchemy for spells.

Edit: The sleuth archetype replaces alchemy for a more darin investigator.
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Chulanowa

#92
May 24, 2017, 12:22:44 PM Last Edit: May 24, 2017, 12:25:43 PM by Chulanowa
Quote from: Krys on May 24, 2017, 12:16:21 PM
Is there a way to circumvent alchemy all together with an investigator? I just dislike the d20 implementation of that skill.

Well, you can always just not take Craft: Alchemy. The Alchemist / Investigator class ability "Alchemy" is basically their version of spellcasting - you prepare extracts, which are basically potions only you can use.

If that's what you're trying to get rid of, there are a few Investigator archetypes that remove the Alchemy ability from the class, yeah. Sleuth, majordomo, and Spiritualist replace it outright, while Psychic Detective and Questioner replace it with Psychic and bard spells, respectively. I think there's one or two more in one of hte more recent books that hasn't been put on the resource sites yet as well.

Krys

#93
May 24, 2017, 12:44:56 PM
Sadly Psychic detective and Empiricist don't work together due to both replacing the posion stuff... which is great in itself as I dislike posion anyway but... hmmm.
Disclaimer (WIP)
English isn't my native language. I'm deeply rooted in a culture with significantly different (much more direct) communcation strategies than typical for the extremely polite british or canadian cultures, or the "optimistic" approach often used in the USA. Additionally, I'm not neurotypical in several ways, warping my perception and communication to an even further degree.

But: my english is JUST good enough to lull many readers into a false sense of security. Think of it as the communicative equivalent to "false friends words" which, while extremely similar in outward appearance in two languages, mean something slightly but importantly different. Like "I want to become a steak" makes perfect sense to a german... that still would prefer not to be butchered.

So please, if you perceive my words as rude, my intentions as unemotional or just weird: ask me. I'm not always successful in my attempts to correctly guess the fluff and embellishments needed for successful communication. Not in my native german tongue, much less so in english. Please do not interpret them as bad intent, but feel free to ask for clarifications. I'll try my best to solve such misunderstandings, and learn to prevent them.

Krys

#94
May 24, 2017, 02:09:21 PM
*laugh* And Questionier seems to fit even better, adding some musical aspect. But empiricist is just to fundamental to that concept... Sigh Poison Lore you evil thing. :/
Disclaimer (WIP)
English isn't my native language. I'm deeply rooted in a culture with significantly different (much more direct) communcation strategies than typical for the extremely polite british or canadian cultures, or the "optimistic" approach often used in the USA. Additionally, I'm not neurotypical in several ways, warping my perception and communication to an even further degree.

But: my english is JUST good enough to lull many readers into a false sense of security. Think of it as the communicative equivalent to "false friends words" which, while extremely similar in outward appearance in two languages, mean something slightly but importantly different. Like "I want to become a steak" makes perfect sense to a german... that still would prefer not to be butchered.

So please, if you perceive my words as rude, my intentions as unemotional or just weird: ask me. I'm not always successful in my attempts to correctly guess the fluff and embellishments needed for successful communication. Not in my native german tongue, much less so in english. Please do not interpret them as bad intent, but feel free to ask for clarifications. I'll try my best to solve such misunderstandings, and learn to prevent them.

Autocad

#95
May 24, 2017, 08:01:55 PM
Aww man I wanted to make a ranger but looks like I was beat to it!  :'(

clonkertink

#96
May 24, 2017, 08:03:44 PM
Give it a shot anyway!


Chulanowa

#97
May 24, 2017, 08:12:14 PM
Make a Slayer! Make a rogue! Make a Hunter! Make a FREAKIN PALADIN, someone, please!   O8)

clonkertink

#98
May 24, 2017, 08:15:21 PM
Chulanowa: Paladin Fetishist


Chulanowa

#99
May 24, 2017, 08:19:03 PM
Well, no, it's just that, you know... we have design space for one, is all... Squeeze one in, it's a nice fit, will feel... really nice...

I mean, what?
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