Breaking out of default https mode (Not about E)

Started by gaggedLouise, June 14, 2015, 08:27:54 PM

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gaggedLouise

So, like most people here I have Elliquiy set to secure connection mode (I think it's called that, it's when the address will always begin with https:// - higher degree of safety) and no trouble with that. The same with Gmail, Youtube, my internet bank and a couple of other sites. However, I noticed that some other sites now seem to load in that mode by default for me, which is unnecessary and a bit clunky. I rely a good deal on browser history to get back to specific pages within a site, perhaps a day or a week later; it's a very practical shortcut, the more so the more specific the page was on a large site, or when the precise name of the site is difficult to recall, but with secure mode turned on for a site, its pages just won't show up in the browser history field, at least not in Internet Explorer, sometimes not in Chrome either. So if it loads that way, there's no memory of the page to find it again later. 

I'm a bit puzzled why Wikipedia - in English, but not in other languages - and some web forums I'm frequenting are suddenly loading only over https. If I remove the 's' in the adress bar and load again, it reappears! This is not something I asked for or changed in the settings for those sites, and it isn't a browser-level issue: most pages still load in standard mode, over http as they always have. And it only happened in the last few days. I would appreciate any ideas about how to fix this. I really trust the security of those sites, and some pages simply won't load at all in https mode, so if this should spread it could become cumbersome, even apart from my losing the cache of "visited page bookmarks" created in standard mode.

Good girl but bad  -- Proud sister of the amazing, blackberry-sweet Violet Girl

Sometimes bound and cuntrolled, sometimes free and easy 

"I'm a pretty good cook, I'm sitting on my groceries.
Come up to my kitchen, I'll show you my best recipes"

Vekseid

Well if it still loads over http:// it's not STS in any case : / The world really is moving to https though.

gaggedLouise

Yes, I can see that. Found two tweaks (one on registry level, the other at Internet alternatives -> Advanced) to enable IE to save encrypted pages to the cache and history. I ran both of them an hour ago and rebooted the machine, but so far not getting anything SSL-protected to show up in browser history.

Good girl but bad  -- Proud sister of the amazing, blackberry-sweet Violet Girl

Sometimes bound and cuntrolled, sometimes free and easy 

"I'm a pretty good cook, I'm sitting on my groceries.
Come up to my kitchen, I'll show you my best recipes"

Vekseid

Well, the ability to cache stuff on E is because of a header I set. This is something the sites have to configure themselves.

gaggedLouise

So it could be that some other sites (e.g. Wikipedia and some parts of Ebay) have changed a couple of those headers recently, and that's why they are not getting cached anymore?

I noticed, in taking a look at my browser history, that some secure pages are actually getting cached, and have been all the time. Seems to square with what I read on one page, that the cache-or-not-cache thing isn't just a function of pages being sent in an encrypted manner or not.

Good girl but bad  -- Proud sister of the amazing, blackberry-sweet Violet Girl

Sometimes bound and cuntrolled, sometimes free and easy 

"I'm a pretty good cook, I'm sitting on my groceries.
Come up to my kitchen, I'll show you my best recipes"