What's in the news?

[Lustful Bride]

A priceless piece of art....ruined. It hurts to see such things :(

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/whats-hot/an-amateur-restored-a-500-year-old-statue-of-one-of-christianitys-most-important-saints-—-and-it-looks-terrible/ar-AAzcElL?ocid=spartandhp

[Sara Nilsson]

You would think they had learned by now. FFS. Stop letting amateurs do such jobs.

[Lustful Bride]

Mother shoots man who tried to break into her home and kidnap her daughter.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/he-flew-across-the-world-to-break-into-a-14-year-old’s-home-police-say-her-mom-shot-him/ar-AAzb2c0?ocid=spartandhp

[Skynet]

A priceless piece of art....ruined. It hurts to see such things :(

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/whats-hot/an-amateur-restored-a-500-year-old-statue-of-one-of-christianitys-most-important-saints-—-and-it-looks-terrible/ar-AAzcElL?ocid=spartandhp

Broken link.

Goddamn. The eyes alone push this into the Uncanny Valley.

[Oniya]

Just as a note, MSN has this annoying tendency to put apostrophes and em-dashes in their urls.  This will cause them to break if you just copy-paste the link from your browser.  If you actively put the [ url ] [ /url] tags around it, the forum software with be forced to interpret it correctly.

[Lustful Bride]

Just as a note, MSN has this annoying tendency to put apostrophes and em-dashes in their urls.  This will cause them to break if you just copy-paste the link from your browser.  If you actively put the [ url ] [ /url] tags around it, the forum software with be forced to interpret it correctly.

My bad, sorry. 

[Oniya]

Honestly, it's on them.  I've even gone so far as to use their 'feedback' app to rant about the problem.  How do you get people to visit your site if you can't format your urls to work?  O_o

[Missy]

//theres actually a button to add the code into your posts too. second row, second from left, directly above the text box.

[RedRose]

Broken link.

Goddamn. The eyes alone push this into the Uncanny Valley.

oh, ew

[Sara Nilsson]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html

Justice Anthony Kennedy, a conservative who provided key votes for same sex-marriage, abortion access and affirmative action, will retire from the Supreme Court.
The retirement is effective July 31, Kennedy said in a letter to President Donald Trump on Wednesday.

great so Trump can get another ultra conservative on the bench making any progress impossible from here on out. Fucking hell.

[Regina Minx]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/27/politics/anthony-kennedy-retires/index.html

great so Trump can get another ultra conservative on the bench making any progress impossible from here on out. Fucking hell.

But her emails!

[TheVillain]

I had a buddy who said before the election that his intention was to vote for Trump because he thought Trump would do so badly that it was going to force us as a country to start large chunks of our system over from scratch.

Well, wish granted I suppose. No way that's avoidable now.

[Cassandra LeMay]

great so Trump can get another ultra conservative on the bench making any progress impossible from here on out. Fucking hell.

Can't say I am surprised by Kennedy's retirement. Some of his writing in recent concurrences read like he wanted to get a few thoughts off his chest, almost like "end notes", closing remarks not so much to the opinions in question, but rather more general matters he considered important.

Doesn't look good for the future of SCOTUS, if one hopes for a balanced court.  Let's at least hope that Bader Ginsburg lasts a few years longer. At her age, who knows. *crosses fingers*

[Skynet]

I had a buddy who said before the election that his intention was to vote for Trump because he thought Trump would do so badly that it was going to force us as a country to start large chunks of our system over from scratch.

Well, wish granted I suppose. No way that's avoidable now.

What your buddy described is part and parcel of Accelerationism. This is a viewpoint in leftist theory that a worker's revolution can be "fast-forwarded" by making conditions so horrible that people view violence as the only legit option.

Naturally it's not a popular ideology, on account that to many perspectives there's not much difference between someone who supports oppressive policies because they want to enforce the status quo vs. one who does the same but instead does it as a "wake-up call." Look at Weimar Republic Germany; the status quo was replaced with something worse.

[HannibalBarca]

What your buddy described is part and parcel of Accelerationism. This is a viewpoint in leftist theory that a worker's revolution can be "fast-forwarded" by making conditions so horrible that people view violence as the only legit option.

It also fails to take into account those injured or killed or lives otherwise made worse by the conditions brought about.  It's the 'can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs' kind of response, most famously adopted by Karl Marx in his Communist Manifesto.  It reveals a shocking lack of empathy for the individuals caught up in the process of making sausage, to confiscate a metaphor.  It is how I can be a Socialist but despise Communism as it has cropped up throughout history.  It's scorched earth policy, and I hate it.

[LisztesFerenc]

What your buddy described is part and parcel of Accelerationism. This is a viewpoint in leftist theory that a worker's revolution can be "fast-forwarded" by making conditions so horrible that people view violence as the only legit option.

Naturally it's not a popular ideology, on account that to many perspectives there's not much difference between someone who supports oppressive policies because they want to enforce the status quo vs. one who does the same but instead does it as a "wake-up call." Look at Weimar Republic Germany; the status quo was replaced with something worse.

It also fails to take into account those injured or killed or lives otherwise made worse by the conditions brought about.  It's the 'can't make an omelette without breaking some eggs' kind of response, most famously adopted by Karl Marx in his Communist Manifesto.  It reveals a shocking lack of empathy for the individuals caught up in the process of making sausage, to confiscate a metaphor.  It is how I can be a Socialist but despise Communism as it has cropped up throughout history.  It's scorched earth policy, and I hate it.

  This seems to hinge on the idea that violence was the only way the America political system can change. During the election, there was a rhetoric I heard several times of "Sure, Hillary isn't the best candidate, but she's not Trump, so we have to vote for her". Which did raise the question "If I do this, what incentive do the Democrats have of ever giving us the best candidate if we prove now we will vote for whoever they nominate simply because its better than the Republican candidate?".

[Regina Minx]

  This seems to hinge on the idea that violence was the only way the America political system can change. During the election, there was a rhetoric I heard several times of "Sure, Hillary isn't the best candidate, but she's not Trump, so we have to vote for her". Which did raise the question "If I do this, what incentive do the Democrats have of ever giving us the best candidate if we prove now we will vote for whoever they nominate simply because its better than the Republican candidate?".

If the best candidate isn’t able to get more votes than the non-best candidate, in what way were they best?

[LisztesFerenc]

If the best candidate isn’t able to get more votes than the non-best candidate, in what way were they best?

  I don't get why you're asking me the question. "Hillary isn't the best candidate, but she is better than Trump so we have to vote for her" was literally a line used by Hillary supporters. Their argument aknolwedge, or at least seemed to, that Hillary wasn't the best candidate. I was explaining how such an argument to get people to vote for your candidate could backfire.

  As for what "best candidate" means, theres plenty of metrics by which someone can feel that a candidate with less votes is still better. Ideology, representative of change, strength on foreign policy, good looks (I didn't say all the metrics were good).

[Regina Minx]

  I don't get why you're asking me the question. "Hillary isn't the best candidate, but she is better than Trump so we have to vote for her" was literally a line used by Hillary supporters.

Just like you acknowledged that it all metrics are good, not all reasons to support a candidate are good ones. I voted for Hillary because I thought she was the better of the two candidates, with better qualifications, temperament, and values more closely aligned with my own.

Don’t just pick on the idiot in the room; make sure you steel man a group by finding its best representative, not its worst. It can be fun, and useful, to pick on the idiot. Quality entertainment. And educational. But if you don’t mention the people who came to the table with good reasons for supporting Hillary (or at least acknowledge them) you come across as someone who thinks the stupid reasons for supporting her were the only ones there were. Which makes you look disingenuous.

[Lustful Bride]

Welp, another data breach, again.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technology/a-new-data-breach-may-have-exposed-personal-information-of-almost-every-american-adult/ar-AAzgx4u?ocid=spartandhp

[LisztesFerenc]

Don’t just pick on the idiot in the room;

  I don't think people who said Hillary wasn't the best candidate but they were still voting for her were idiots. Its good to ackowledge that your candidate isn't perfect. I was simply pointing out how being open about it can backfire. I didn't hear many Trump supporters saying "Sure Trump isn't perfect, but lets vote for him anyway,". Maybe they did and I literally just didn't hear, but I only heard such rhetoric from Hillary supporters.

[Regina Minx]

I didn't hear many Trump supporters saying "Sure Trump isn't perfect, but lets vote for him anyway,". Maybe they did and I literally just didn't hear, but I only heard such rhetoric from Hillary supporters.

I guess Franklin Graham, the National Review, and Nevada Mormons doesn't count.

[LisztesFerenc]

I guess Franklin Graham, the National Review, and Nevada Mormons doesn't count.

  You had to manually select the part where I aknowledged "Maybe they did and I literally just didn't hear", delete it, and then pretend I never typed it. Why?

[Regina Minx]

  You had to manually select the part where I aknowledged "Maybe they did and I literally just didn't hear", delete it, and then pretend I never typed it. Why?

Brevity. Before you came to this post and started posting about how Hillary supporters were the only ones who were going to have to hold their nose and vote for a suboptimal candidate, did you check?

[Lustful Bride]

French President issues plan to reinstate the National Service for all French citizens at age 16.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/french-president-emmanuel-macron-is-reinstating-national-service-for-all-16-year-olds/ar-AAzgFpS?ocid=spartandhp