My Story Skeletons.
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These are skeleton frame works for stories I’d like to play. I’m a very flexible story teller. If you have ideas for tweaks, or add-ons, or if you want to swap the power in the story, please let me know. I am open to any new ideas.Male vs. FemaleMansion of Fantasies
A rich husband and wife are accompanied by a female maid, female nurse, male gardener, and male handyman in a large mansion. The husband owns the nurse and maid, and the wife owns the handyman and gardener. The four helpers also enjoy capturing each other and even teaming up two on one. I'll play all the males and you can play the females.Returning the Favor of Blackmailing
A very attractive woman of a high status family is caught doing something that would disgrace not just her, but her whole family. Something like steeling, or a wild sex act, or petty vandalism. The good looking, mischievous man that catches her committing the embarrassing act blackmails her into letting him do what he wants with her for a full night or maybe a full week. The woman is held against her will but actually enjoys the night. Towards the end of the night or sometime during the week, she finds out something about him that would send him to jail. She is able to turn the tables on him and forces him to submit to her desires. We can have them go back and forth, finding new ways to blackmail each other.Run for Your Sexual Lives!
A local amateur sports organizing group has many sports leagues to choose from on their website; soccer, flag football, softball, bowling…ext. You pay $60 and join a team. They advertise it as a great way to meet new friends and stay active. At the bottom of the page there is one last league which unbeknownst to you only you and a select few see. The league will pay you $5,000 a season! "Looking for athletic, fun minded individuals who want to spice up their lives and play with lovely people." Information on where to meet and when is the only other info on the site. You really need the money so you decide to see what it's about. When you arrive at the address you find large gates which open mechanically for you. You drive up a long driveway through a forest for at least ten minutes. When the trees give way you find a huge mansion and a group of handsome men and pretty girls all in their 20's outside on the front porch. You recognize your friend who is part of the greeters. They greet you, along with only a handful of others, apparently this is an exclusive league. Once everyone has arrived they tell you the rules. This is a chase game. To win the $5,000 you must outrun the people chasing you and not get caught for an hour. Men chase the women, women chase the men. You are given a five minute head start. If you are caught the captor, or captors, gets to ask one sexual favor from you and demand an article of your clothing before letting you go. If you refuse, you will not get any money. If you are caught three times you will be forced to become the third captor's slave until dawn to still get your money. Last chance to leave penniless? (We can both play multiple characters if you want. The captors can chase as a group or individuals. Thanks to Literotica for this lovely idea)Super-heroes vs. Super-villains
There has always been rumors of secret government experiments carried out on unwilling prisoners at the super-maximum security prison just outside of the large city. A year ago there was a major explosion at the prison and a large amount of hardened criminals escaped. Most of the prisoners have been recaptured, and the government claims all have been, but there are a handful of prisoners that haven't been caught. Ever since that explosion a ring of villains with special super-human powers have terrorized the city. The police are totally helpless. In response the government has created a special elite unit of warriors and given them super-human powers as well. Now it is their job to confront the super-villains and stop them. There will be times when some super-villains defeat, capture, and take advantage of some of the super-heroes, but also, it can go the other way as well. (You can use published characters if you desire, but I’ll be using original characters.)Spy vs. Spy
Two competing nations are at war with each other. The top spy in one nation is a very handsome male while the top spy for the other nation is a very attractive female. One captures the other and interrogates them. Then he or she has his/her way with the other before the other escapes. Later the tables are turned. They capture each other again and again and secretly love the sexual exploits between the two of them. They enjoy it so much that they both, "accidentally" leave the cuffs a little lose so that the other can escape and not get killed as they begin to secretly like each other. At first they are passionate rivals but after a few encounters where they make each other cum many times, they begin to like each other. Then through their interrogation of each other they find out that their whole world is in grave danger and they have to band together to stop a worldwide catastrophe. Will they save the world, will they confess their secret love for each other, or will they be good little soldiers and die where they stand?
(Aspects of femdom/maledom with romance and good fight scenes)FEMALE / male storiesGet it Out of Him!
The Kingdom has been invaded and taken over by an invading empire. The emperor's, or empress’s army, have taken the capitol and have heard tails of a powerful treasure that will grant the owner unlimited power. The Priesthood of the conquered kingdom is said to possess the knowledge of the treasure and guard it with their lives. Much of the Priesthood has been killed during the invasion, but one young priest has been captured by the empire. The empire asks its best female interrogator to get the secret of the treasure out of him by any means necessary. The female interrogator is the best because she's not only schooled in the effective use of torture, but is also very sexy and knows how to use it. Most men will give up any information to have sex with her after a little bit of torture. Yet this priest will not give in so easily, she will have to make him her sex slave and torture the truth out of him. It's nice for her that he's an attractive male and a virgin with all the deep, “dirty”, sexual desires any 22 your old male would have.Captured Rum
It’s the early 1600’s and the Rum running black market is big money for some daring young merchants. One such young merchant runs into some bad luck and the ship he is on ship wrecks on some uncharted island. He’s able to save one keg of rum which he is burying when one of the young females of the island finds him. Women rule the island and the men are their slaves. Any new-coming male is either to be taken as a slave, or killed. They are not allowed to leave for fear that they will bring other men with steel and guns back to harm the women. The young woman likes the looks of the young man and decides he’d make a great slave. She captures him and uses her sexual nature and sexual torture to make him want to be her slave for life.Men's Suffrage 4179 A.D.
For the last 1,500 years mankind has explored the nearest galaxies and colonized its own. There are many human inhabited planets now. All these planets have their own societies, laws, cultures and planetary identity. About 1,000 years ago a large colony of feminists colonized a distant planet in the galaxy under the ideal that if woman ruled society that everything would be better for everyone. Now in the year 4179 A.D. a distressed ship asks for permission to land on the remote planet. The ship is allowed to do so but only a few men and woman are still alive on the ship when it lands.
(I'll play one of the men from the ship. We should discuss what the society on the planet looks and acts like. I'm open to ideas of what would happen in a strictly female dominated society, the goods and ills of it. My character will either be forced to live submissively to a woman, or many women on the planet, or be an actual slave to a woman on the planet. But that's where the story begins. My character isn't happy as a submissive male and will lead a male rebellion to gain male suffrage on the planet. You can play as many dominant females, militant females, or caring and sympathetic females as you think there would be in the society. Other them the female dominance, I’m interested in what you see such a society looking like.)The Worm Hole to Erotic Captivity
The 3rd fleet of the Galaxy Alliance is under attack. One of the cargo ships in the fleet gets separated from the main fleet and gets sucked into a wormhole that had been previously unknown. On the other side of the wormhole the ship crash lands on an uncharted planet. With a handful of men and woman on the ship, they find themselves taken prisoner at gun point by the local women. They soon find out that woman rule this world and men are slaves to their women. Will the men of the ship be enslaved? Will they be tortured for "invading" the planet? Will the men enjoy their enslavement, or want to escape it? Will the women from the ship embrace their new found power in society, or will they shun the world that keeps men enslaved and try to rescue the men?Evil Scientist Nurse vs. Unlucky Patient
He’s a patient recovering from a car accident. She’s a beautiful young part time nurse while finishing up her PHD. She runs experiments on the side and needs a male for her next series of experiments and observations. He doesn’t need to be willing, just tied up and stripped. Tonight she’ll be the only nurse or doctor in the ward, perfect for playing with the attractive male patient in room 301. He’s asleep and will not wake up until she has him all tied up and at her mercy.What Did the Witch Unleash?!
A very attractive young warrior lays hurt on the battle field. A very attractive middle aged witch finds him and promises to heal him if he takes an oath to be her slave/pet. He accepts. She is in danger and needs the warrior’s skills for protection, but his quite confidence, constant curiosity, and stunning good looks, take their toll on her resolve not to use him in other ways. She’s bond him by his oath and her magic to obey her. Finally giving in to her desires she uses her powers to restrain him and take what she wants from him. He obeys her and (at first secretly, but increasingly up front about it), enjoys her use of him in this way. To keep him in line she puts a spell on him for whenever he might try to hurt her he will feel physical pain. At first he tried to escape, but when she’s attacked by townsfolk, he protects her. This story is femdom and romance with some power exchange.Girl Next-door.
He was a young man just out of college with his first big job and apartment. She was in her later 20's, but you can decide the rest of her history. They lived on opposite sides of the apartment complex. Their bedroom windows faced each other. They are both attractive people and secretly had a crush on each other. They said hi in the halls but nothing ever really happened. She started it when she "accidently" left the curtain open after getting out of the shower when he was home. He secretly enjoyed the view as she kept doing that. He would look away as she looked to the window. Then the day came when he did the same. She liked what she saw and enjoyed the game as well. As luck had it, they didn't meet in the hall for three weeks as this went on. One night when she got home she decides not to turn the light on and just watch him in silence. She sees him on the computer and finds that he is watching bondage and femdom videos. Surprised, but pleasantly so, she hatches a plan to have more fun with him.Captured Behind Enemy Lines
He’s tasked with infiltrating the kingdom dominated by the empress and her loyal females. His goal is to find their power source and steel it for his own kingdom, but he’s captured before he can achieve his goal. Now a young male prisoner he will be given to a woman to interrogate and forced to submit to her, (either a chosen one, or the one that captured him, but that’s open for debate). He’s an attractive man which makes this a pleasant task for the chosen female. When she finds out that he secretly enjoys her sexual domination and punishment it’s even more pleasant and soon they both start having fun with his punishment. The prisoner also secretly never forgets his quest and will one day complete it. What he does after getting his hands on such power will be greatly influenced by the relationship he has with his captors.The Mistress that Saved the World and the Disgraced
At age 34 (age isn’t that important, somewhere between early 40’s to early 30’s though) he had lived a life worthy of a blockbuster movie trilogy. A Harvard grad, certified troubled genus, secret CIA agent since the age of 16, and by age 34 a disgraced, depressed, and sorry case. He finds solace in a bottle of rum to chase away the pain. A classic case of knowing too much about the world and losing the only people he ever truly cared about he hides away in the mountains as a legend in his own time. When the world she loves starts to unravel and the secrets that she starts uncovering about the world are more complicated than anyone else knows about, she hears a legend of one man that might have the answers she craves so much. He won’t see her, or anyone! That is until she finds out that the lost love of his life was a dominatrix. Being to him what no one else can be, she holds the key to finding out what’s going wrong in the world and what they will have to do to work together to save it. Using her womanly charms and dominating style, she’s able to trap him, interrogate him, and lovingly cajole him into telling her what he knows. In so doing she helps him find that life is worth living again and love can still blossom in the heart of the disgraced.Vampires / human male
Open to almost anything with this.
She’s hungry again so she goes to find her next meal. She goes to the dance club, her favorite predatorily place. She meets an attractive man who can dance well. They dance together and then she asks him back to her place. He joins her and once home she pushes him against the wall and bites his neck passionately. After a while she feels him go limp, but she stops before she kills him. She likes him and decides to have more fun with him. When he wakes up he finds himself tied up and naked at her mercy.Space Femdom
A space woman dressed in a short silver skirt and silver bra with a ray gun comes down to earth looking for some much needed energy for her ship. (Elaborate as you like) She finds the human male she wants, attacks him and shoots him with the ray gun which stuns him. He can either be immobile on the first shot, or it takes a few shots to knock him out. Unable to move for a little while she takes him on her ship, strips him, and ties him up. Now helpless she is free to torture and play with him as she likes. The sexual energy that his body gives off as she plays with him refuels her ship. To complete the refueling she has to make him cum. (how much fuel she needs is up to you.)MALE / female storiesThe Mystery of the Fantasy House
There’s a Mansion on the outskirts of town where it’s rumored a secret gentleman’s club goes to have their fantasies come true. One courageous or stupid, female reporter investigates. She finds that the rumors are true, very, very, true! Before she can report her findings, she is captured and finds herself tied up in the office of the ring leader. His feet are up on his desk, a cigar in his mouth and a Manhattan on the rocks in his free hand, (no cigar if you don’t like smoking). A young woman stands against the wall behind him in a sexy maid’s outfit and holding a tray with a remote control. There’s a buzzing sound coming from under the new captive’s skirt. By the end of the night the new captive will be begging for a hard, hot, cock to invade her needy, wet, pussy. There are two big secrets of the mansion, will she find them out between being used by the males in the house?Thank You for Kidnapping Me!
She grew up in the cult from childhood. She’s trapped in an abusive situation where she is forced to stay a virgin and never know a man other than the father that beats her. She’s made to believe that if she leaves the cult she will be struck down by God and sent to eternal hell. One day the car her family is traveling in breaks down near the only gas station for miles. The 24 year old male mechanic offers them his little house for the night while he fixes their car. Extra curious she sneaks out in the middle of the night to visit the mechanic as he works on the family car. She is scarred of him and what her family might do if caught, yet she still can’t help but want to know someone outside of her cult. She finds out he’s a nice guy and nothing like what a “Man” is supposed to be in her life. She’s able to sneak back into her bed before her family knows and soon it is morning. The Car is fixed and she leaves the only friend she’s ever had behind. A Month goes by when one night she feels a hand and foul smelling cloth over her mouth with male lips by her ear whispering, “Don’t scream, I’m here to take you away.” When she wakes up she is tied in the front passenger seat of the mechanic’s car and he’s driving her away from the nightmare of her life. He gently reaches over and begins to run his hands all over her pretty body. Is she being violated, or truly loved for the first time?Kidnapped for Sport
( wrote this long before the soccer fixing scandal, no really!)
A sports star gets caught up in a powerful betting ring. He trys to refuse to throw a game but then the powers that be threaten to kidnap his wife/girlfriend. He calls the police and thinks it will be taken care of. Instead his wife is kidnapped and he finds out that the police are working with the betting ring. The emphasis can be on the wife’s kidnapping and possible rape, or on the sports star's rescue of her.Girl Meets World
She is a princess that feels couped up and wants adventure. She knows there are evils in her own land and she wants to make them right for her kingdom. Her kingdom is winning a war with another kingdom. The other kingdom sends a spy to kidnap her to then demand an end to the war and the other kingdom’s survival in exchange for her survival. After kidnapping her, the kidnappers take a liking to her beauty and start having “fun” with her. (How far they go is up to you. She can stay a virgin if she was before, or find herself brutally raped repeatedly, or somewhere in between.) Each kidnapper starts falling in love with her. Only a month or so after being kidnapped she is rescued by a dashing peasant, who at first is just looking for money, but later truly wants to save her. She doesn't want to go home and back to the prison she grew up in. (Also, if she was raped, she might feel unworthy of being a princess again.) Will the peasant bring her home against her will like he was ordered to and collect the monetary reward he needs, or give in to her desires and show her the real world that she craves to see? Will the spy that captured her once find her again and recapture her? What will she do when she finds that this is only the beginning to a complex story where everyone has multiple motivations and belong to more than one organization? (Maledom turns into romantic adventure.)Victim or Lover
This can be a vampire, a daemon, or a normal human male. He kidnaps a college classmate who he hasn’t known for very long. He’s heard she has a crush on him, and he knows she’s got a special blood line. He picks her as his target. She will be tied up, raped, and then to what extent she is punished or abused is up to you. There is a reason outside of his very real lust for her that he kidnapped and raped her, but that will be revealed as the story goes on. It’s a dark story line with high emotions and possibly some romance.The Pleasure of Darkness
(This can be a story in the present or historical times. It will have supernatural parts.)
A boy and a girl grew up together as next door neighbors and best friends. As a teenager the boy was drafted to go to war to defend his country. Now age 24 he has come back a changed man. She’s become a successful woman (in whatever way successful means to you), but still has a soft spot for the boy she grew up with. He is haunted and possessed by some evil that he can’t even speak of. She tries to help him and ends up being captured and kidnapped by him. She desperately wants to help him but is confronted head on by the darkness he is struggling with. After kidnapping her he rapes her, once or repeatedly, (pseudo rape, I don’t want to hurt anyone. If you want it I can add tentacles). Either at first or after a few times she finds herself enjoying the raping by him. She knows he is hurting inside and she wants to help him, but if she does, will she lose the pleasure of being used by the rough version of man she’s always loved, or is the darkness just bringing out his primal desires?Running the Gauntlet
A sadistic trillionaire puts out an advertisement to any woman who thinks she can run his “Gauntlet of Sexual Ecstasy” without cumming. If a woman is capable of such a feat, he will give her half of his fortune, but if she fails, she is to be his sex slave for the rest of her life. Many woman have tried, no one has succeeded. (Spoiler alert, neither will your character….muuuuahahahahah!!!!)Romantic StoriesA Second Chance
There is a legend of a warrior so fierce, so fast, and so powerful that his speed surpassed even the Gods. Abandoned as a child he knows only the sword and death. Any mortal would be a fool not to run at the mere sight of him. The best warriors in the land cower in fear, or relish a beautiful death, if they ever meet this man in battle. Unbeknownst to the world the man of legend kneels before his very own katana without a scrap of cloth on his body. His strong muscles ripple in his tight, smooth, pale, skin of his short, lanky, yet muscularly strong, body when he reaches out to the hilt of his sword. The blade is placed between his muscular abs and outstretched arms. Closing his lavender eyes and bowing his head so that his long red hair falls over his face he prepares himself for death.
After four long years of constant battle as an assassin to destroy the evil ruling class he has come to the realization that his “righteous deeds” have only caused pain and destruction. With the evil government destroyed he is not needed any longer. The loss of his innocence and the woman he idolized, but never truly loved, for he never became her significant other, has driven him to this moment. He now realizes how his presence has been a blight on the world and there for he must end it by committing seppuku.
As he says his last prayers and takes a breath, about to send the cold blade slicing through his hot flesh to penetrate his pained heart and end his miserable existence, there is a flash of light! Frozen in shock Kenshin looks up to see a pretty girl standing in front of him. Their eyes lock, their hearts thump with an adrenaline rush of the unknown. They are locked in a moment which would take decades of questions and learning to understand. She has been through her own lose and desperation. She has found herself in great need of help from a warrior. Her prayers have been answered, but does she know it? How did she get here? Will Kenshin finish his life, or will the woman find a way to save him to save herself? Is she wearing any cloths or naked like him?
(If you know the story of Rurouni Kenshin this will be a what if story. What if Kenshin tries to take his own life after losing Tome instead of becoming a wanderer.)God Smiles on the Defiled and Blessed
The brutal war expanded even to the most sacred and innocent of locations as the invading army rushed into the 300 year old monastery and held a covenant of nuns captive after brutally murdered the priests. A leader of men emerges from the "barbarian horde" who took the monastery to ranee in the violence and bring order back to the town/city. As spoils of war the virgin nuns are presented to him and he chooses those he wishes to incorporate into his harem. Your character will be one of the nuns that catches his eyes and I will play the leader who takes a fancy to your character's pretty and unsoiled face. At first this might be non-con, but I envision a story with romance, action, a complex story, and even love, developing in the long run. A story where a woman can grow from idolizing "purity" to growing to know true love in all it's crazy forms. this story could be "historic fiction" based on the Mongolian horde invading Europe, or it could be a complete fantasy world.Yes, Men Like This Do Exist
The daughter of a wealthy and very powerful man, or woman, goes to a night club with her friends. A very attractive man who can dance so well that she finds him the sexiest man she's ever seen, is at the club. He dances over to her and picks her to dance with him all night. They start a relationship and he fast becomes her dream man, falling in love with him. What she doesn't know is that he is trying to get to her parents to manipulate them in an international game of "cards". But he too finds himself falling for her. She finds out about his true intentions and is about to “out” him when he tells her the truth of why he is doing what he's doing. At first she doesn't believe him until there is a big disaster/war/or kidnapping that he predicts would happen if she doesn’t help him. After a while they must work together to save the planet and start to fall in love for real.Freedom on the Dance Floor
At a kick ass night club a good looking but usually shy young man has just broken up with his girlfriend. He came to the club with his soccer friends; they have a tournament game tomorrow afternoon. He's usually very shy, but he's a great dancer and he knows it. Two beautiful girls enter the club with their pimp close behind. Their job is to find a guy who can pay a high price for them for the night. If one man can pay for them both they go for him, but they usually find one guy each. Their pimp buys his girls drinks and they pick out the guys they will target on the dance floor. One of the girls likes the looks of the shy guy, but he isn't on the dance floor yet. Plus, he doesn't look like he has the money for her. She targets other men, but then he starts dancing. He dances with the wife of a teammate. Then he picks out an older woman who he knows. As one of the prostitutes is dancing with another guy that she’s picked out she pump against the shy guy on the dance floor. He spins her around a bit and they go back to dancing with their other partners, but she's gotten a taste. Later as he walks the friend off the dance floor she jumps in and asks him to dance. Surprised and wide eyed, amazed that such a pretty girl wants to dance with him, he accepts. She loves it, he feels so good against her, his movements make her convinced that he'd be amazing in bed, she’s right. Her pimp grabs her away from the dance, mad that she is wasting time with a guy that can't pay for her. He's right. She goes back to trying to find a customer, but as the night goes on she can't stop thinking about that shy guy that can dance like no other. She has to dance with that man again. What she doesn't know is that he's the man that has the power to save her from the life she secretly hates...... what will happen?OMG, It’s him!
A woman is kidnapped. Special Forces helicopter in and save her very dramatically. She sees and remembers one of the faces of the Special Forces men. She thinks he was gorgeous! Before she can even say thank you she is safe in recovery and they are gone, never to be seen again, or so they all thought. Ten years later she recognizes his face again when he is in trouble. Maybe homeless, PTSD, injured when she is a nurse, or something else, a romance begins.Ambushed
The princess sees the new addition to the royal court. He is 18 and the son of the new Duchess, the princess’s new aunt. He is an apprentice (blacksmith, merchant, alchemist, mage, not sure yet) but now must learn the sword as all men in the royal court do. He's shy, good looking, and out of place. He’s from middle class roots and is bullied by the other royal children. The princess is to marry a man from a neighboring kingdom who she hasn't met. The reports are the prince is her dream man. The new royal is picked to be in the princess’s guard for her trip to see the prince she is to marry. It is to be a simple uneventful trip, but enemies ambush the royal precession. After most of the guards are killed valiantly protecting her, the new royal is able to wisk the princess to safety. He shows himself as a leader and a tactician with heart. When the plot thickens, and she finds out her dream prince was behind the attack all along, there will be only one man she can turn to for help, the young man she is trusting with her life.The King’s Whore and the Map Maker
(This one is special to me. It will be full of mystery and will not be a short story.)
In a medieval fantasy world the King has a lady in the most distinguished city brothel who he likes the most. She is exceptionally beautiful and very intelligent. In a male dominated society of medieval European fantasy she thinks this is the best place for an outgoing, independent, woman who likes sex and males with power and intrigue. On occasion the king has asked her to get information for him from advisors or others in “any way possible”. She is rewarded handsomely each time. Recently the King has asked her to get close to the head map maker of the rival kingdom. It sounds like an easy task. The map maker is 28 and without a wife or kids. As it turns out he’s fairly attractive as well! She’s good at what she does and she finds success in seducing him, however, thinking this might be her most pleasurable job yet she soon finds out she’s bitten off more than she can chew. What she finds are secrets and realities that blow her mind! She soon realizes that this man is more interesting and more powerful than any King or Emperor in the world! Will she stay loyal to her King, help the map maker save the world, or secretly work for her own desires? Will she use the feelings of the men in her life for her own gain, like she’s always done, or find a calling greater than herself and fall in love with a man that can help her reach pleasures she has never even dreamed of?Do You Need Me?
(this one is a difficult one to play and needs a very intellectual RPing partner.)
A fairly happily married couple in their 20’s or 30’s live together in a nice house. They both have full time jobs and blossoming careers. They are both good at what they do and are getting more responsibilities at work. It just so happens that they both work at jobs that affect the wellbeing of everyone in the world. (Think world bank, or United Nations, or CIA, or FIMA, ext…) They are a modern couple who share responsibilities of the relationship on an equal playing field. He’ll pay the bills while she cooks, or he’ll clean while she folds the laundry, or he’ll do the grocery shopping while she finishes retiling the bathroom, or he’ll build the new bookshelf while she’ll pick up the carry out dinner.
This co-operation and bliss infuriates the devil. He calls two of his best daemons and directs them to destroy these two love birds’ relationship so that he can use them to rech havoc upon the world.
(I plan on playing both of the daemons and maybe the husband, but I also think it would be fun to just play both daemons and have two other RPers play the husband and wife. The real issue that the daemons will be keying on in this story is propping up the husband’s and wife’s independence, and their vulnerabilities of not being needed anymore. For me, one of the biggest issues in the new relationships, postmodern relationship roles, is the independence versus needs issue. We all want to be independent, and think we want another person who can be independent, but the reality is that independence means you don’t need anyone else which doesn’t leave any room for a lover to fulfill a need and feel indispensable. More simply put, “If you can do everything for yourself, why do you need me? If you don’t need me, then how can I be appreciated?” This goes for both sides of the coin. Can the devil figure this out before the good people?)