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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2012, 08:57:20 PM »
Well now that i looked through them ill be going with the Gypsy bard so not to much in the magic department besides some scrying and talking to animals.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2012, 09:07:22 PM »
OK, this game absolutely excites me!  I miss 2nd ed too.  What do I need to do to get involved?

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2012, 09:13:00 PM »
Oh, and incidentally, I'm thief oriented. :)

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« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2012, 09:52:05 PM »
I'm interested in playing a Human Dual Class Fighter/Cleric. A non-annoying Anomen.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2012, 11:27:33 PM »
Ok, that makes 7 interested parties. For the fighter/cleric, I'll need to know the levels, and how far you can get with 36,000 EXP. You can probably get anything from a 6th level fighter and 1st level cleric to a 1st level fighter and 6th level cleric.

thieves are always a bonus in this type of setting. You will, however have to come up with the "real" character's personality and background. This will be what the fantasy character has to fight against as either the "real" you or the fantasy you takes control in time.

In short, the real character brings some skills to the character that are vague and are mainly in the field inwhich your "real" character was involved. The "fantasy" character will give you the skills that are part of that character. The problem is finding a balance between the two that allows you to access those vital skills and abilities.

As an example, in the AD&D system, magic is described as being something like this, or that. The reality of it may be a little different when you actually have to spend hours of cramming to get the spell back... Or, praying to a diety that you don't believe in to retrieve those spells. and so on. Things to think about and play out can be fun and even a little humorous as the characters learn about themselves.

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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2012, 12:01:19 AM »
We could loophole around that. Actually, now that I think about it, I'd rather be a Human Cleric.
A Cleric that worships Good as a Force. As a Player, he would think that God is actually the Force of Good in D&D, and I think that should make the problem solved.

Unless by levels you mean our starting levels. I was hoping to have a Figher level 7 and then a Cleric. . .So I could start out with a Fighter level 7 and then dual class later.

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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2012, 03:45:15 AM »
My own character would be playing a male elven spellcaster. In all truth I am not familiar of the spellcasters beyond Wizard and Sorcerer, SO help would be appriciated <3

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2012, 04:37:34 AM »
We could loophole around that. Actually, now that I think about it, I'd rather be a Human Cleric.
A Cleric that worships Good as a Force. As a Player, he would think that God is actually the Force of Good in D&D, and I think that should make the problem solved.

Unless by levels you mean our starting levels. I was hoping to have a Figher level 7 and then a Cleric. . .So I could start out with a Fighter level 7 and then dual class later.

Ok, more than a bit to respond to hre, so let me take it one at a time.

The problem with the solution that you offered is that the role-player character may, or maynot believe in God, The Goddess or some other form of diety commonly practiced in the real world. The fantasy character, on the other hand, would certainly believe in a being from which he or she prays for spells and other diety related abilities.Even if that would be a general goodness, few people on our side simply pray to the "being of goodness." Usually, people pray to a "God"(or one of his various names) and that the prayer be addressed to someone. I'm not sure, "Oh all perserving goodness of the universe, give me the strength to carry on even when politicians are trying to starve me to death." would work.

All of that aside, the role-player MUST have faith and believe in the diety that the fantasy character follows, or it's sort of likean athiest trying to tell himself that by praying, he will be heard by a god that doesn't exist. Make any sense?

The personality of the fantasy character can help with this, but ultimately, the role-player is going to have to find the faith to sincerely offer prayers to Aphrodite (as an example) and that she'll hear you and grant your request.

I'm not going to make it that big of an issue, but it should be something for the characters to deal with as part of the merging of the characters.

The level thing is how many levels that you can squeeze out of 40K EXP. a 6th level fighter requires 32,000 exp. So, you could pick up another level (or 2) with the remaining 8K. Actually, 8K could get you more than a couple of levels in mostcombinations. A 6th level cleric is 27,500, I think, so that gives you a little more lee-way in a dual class.

Both thief and druid hit 7th level at 40K as single classes.

I would rather that you dual class, if you're going to, before the game begins simply because it'll be easier to achieve that way. To get a 7th level fighter, you would have to get another 24,000 exp and THEN whatever EXP that it takes to get to level 1 in the other class before you can dual class. Dependng on how things go, that could be quite a while.

My own character would be playing a male elven spellcaster. In all truth I am not familiar of the spellcasters beyond Wizard and Sorcerer, SO help would be appriciated <3

I'll send you a PM on this.
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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2012, 05:00:32 AM »
Alrighty then.

I've created an OOC thread so that we can take things there and handle things there. I think we have about a full group now and we'll see how things work out.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2012, 05:39:55 AM »
Ok, more than a bit to respond to hre, so let me take it one at a time.

The problem with the solution that you offered is that the role-player character may, or maynot believe in God, The Goddess or some other form of diety commonly practiced in the real world. The fantasy character, on the other hand, would certainly believe in a being from which he or she prays for spells and other diety related abilities.Even if that would be a general goodness, few people on our side simply pray to the "being of goodness." Usually, people pray to a "God"(or one of his various names) and that the prayer be addressed to someone. I'm not sure, "Oh all perserving goodness of the universe, give me the strength to carry on even when politicians are trying to starve me to death." would work.

All of that aside, the role-player MUST have faith and believe in the diety that the fantasy character follows, or it's sort of likean athiest trying to tell himself that by praying, he will be heard by a god that doesn't exist. Make any sense?

The personality of the fantasy character can help with this, but ultimately, the role-player is going to have to find the faith to sincerely offer prayers to Aphrodite (as an example) and that she'll hear you and grant your request.

I'm not going to make it that big of an issue, but it should be something for the characters to deal with as part of the merging of the characters.

The level thing is how many levels that you can squeeze out of 40K EXP. a 6th level fighter requires 32,000 exp. So, you could pick up another level (or 2) with the remaining 8K. Actually, 8K could get you more than a couple of levels in mostcombinations. A 6th level cleric is 27,500, I think, so that gives you a little more lee-way in a dual class.

Both thief and druid hit 7th level at 40K as single classes.

I would rather that you dual class, if you're going to, before the game begins simply because it'll be easier to achieve that way. To get a 7th level fighter, you would have to get another 24,000 exp and THEN whatever EXP that it takes to get to level 1 in the other class before you can dual class. Dependng on how things go, that could be quite a while.

I'll send you a PM on this.

Okay, so what you mean is, we start the game with whatever class we want that has 36,000 XP in it?

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2012, 06:07:33 AM »
Class or classes, intrested. 

For example, with 36,000 EXP as a human with 16+ strength and 17+ wisdom, you could have been a fighter--preferably one who focused on a hammer or mace--who got to fourth level--then had a spiritual awakening, joined a church, adn became a cleric.  Having now reached 5th level as a cleric, he has access to his fighter skills again. 

This character would have for hit points:  10+3d10+1d8. 
He would have a thac0 of 17. 
He would have the spellcasting abilities of a cleric (5th level.) 
Depending on rolls, he might have exeptional strength of a boost start of very good hit points.  You could also make him a weapon specialist in footmans or horseman's mace. 

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2012, 06:58:46 AM »
If you can't find the game, it's here.  :)

http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=160872.msg7424555#new

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2012, 09:40:08 AM »
Interested: Check in with Muse and he'll set you right.

Red Pheonix: Usually, the class that everyone tells you that the group needs is a cleric, but as we have one on the way, I would suggest a thief of some type. They don't have anyone (yet) who can do any of those little jobs.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2012, 10:29:31 AM »
Ok, more than a bit to respond to hre, so let me take it one at a time.

The problem with the solution that you offered is that the role-player character may, or maynot believe in God, The Goddess or some other form of diety commonly practiced in the real world. The fantasy character, on the other hand, would certainly believe in a being from which he or she prays for spells and other diety related abilities.Even if that would be a general goodness, few people on our side simply pray to the "being of goodness." Usually, people pray to a "God"(or one of his various names) and that the prayer be addressed to someone. I'm not sure, "Oh all perserving goodness of the universe, give me the strength to carry on even when politicians are trying to starve me to death." would work.

All of that aside, the role-player MUST have faith and believe in the diety that the fantasy character follows, or it's sort of likean athiest trying to tell himself that by praying, he will be heard by a god that doesn't exist. Make any sense?

The personality of the fantasy character can help with this, but ultimately, the role-player is going to have to find the faith to sincerely offer prayers to Aphrodite (as an example) and that she'll hear you and grant your request.

I'm not going to make it that big of an issue, but it should be something for the characters to deal with as part of the merging of the characters.

The level thing is how many levels that you can squeeze out of 40K EXP. a 6th level fighter requires 32,000 exp. So, you could pick up another level (or 2) with the remaining 8K. Actually, 8K could get you more than a couple of levels in mostcombinations. A 6th level cleric is 27,500, I think, so that gives you a little more lee-way in a dual class.

Both thief and druid hit 7th level at 40K as single classes.

I would rather that you dual class, if you're going to, before the game begins simply because it'll be easier to achieve that way. To get a 7th level fighter, you would have to get another 24,000 exp and THEN whatever EXP that it takes to get to level 1 in the other class before you can dual class. Dependng on how things go, that could be quite a while.

I'll send you a PM on this.

7th level thief....  I can do that.  Of course there are the matters I brought up on the OOC.... 

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2012, 10:31:21 AM »
Last I checked, Luna was working on a sworddancer of Eilsitraee--who is a cleric type. 

Interested was still throwing ideas around. 

And we had people expressing interest in a thief and a mutlicalss thief. 

Am I the only one who thinks it would be interesting for the character Pheonix describes to become a paladin?  The reason I say that, is she comes across as a somewhat of a poser, more interested in being thought righteous than being righteous.  As a paladin--or druid--she suddenly has to live up to it! 

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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2012, 11:57:55 AM »
I'll have to think on my character some more.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2012, 02:56:15 PM »
  Perhaps Lilly is either court druid too, or the aprentice to court druid too, a human nobleman who has been a patron to our group?

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone? (Closed)
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2012, 03:55:04 PM »
I like her. :)

The only concern I have is that she might loose that influencial position in the course of the game, but we'll see how she does at maintaining it. 

Muse has a good suggestion, I would give some consideration to not keeping the background secret since the party has been adventuring together for some time and personal history has a way of coming out in the normal course of things, particularly if a character is use to being a power among the nobility.

I think that there's a little error in the experience to next level. Level 7 is 40K, so I'm not entirely sure that the next level is just 20K away. I'll check on that.

The good stuff...magical items. Lilly gets... Drum roll please...

Boots of Speed and +1 shield


BTW: I'll need a list of the spells that she "usually" has available. If something changes in the list, just let me know.
Now, if you would be so good as to post Lilly/Oakley to the OOC board. :)
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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2012, 04:35:24 PM »
 mm I'm stuck doing my Char sheet..

But I can come up with my mages' backround  and stuff easily.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2012, 08:24:43 PM »
Where are you getting stuck at Karasu? Either Muse or I can help you out.

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« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2012, 08:56:02 PM »
making a character.. I suck with 2d ed things.. since I've not played a game Penn and Paper wise staring at the character sheet.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2012, 09:04:22 PM »
My advice is start with your concept.  Numbers and what they mean can come later.  Figure out what your characters are and how they function and then even maybe I could help put it into numbers form. 

I'm trying to figure out some more things about the genre before I get my concept going for the D&D character but I'm pretty much certain I know what the human character is.

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« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2012, 09:27:31 PM »
I'm playing an Ellf mage.. it's mostly my mind being derpy atm

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2012, 09:41:19 PM »
OK, what was the elf's home like.  Why is he/she with the group?  (Assuming we're a group)  Why's the character adventuring?  How'd it find out it had magical skills?  What'd it do once it found them?  Was it an apprentice?  Did it join a mage's guild?  What are its goals?  (Enough thoughts to start with?)

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« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2012, 10:33:07 PM »
That part I can make with no problem whatsoever, it's making the SHEET itself I need help with. Because I have VERY little experience with 2nd ed.

I've almost got that part done