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Offline Marie Reynolds

Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2012, 07:15:36 PM »
Hello I would like to throw my hat in. For the Modern World I was thinking someone in the that most likely makes custom order clothes with an online business  and a bondage model and goes to school partime for a batchelors in Fashion Design. In the Fantasy world she would be a bard flavor of which still deciding on and not quite sure of the race yet.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2012, 08:38:45 PM »
Your welcome to toss your hat in.

So much for that wanting to limit magic... why did I think that I could get away with that? lol

The make-up of the party so far is:

1. Muse: Elven ranger/mage (5/4) "Bladesinger"... magic-user
Karasu: Half-elf mage ... magic-user
Luna: Dark Elf unknown class... innate magic.
Red Pheonix: Unknown
Marie Reynolds: Unknown bard ... magic user.

I can see that we may be decidedly light on thieving abilities and devine intervention ability. So, I hope that these ladies can either charm their way out of things, or get use to being tied up and ravaged by who knows what. ;)

The pattern holds true! *chuckles* I must be the last hold out who doesn't care for magical characters. lol


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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2012, 08:57:20 PM »
Well now that i looked through them ill be going with the Gypsy bard so not to much in the magic department besides some scrying and talking to animals.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2012, 09:07:22 PM »
OK, this game absolutely excites me!  I miss 2nd ed too.  What do I need to do to get involved?

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2012, 09:13:00 PM »
Oh, and incidentally, I'm thief oriented. :)

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2012, 09:52:05 PM »
I'm interested in playing a Human Dual Class Fighter/Cleric. A non-annoying Anomen.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2012, 11:27:33 PM »
Ok, that makes 7 interested parties. For the fighter/cleric, I'll need to know the levels, and how far you can get with 36,000 EXP. You can probably get anything from a 6th level fighter and 1st level cleric to a 1st level fighter and 6th level cleric.

thieves are always a bonus in this type of setting. You will, however have to come up with the "real" character's personality and background. This will be what the fantasy character has to fight against as either the "real" you or the fantasy you takes control in time.

In short, the real character brings some skills to the character that are vague and are mainly in the field inwhich your "real" character was involved. The "fantasy" character will give you the skills that are part of that character. The problem is finding a balance between the two that allows you to access those vital skills and abilities.

As an example, in the AD&D system, magic is described as being something like this, or that. The reality of it may be a little different when you actually have to spend hours of cramming to get the spell back... Or, praying to a diety that you don't believe in to retrieve those spells. and so on. Things to think about and play out can be fun and even a little humorous as the characters learn about themselves.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2012, 12:01:19 AM »
We could loophole around that. Actually, now that I think about it, I'd rather be a Human Cleric.
A Cleric that worships Good as a Force. As a Player, he would think that God is actually the Force of Good in D&D, and I think that should make the problem solved.

Unless by levels you mean our starting levels. I was hoping to have a Figher level 7 and then a Cleric. . .So I could start out with a Fighter level 7 and then dual class later.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2012, 03:45:15 AM »
My own character would be playing a male elven spellcaster. In all truth I am not familiar of the spellcasters beyond Wizard and Sorcerer, SO help would be appriciated <3

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2012, 04:37:34 AM »
We could loophole around that. Actually, now that I think about it, I'd rather be a Human Cleric.
A Cleric that worships Good as a Force. As a Player, he would think that God is actually the Force of Good in D&D, and I think that should make the problem solved.

Unless by levels you mean our starting levels. I was hoping to have a Figher level 7 and then a Cleric. . .So I could start out with a Fighter level 7 and then dual class later.

Ok, more than a bit to respond to hre, so let me take it one at a time.

The problem with the solution that you offered is that the role-player character may, or maynot believe in God, The Goddess or some other form of diety commonly practiced in the real world. The fantasy character, on the other hand, would certainly believe in a being from which he or she prays for spells and other diety related abilities.Even if that would be a general goodness, few people on our side simply pray to the "being of goodness." Usually, people pray to a "God"(or one of his various names) and that the prayer be addressed to someone. I'm not sure, "Oh all perserving goodness of the universe, give me the strength to carry on even when politicians are trying to starve me to death." would work.

All of that aside, the role-player MUST have faith and believe in the diety that the fantasy character follows, or it's sort of likean athiest trying to tell himself that by praying, he will be heard by a god that doesn't exist. Make any sense?

The personality of the fantasy character can help with this, but ultimately, the role-player is going to have to find the faith to sincerely offer prayers to Aphrodite (as an example) and that she'll hear you and grant your request.

I'm not going to make it that big of an issue, but it should be something for the characters to deal with as part of the merging of the characters.

The level thing is how many levels that you can squeeze out of 40K EXP. a 6th level fighter requires 32,000 exp. So, you could pick up another level (or 2) with the remaining 8K. Actually, 8K could get you more than a couple of levels in mostcombinations. A 6th level cleric is 27,500, I think, so that gives you a little more lee-way in a dual class.

Both thief and druid hit 7th level at 40K as single classes.

I would rather that you dual class, if you're going to, before the game begins simply because it'll be easier to achieve that way. To get a 7th level fighter, you would have to get another 24,000 exp and THEN whatever EXP that it takes to get to level 1 in the other class before you can dual class. Dependng on how things go, that could be quite a while.

My own character would be playing a male elven spellcaster. In all truth I am not familiar of the spellcasters beyond Wizard and Sorcerer, SO help would be appriciated <3

I'll send you a PM on this.
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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2012, 05:00:32 AM »
Alrighty then.

I've created an OOC thread so that we can take things there and handle things there. I think we have about a full group now and we'll see how things work out.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2012, 05:39:55 AM »
Ok, more than a bit to respond to hre, so let me take it one at a time.

The problem with the solution that you offered is that the role-player character may, or maynot believe in God, The Goddess or some other form of diety commonly practiced in the real world. The fantasy character, on the other hand, would certainly believe in a being from which he or she prays for spells and other diety related abilities.Even if that would be a general goodness, few people on our side simply pray to the "being of goodness." Usually, people pray to a "God"(or one of his various names) and that the prayer be addressed to someone. I'm not sure, "Oh all perserving goodness of the universe, give me the strength to carry on even when politicians are trying to starve me to death." would work.

All of that aside, the role-player MUST have faith and believe in the diety that the fantasy character follows, or it's sort of likean athiest trying to tell himself that by praying, he will be heard by a god that doesn't exist. Make any sense?

The personality of the fantasy character can help with this, but ultimately, the role-player is going to have to find the faith to sincerely offer prayers to Aphrodite (as an example) and that she'll hear you and grant your request.

I'm not going to make it that big of an issue, but it should be something for the characters to deal with as part of the merging of the characters.

The level thing is how many levels that you can squeeze out of 40K EXP. a 6th level fighter requires 32,000 exp. So, you could pick up another level (or 2) with the remaining 8K. Actually, 8K could get you more than a couple of levels in mostcombinations. A 6th level cleric is 27,500, I think, so that gives you a little more lee-way in a dual class.

Both thief and druid hit 7th level at 40K as single classes.

I would rather that you dual class, if you're going to, before the game begins simply because it'll be easier to achieve that way. To get a 7th level fighter, you would have to get another 24,000 exp and THEN whatever EXP that it takes to get to level 1 in the other class before you can dual class. Dependng on how things go, that could be quite a while.

I'll send you a PM on this.

Okay, so what you mean is, we start the game with whatever class we want that has 36,000 XP in it?

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2012, 06:07:33 AM »
Class or classes, intrested. 

For example, with 36,000 EXP as a human with 16+ strength and 17+ wisdom, you could have been a fighter--preferably one who focused on a hammer or mace--who got to fourth level--then had a spiritual awakening, joined a church, adn became a cleric.  Having now reached 5th level as a cleric, he has access to his fighter skills again. 

This character would have for hit points:  10+3d10+1d8. 
He would have a thac0 of 17. 
He would have the spellcasting abilities of a cleric (5th level.) 
Depending on rolls, he might have exeptional strength of a boost start of very good hit points.  You could also make him a weapon specialist in footmans or horseman's mace. 

Send me a PM if you need more help. 

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2012, 06:58:46 AM »
If you can't find the game, it's here.  :)

http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?topic=160872.msg7424555#new

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2012, 09:06:48 AM »
Okay so here's my general thoughts at the moment.

I am thinking my "player" is a sort of sanctimonious ultra-liberal self-crowned most progressive person in the world who is constantly berating his friends for wasting all their times playing games and not fighting for all the causes in the real world.

So he deliberately doesn't know the rules or how the game works and agrees to play the character that the group needs someone to be to make the party work. I want her to be a very pretty lady. Either human or elf!

So, what sort of character would be needed in the group? Like the character that the rest of the group says "I wish someone would play the _____" that would be the character I end up as?

If that makes sense?

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2012, 09:40:08 AM »
Interested: Check in with Muse and he'll set you right.

Red Pheonix: Usually, the class that everyone tells you that the group needs is a cleric, but as we have one on the way, I would suggest a thief of some type. They don't have anyone (yet) who can do any of those little jobs.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2012, 10:29:31 AM »
Ok, more than a bit to respond to hre, so let me take it one at a time.

The problem with the solution that you offered is that the role-player character may, or maynot believe in God, The Goddess or some other form of diety commonly practiced in the real world. The fantasy character, on the other hand, would certainly believe in a being from which he or she prays for spells and other diety related abilities.Even if that would be a general goodness, few people on our side simply pray to the "being of goodness." Usually, people pray to a "God"(or one of his various names) and that the prayer be addressed to someone. I'm not sure, "Oh all perserving goodness of the universe, give me the strength to carry on even when politicians are trying to starve me to death." would work.

All of that aside, the role-player MUST have faith and believe in the diety that the fantasy character follows, or it's sort of likean athiest trying to tell himself that by praying, he will be heard by a god that doesn't exist. Make any sense?

The personality of the fantasy character can help with this, but ultimately, the role-player is going to have to find the faith to sincerely offer prayers to Aphrodite (as an example) and that she'll hear you and grant your request.

I'm not going to make it that big of an issue, but it should be something for the characters to deal with as part of the merging of the characters.

The level thing is how many levels that you can squeeze out of 40K EXP. a 6th level fighter requires 32,000 exp. So, you could pick up another level (or 2) with the remaining 8K. Actually, 8K could get you more than a couple of levels in mostcombinations. A 6th level cleric is 27,500, I think, so that gives you a little more lee-way in a dual class.

Both thief and druid hit 7th level at 40K as single classes.

I would rather that you dual class, if you're going to, before the game begins simply because it'll be easier to achieve that way. To get a 7th level fighter, you would have to get another 24,000 exp and THEN whatever EXP that it takes to get to level 1 in the other class before you can dual class. Dependng on how things go, that could be quite a while.

I'll send you a PM on this.

7th level thief....  I can do that.  Of course there are the matters I brought up on the OOC.... 

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2012, 10:31:21 AM »
Last I checked, Luna was working on a sworddancer of Eilsitraee--who is a cleric type. 

Interested was still throwing ideas around. 

And we had people expressing interest in a thief and a mutlicalss thief. 

Am I the only one who thinks it would be interesting for the character Pheonix describes to become a paladin?  The reason I say that, is she comes across as a somewhat of a poser, more interested in being thought righteous than being righteous.  As a paladin--or druid--she suddenly has to live up to it! 

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2012, 10:32:53 AM »
Ooooh I like that!!! I think I would prefer druid because I'm going to make a paladin for dungeon world game, and it fits more with the hippie theme!

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #44 on: December 22, 2012, 11:57:55 AM »
I'll have to think on my character some more.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #45 on: December 22, 2012, 02:44:08 PM »
Okay thanks to Muse sooooooo much for helping me with this (i.e. doing it for me!)

Druid
Name:        Lily Guardiana
--Human Name:   Oakley Pennington
Race:      Half Elf
Class:      Druid
Kit:      Advisor
Experience:   7
Next Level:   60,000

Height:      55
Weight:      125
Measures:   32D, 20, 34
Skin:      Fair
Hair:      Black
Eyes:      Green

Strength   9
--Weight Allowance:  35lbs
--Maximum Press:  90lbs

Dexterity   14

Constitution   9
--Survive System Shock 65%
--Survive Resurrection 70%

Intelligence   14
--Bonus Proficiencies:  4

Wisdom   17

Charisma   15
--Maximum Henchmen: 7
--Loyalty Base +3
--Reaction Adjustment +3

Hit Points:   36

Armor Class:   7      (Leather Armor AC 8, Small Wooden Shield -1)

Thac0   16

Sickle
ROF      1
Thac0      16
Damage S/M   1d4+1
Damage: Large   1d4

Sling
ROF      1
Thac0      16
Damage S/M   1d4+1
Damage Large   1d6+1
Range     
Ammunition   10

Staff
# Attacks   1
Thac0      16
Damage   d6

Saving Throws: 
Paralyzation, Poison or Death Magic: 7
Rod, Staff, or Wand: 11
Petrification or Polymorph: 10
Breath Weapon: 13
Spell:  12
+2 vs. Fire and Lightning, +3 vs. mind affecting spells. 


Class Abilities: 
--Identify Plants, animals, and pure water with 100% accuracy. 
--Immune to charm spells cast by woodland creatures (such as dryads and satyrs.) 
--Pass through overgrown areas at full movement rate and without leaving a trail. 
--Shape change once per day into a real world bird, a real world mammal, and a real world reptile. 

Languages:
Common
Druidic
Elven
Pixie
Satyr

Non-Weapon Proficiencies: 
--Astrology      Intelligence +0/14
--Disguise      Charisma -1/14
--Etiquette      Charisma +0/15
--Healing      Wisdom -2/15
--Herbalisim      Intelligence -1/12
--Heraldry      Intelligence +0/14
--Local History      Charisma +0/15
--Weather Sense   Wisdom -1/16

Weapon Proficiencies:
Sickle
Sling
Staff



Spells/Day
4th
1

3rd level
1
2
3

2nd level
1
2
3
4
5

1st level
1
2
3
4
5

Player Background:
 
Oakley Pennington (who was not named after the sunglasses he'll have you know) is the only child of an influential environmental lawyer and a professional sailboat racer who grew up in an extremely affluent area of Connecticut. He is not only a trust fund baby, he is a trust fund baby going back several generations. In fact it has been centuries since a Pennington has had to do anything they didn't want to do. Naturally the family feels they are the most knowledgable about how the world could possibly be run and imagine themselves to be the best and the brightest.

Oakley went to schools that didn't believe in grades and harped on about social justice and equality to classes composed entirely of the rich and privileged. He is now attending the same college as the other players and is genuinely regarded as insufferable but tolerated because of his seemingly limitless funds and also the impression that despite his pompous attitude he really is a decent guy if you get to know him and can get him to shut up about whatever fashionable micro-struggle he's currently going on about.

Oakley is single and has seemingly never expressed any sexual or romantic interest in another human being as far as anyone can tell. Those who care seem split as to whether this is because he considers himself above everyone else or because he's in some closet or another. Lily is a character that wasn't given much backstory when she was rolled up by the group before Oakley came to play. She was an NPC but Oakley decided to take her over, making sure everyone noticed how open minded and secure he was by playing a female character. Once Oakley was convinced to shut up about how the rules should be improved and how the game setting reflected the biases of the creators, he turned out to be a decent guy to play games with.

Character Bio:

Lily's developed bio is that she is the advisor to the local lord who has rule over the forest she protects. She uses her position to influence things and did successfully for several years, ever since she was granted custody of her forest.

How does it look? I have ideas for more detailed "character" bio but I'd like to be sort of a "secret" in that the players don't realize she has such a history until Oakley finds himself in her body.

If I could get some feedback about this at this point I would very much appreciate it!

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #46 on: December 22, 2012, 02:56:15 PM »
  Perhaps Lilly is either court druid too, or the aprentice to court druid too, a human nobleman who has been a patron to our group?

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone? (Closed)
« Reply #47 on: December 22, 2012, 03:55:04 PM »
I like her. :)

The only concern I have is that she might loose that influencial position in the course of the game, but we'll see how she does at maintaining it. 

Muse has a good suggestion, I would give some consideration to not keeping the background secret since the party has been adventuring together for some time and personal history has a way of coming out in the normal course of things, particularly if a character is use to being a power among the nobility.

I think that there's a little error in the experience to next level. Level 7 is 40K, so I'm not entirely sure that the next level is just 20K away. I'll check on that.

The good stuff...magical items. Lilly gets... Drum roll please...

Boots of Speed and +1 shield


BTW: I'll need a list of the spells that she "usually" has available. If something changes in the list, just let me know.
Now, if you would be so good as to post Lilly/Oakley to the OOC board. :)
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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #48 on: December 22, 2012, 04:35:24 PM »
 mm I'm stuck doing my Char sheet..

But I can come up with my mages' backround  and stuff easily.

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Re: AD&D 2nd Ed anyone?
« Reply #49 on: December 22, 2012, 05:09:30 PM »
Okay, posty posting it over to that thread. I'll add some of the history stuff as I do.