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Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2008, 07:52:33 PM »
Just a thought but Japanese High Schools include teens aged 15 in their first year, 10th grade over there, so characters would need to be second or third years, 11/12th grades aged 16 or 17 - could have had their 18th birthday part way through third year I guess.

Its just a thought considering this sites age restrictions on characters.

How is this a problem, even if absolute accuracy is the board mod's goal?   Site restrictions are 16+ for characters.

Offline Haibane

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2008, 05:35:11 AM »
Site restrictions are 16+ for characters.
Some high school students are under 16.

Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2008, 07:33:10 AM »
Some high school students are under 16.

Yes . . . (that's been accounted for in every high school era game/board on the site - check out "X-Men: Unsung Heroes", "Hogwarts: Visions", "Hogwarts: Students Having Fun", the original "Hentai High", and "Yaoi Academy" for examples)
« Last Edit: June 11, 2008, 07:43:05 AM by Vandren »

Offline Haibane

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2008, 09:37:21 AM »
Okay, thank you! ^_^ Stupid of me to realise you guys wouldn't have overcome all that by now.

*realizes she needs to stop acting like a know-it-all and promise to act like a n00b*

Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2008, 11:19:38 AM »
No worries.

It's a legitimate point of concern (U.S. high schools run ages 14-18), but one we've dealt with a fair amount since it's a popular genre.  I'm counting at least three high school game requests in GMs Wanted alone, probably 2-3x that many in One-on-Ones and Players Wanted, just looking at post titles.  :)
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Re: Hentai High
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2008, 04:01:01 PM »
Rude people who respond badly to a simple question about the rules don't tend to last very long on Elliquiy anyway... :)

Are y'all looking at restarting this existing game or making another one from scratch?

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Re: Hentai High
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2008, 07:46:52 PM »
Not sure that anyone's taken a lead on this, or even gotten to that point.

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Re: Hentai High
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2008, 09:00:14 PM »
Rude people who respond badly to a simple question about the rules don't tend to last very long on Elliquiy anyway... :)

Are y'all looking at restarting this existing game or making another one from scratch?

I'll struggle to resist the snarky reply to the first, but it's a close thing.  :)

So far, it looks like a probable re-start, but everyone seems to have stepped forward to play, not to organize the thing.  I haven't done so due to time and a probable move of locations offline on my part, but not sure on the others.

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Re: Hentai High
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2008, 09:50:08 PM »
I [like to think I] am highly adept at not only cleanly catching snark thrown at me, but also pulling the pin and lobbing it back. :)

I had noticed that Celestial Goblin doesn't appear to have weighed in here, and since he's the mod of the currently existing board, had wondered if that was the reason. If someone hasn't already, may I suggest a courtesy PM from whomever ends up running this just to make sure he's aware and okay with what's going on?

Offline Chris Brady

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2008, 04:08:03 PM »
It was a planned reboot, I believe.

But Celestial Goblin hasn't responded to any sort of prodding, so it was assumed (Perhaps incorrectly) that it was abandoned.

Offline Haibane

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2008, 04:33:04 PM »
So, if I can try to understand please...? This game was planned once before, it stalled then after a hiatus it was planned again and has stalled again, yes? Or did the first game actually start, and if it did can anyone give me a link to the thread(s). Thank you! ^_^

Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2008, 04:37:35 PM »
Here's the link again (I think someone posted it earlier in the thread, but I could be mistaken): http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?board=34.0

The original stared up in May 2005 and ran until October 2006.  So, this would be a restart to one degree or another.  As I see it from the thread, the two questions are: 1) Who is going to take charge/run management for the reboot and 2) How much of a reboot would/should it be-total clean slate or using some amount of the earlier background?

Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2008, 12:10:37 PM »
Just thought I'd pass these thoughts on here:

I've been tossing around an idea for the last month or so that's similar to Hentai High in some ways.  Basically, it's partially inspired by Steven Brust (in that the setting's a floating castle), partially by the "Sally Potter" comic (a few full versions of which can be found on imagefap.com), partially by some ideas I had years ago, partially by Rowling, and partially by the landscape of western Ireland.

Anyway, basically it's a single very large castle divided between a high school and a college for supernatural beings (including Elves, Dwarves, Ogres, Centaurs, and others as well as Humans with a talent for sorcery or witchcraft--which I've defined as two rather different arts).  I've been debating whether to use it purely for my own fictional writing or to bring it over here for a board.  It's not quite H.High, but similar enough that I thought some folks in this thread might be interested as an alternative.

(Addendum: For mods, etc. - It's not my intention to hijack this thread and I do intend to put up a Wanted-Players if necessary, I just figured this would be the place to bounce off a particular audience.  If there are problems, mea culpa, I'll bugger off. :) )
« Last Edit: June 24, 2008, 02:44:34 PM by Vandren »

Offline Arlyn

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2008, 12:49:01 PM »
Have to admit, I like Vandren's idea a lot more than just a standard Hentai High setting.

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Re: Hentai High
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2008, 04:02:57 PM »
I'll second that, especially if we limit it to the "seniors" in a high school, intermixing with the college students because they're taking advanced classes, that gives us the 18 age group, and then allows for us to vary everything else. I'd really like to see it put up and running, and would sign up to play a human sorceror with draconic heritage.

Offline Chris Brady

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2008, 06:32:45 PM »
Actually...

There's a Shoujo manga series called 'Love Monster', and it's pretty racy almost 'girl porn', but the story behind it is that the main female lead gets sent to this school in the mountains where she discovers that all of the students and faculty are 'monsters' as in Ghosts, Werewolves, Tengu and all other sorts of creatures.

There are even Vampires there of all stripes, so...

Why not mix both this and Vandren's idea together?

Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2008, 09:52:22 PM »
Ghosts, Werewolves, Tengu and all other sorts of creatures.

There are even Vampires there of all stripes, so...

Why not mix both this and Vandren's idea together?

Already have werecritters, vampires, and spirits worked in.  :)  Actually, I almost always include werecritters, but that's another story.  Basically on intelligent species I've factored in:

Humans
Constructs (Golems, Gargoyles, etc.)
Dwarves (more Nordic based)
Elves (both working fae and noble fae, sort of)
Giants
Hybrids (Centaurs, Satyrs, Fauns, Merfolk, etc.)
Nymphs (Greek, probably not suitable as PCs)
Ogres
Spirits (Ghosts, Ascended Beings, etc.)
Trolls (again more Nordic based)
Vampires
Werebeasts
Mixed Breeds (half-X and half-Y, not entirely common, but present)

I hadn't planned on intelligent dragons, though.  But, I'd be willing to reconsider if a good case is made.

My plan was/is to say that sorcery and witchcraft require talent.  The former is genetically based, the latter isn't.  Both talents are most common in the Human population, though present (if rather rare) in the non-Human population--and incompatible with werebeast genes, vampirism, and constructs for various reasons.

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Re: Hentai High
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2008, 10:34:34 PM »
Two things,

Spirits should be NPC's only as teachers, etc.

And Sorcery should be more powerful Solo, while witchcraft is more powerful as a group thing. It tends to be that witches require groups, and sorcery is an innate wild talent. You occasionally find the rare old witch by themselves, but that;s because their older than dirt. If we're playing young PC's, then witchcraft would require several seperations of power, etc.

Isn't witchcraft ritual and spells, while Sorcery is just the direct manifestation of power? It really depends on how you look at it. I'd be interested to hear how you deliniate the two beyond just genetic and non-genetic.

Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2008, 11:27:40 PM »
Spirits should be NPCs only as teachers, etc.

This I don't agree with, mostly because I don't see the logic behind it.

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And Sorcery should be more powerful Solo, while witchcraft is more powerful as a group thing. It tends to be that witches require groups, and sorcery is an innate wild talent. You occasionally find the rare old witch by themselves, but that;s because their older than dirt. If we're playing young PCs, then witchcraft would require several separations of power, etc.

I'm not sure where this comes from.  Historically, most Western witches operated alone (I've been reading a lot of 14th-17th century trial accounts over the last two years).  I've not really seen the requirement of a group in fiction outside of bad occult/horror movies, books influenced by them, and Charmed (a show I detest, despite Rose McGowan's and Alyssa Milano's respective cleavages; even then most witches seem to work alone).  :)

Obviously, multiple witches/shamen could work together to pool their talent, resources, and whatnot.  Then again, so could sorcerers (as they have in various works of fiction).

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Isn't witchcraft ritual and spells, while Sorcery is just the direct manifestation of power? It really depends on how you look at it. I'd be interested to hear how you delineate the two beyond just genetic and non-genetic.

That depends on the world in question.  For Fritz Leiber (Conjure Wife), witchcraft is basically rituals and herbalism.  For Rowling (Harry Potter series), witchcraft is basically High Fantasy magic.  For Michael Moorcock (Elric series especially), sorcery is about making pacts with extra-planar beings who are then called upon.  Historically, witchcraft has been a mix of herbalism, midwifery, and (according to detractors) demonic pacts; it's also a term that's been used interchangably with "magic," "sorcery," "wizardry," and "shamanism" to the point that there's virtually no difference between the terms in general usage.  Only certain specialized groups line neo-pagans, gamers, and some authors differentiate between the terms anymore.

This is probably easier for explaining.  I've posted all the general world info I have in mind in one of my old game boards:
http://elliquiy.com/forums/index.php?board=71.0 - Sorcery University (NCEF)
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Re: Hentai High
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2008, 12:18:57 AM »
I appreciate the explination. I'd contest that witchcraft would be genetic at all. As you'd mentioned earlier, "My plan was/is to say that sorcery and witchcraft require talent.  The former is genetically based, the latter isn't", witchcraft can be learned without genetics, so wouldn't it be more of a trade taught throughout the ages to aspiring persons?

Also, I agree with the definitions of power. Normally I'd contest that sorcery requires a focus, but because we're only allowing high magic in one class, I'll gladly overlook that. A sorceror using a wand, magic words/gestures would be fine to a Witch/Warlock using conjured spirits or spirits bound through pacts etc. mixed with some herbalism.

Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2008, 10:36:34 AM »
Sorry if the quote function is annoying, I find it helps me ensure that I cover everything.  :)

I appreciate the explination. I'd contest that witchcraft would be genetic at all. As you'd mentioned earlier, "My plan was/is to say that sorcery and witchcraft require talent.  The former is genetically based, the latter isn't", witchcraft can be learned without genetics, so wouldn't it be more of a trade taught throughout the ages to aspiring persons?

Not in the case of this setting.  Sure, anyone could go through the motions, but that's exactly what they'd be, motions.  With the talent (e.g. the ability to speak with, and enforce agreements with, spirits), the motions actually have effects.

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Also, I agree with the definitions of power. Normally I'd contest that sorcery requires a focus, but because we're only allowing high magic in one class, I'll gladly overlook that. A sorceror using a wand, magic words/gestures would be fine to a Witch/Warlock using conjured spirits or spirits bound through pacts etc. mixed with some herbalism.

The sorcery and focus thing is something that I play around with in different settings.  Usually I end up using it because the requirement of a focus places a limitation on sorcery, which could otherwise become very powerful (despite other limitations).  And, for note, spirit binding is a whole other ballgame in this setting - for everyday usage, a witch/shaman might prevail upon a nature spirit to cause rain for a time (less than a day) or to light a fire (a few seconds), but binding a spirit to a person/object is another story entirely.  At least in this setting.  :)


Offline Chris Brady

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2008, 12:41:10 AM »
I'm going to withdraw from this, as apparently we got someone who has definite ideas for a reboot, and probably more time to focus on this.

Have fun, guys.

Offline Vandren

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2008, 01:30:53 PM »
Actually, I've withdrawn from it in effect.

Offline Chris Brady

Re: Hentai High
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Offline DreadD

Re: Hentai High
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2008, 09:30:47 PM »
That does seem rather interesting, if people wanted to I might bother learning it >_>


Actually, at this point, it seems like we really need to hammer out what people want in this.  Do they want a school filled with demons and creepy erotic gothic horrors?  Or are they more looking for a happy-go-lucky half-dressed catgirls and horribly bishi elves sort of setting?  And do people even want to handle the constraints of 'rules'?  And does anyone want to run it?  I mean, as it seems like no one does, I will try to get it off the ground, but anyone wanting to 'take charge' is free to do so.
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