To be frank, men are already in it for child support and so on and have no option to opt out like women do, except in a few states. Men's Rights in this issue is effectively being treated as a devolved power, except where there are pushes to eliminate it by feminists (and by 'feminists' I mean 'NOW'). This makes me instantly suspicious of any equivalence argument: Yes, men are just as responsible as women in a biological sense, but they are not given an equal opportunity to opt out of that responsibility. So why should they be treated as if they are just as responsible for a decision where they have less say and less rights than a woman?
I can't speak for other women, but if I personally made the decision to have a child, regardless of what that child's father wanted, I wouldn't expect him to pay anything. However, if that father agreed to have the kids, and then refused to assist, I'd feel differently.
Regardless, I'm not sure how you got of the opinion women's diseases aren't dealt with as much as men's: women have gynecologists, the male equivalent (andrologist) is nowhere near as widespread. Breast cancer (a disease which affects women more than a hundred times than men) is better funded than prostate cancer despite the fact they kill about the same amount each year and prostate cancer has fewer survivors. And even within breast cancer funding very little of it goes to breast cancer in men. Suicide is by and by large a male problem and yet it is underfunded (and, if I recall, it's getting cut as well). Women also have better access to healthcare: the last study I saw had 74% of men having some kind of insurance, with 86% of women having some kind of insurance.
Oh, and there's the fact women outlive men by a significant margin. I would find it awfully curious if a group which had less attention paid to its health issues outlived one that didn't.
I'm sorry, but there are many articles and studies to show that women's health issues are often pushed aside, by themselves, by their doctors, and by the health community at large. Without drowning this thread with links, here's just one:http://www.emaxhealth.com/4/4686.html
Medscape dot org cites studies that show that since 1984, 20% - 40% more women die of heart diease than men, mostly because they are under diagnosed and undertreated and yet only in the past two years has this issue been getting any attention. That is not to say that there aren't problems with men's medicine as well. There certainly are. One of my colleagues was just diagnosed with prostate cancer, and the doctor's recommendations are like breast cancer surgery in the 50's - radical and invasive surgery. Why take just the breast when you can take nearly the entire arm? There's a really good book on the subject actually, Invasion of the Prostate Snatchers
You are entitled to your own opinions. You, however, must either defend your opinion on rational or empirical grounds or admit that the opinion is entirely constructed of whole cloth and sustained by blind faith, I'm afraid. [/mini-rant 2]
The invention of viagra and all its clones alone shows that men's sex issues are taken more seriously than women's . Several pills for men for years, and yet, only one that addresses the decrease of a woman's sex drive. Sadly, sexism occurs in doctor's offices just as much as anywhere else. Against both genders.
Back on topic: Contraception is definitely not a woman's rights issue. It is a reproductive rights issue, but men have reproductive rights too, even if they're ignored more often. And this is a blow to the reproductive rights of both genders.
Agreed. I have changed the title of the thread to reflect this.
Anyhow, my intent with this thread, to make people aware of Walker's other attacks on rights, has been met. So, I'll leave it to the rest of you if you wish to continue to discuss it.