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Offline The Overlord

Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2009, 10:03:51 PM »
This was like the mid-80's IIRC. She met her future husband, my uncle, out there in the midst of it all. I believe he was in the same cult, and in a sense I'm not convinced they entirely left the mindset.

They are in Texas today, and heavily involved in a local Christian church. She's definitely in the Golden Boy Bush camp; can't shake her of the opinion that he was a great president. In fact, as far as she's concerned, Texas has the most right of any state to secede, and if they did she's fine with 'Dubya' as president of Texas.

Needless to say, there's been some very heated arguments via email in the past 12-15 months over the presidential election. The icing on the cake for me was a Hitler-Obama comparison, which she later apologized for and said she was having a 'bad day', but the damage was done.

It prompted retorts from most of the family, and where I used to think she was just blind and needed to pull her head out of the f***ing sand, now I think she's genuinely nuts. I know she's family and we're supposed to be there for each other, but at times I'm embarrassed by her.


If the markedly different theology and politics weren't enough, they are horrible at deciding the most mundane crap, like what restaurant do you want to go eat at this evening. We mark it up to flashbacks from the cult days, when all their decisions were made for them...this is an annoyance factor for others in the extended family.

Few family members have made me so red-faced and wanting to smash something just by communicating by email. Grrr....Overlord angry, cults baddddd. Cults bad... Okay?
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Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2009, 10:39:15 PM »
Look, now correct me if I'm wrong, but did these people enter some sort of whacknut legal contract or not?

The thing that got lost here was the fact that the people signing were as young as twelve.  I don't know about you, but at twelve, I was hardly the most worldly-wise person out there, and knew next to nothing about what my rights were.  If someone in authority handed me something to sign, and my parents said I needed to sign it, I would have signed it.  If I was later told that it meant I was required to do X, Y, and Z, all because I signed it, I probably would have believed it.

There's a reason that kids that young aren't allowed to enter into legal contracts.

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Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2009, 10:49:10 PM »
The thing that got lost here was the fact that the people signing were as young as twelve.  I don't know about you, but at twelve, I was hardly the most worldly-wise person out there, and knew next to nothing about what my rights were.  If someone in authority handed me something to sign, and my parents said I needed to sign it, I would have signed it.  If I was later told that it meant I was required to do X, Y, and Z, all because I signed it, I probably would have believed it.

There's a reason that kids that young aren't allowed to enter into legal contracts.


OK, solid point, that did get lost in the course of conversation.

And that makes cults preying on children for signups little better than pedos.

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Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2009, 10:51:10 PM »
*nods vigorously*  Right with you on that point.

Offline Rhapsody

Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2009, 09:36:22 PM »
You want to know what Scientology is capable of?  Go look up Lisa McPherson.  Or Clearwater, Florida.  Or Jeff Jacobson.  Operation Freakout.  Operation Snow White.  Dozens of other names I can't think of at the moment, because it's late. 

The thing that really gets me is this: these people successfully infiltrated the American government... and the IRS turns around and allows them to be a tax-free organization, because of their pseudo-religious bullshit claiming that they're a Church.

Offline Tachi

Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2009, 09:40:35 PM »
Strange. I see no incentive to join and find it odd that anyone would even consider it.

Offline Rhapsody

Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2009, 09:44:07 PM »
Let us hope they never find this thread.  For they can and will sue because we're all detractors of the Faith.  *eyeroll*

Offline Elayne

Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2009, 12:58:32 AM »
I don't know if it's especially germane to the topic, but I saw a pretty funny article from Cracked about Scientology.  They've got a couple of hilarious bashes.

http://www.cracked.com/article_16337_l-ron-hubbards-5-most-impressive-lies-besides-scientology.html

http://www.cracked.com/article_17448_scientologys-5-newest-celebrity-recruits.html

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Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2009, 05:46:01 AM »
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They've got pretty good odds, too, considering 16-year-olds will believe all sorts of stupid stuff you tell them, including "I'm only gonna put the tip in," "Of course I love you" and "trust me, this is the only way to clear your Thetans. Now flip over."

Priceless!

Offline RubySlippers

Re: Project Sea Arghhh! II The World Wide Scientology Protest
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2009, 11:06:59 AM »
You want to know what Scientology is capable of?  Go look up Lisa McPherson.  Or Clearwater, Florida.  Or Jeff Jacobson.  Operation Freakout.  Operation Snow White.  Dozens of other names I can't think of at the moment, because it's late. 

The thing that really gets me is this: these people successfully infiltrated the American government... and the IRS turns around and allows them to be a tax-free organization, because of their pseudo-religious bullshit claiming that they're a Church.

The Universal Life Church is said to be the same thing, but the First Amendment in the US Constitution gives religion a wide berth when it comes to government interference. Thankfully since people want seperation of Church and State one can't have a no hands on policy and then turn around and easily dictate what is a good religion or a bad one.

If they are commiting illegal actions then the government could investigate them and act but what is the difference between confirming a child at twelve and what they are doing I consider both abusive but one can be done by legal well known churches and the other Scientologists.

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