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Mithlomwen

I sit here and wonder how history will remember all of this. 

Like.....in 50 years, kids sitting in school, teacher trying to teach them about this.....what can only be described as a gigantic cluster fu**. 

How in the hell do you even begin to explain this to someone??
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legomaster00156

I know how it will be remembered. 2015-2021: The time America flirted with fascism.

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I've had a hard enough time trying to explain this shit-show to my 10th grade students now, who have the benefit of seeing it all unfold on news and social media. Future students will instead get the historical, heavily compressed version. Might be even more confusing, without understanding the present-day context and unique political landscape.
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Quote from: Mithlomwen on November 23, 2020, 11:37:09 AM
I sit here and wonder how history will remember all of this. 

Like.....in 50 years, kids sitting in school, teacher trying to teach them about this.....what can only be described as a gigantic cluster fu**. 

How in the hell do you even begin to explain this to someone??

Say "I was there for the darkest chapter of American History. We thought we had learned from the mistakes of the past but that was not true." Sounds like a good opener to me.

TheGlyphstone

"2016 was the beginning of the New America, when the corrupt old order was torn down and replaced with the true future of our great nation. If you think this to be revisionist history, the Holy Inquisition would like to discuss your heretical and treasonous beliefs with you."

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gaggedLouise

Quote from: legomaster00156 on November 23, 2020, 11:42:24 AM
I know how it will be remembered. 2015-2021: The time America flirted with fascism.

Mmm, and it's not over yet, though I tbink Biden's win averted a long-term disaster. The end of the beginning, hopefully (to quote Churchill).

The last dozen years really have brought to a head the tension over the place of the US in the world, and what kind of nation Americans think the US should be. Trump squarely wants a late 19th century style America, with the thinking, the racism and the unrestrained "anything goes for a dollar" attitude of those days, but with the luxuries and media cosmos of today. It was a world where the concepts of equal human rights and labour rights were all but unknown, where truth was easy to shut down and where most people would look the other way when abuses happened. And a world where white supremacy was taken for granted. Obama, for all his shortcomings, represented an effort to move definitely towards a post-90%-white and post-Thatcherist America.

Quote from: Norwegian One on November 23, 2020, 11:47:00 AM
I've had a hard enough time trying to explain this shit-show to my 10th grade students now, who have the benefit of seeing it all unfold on news and social media. Future students will instead get the historical, heavily compressed version. Might be even more confusing, without understanding the present-day context and unique political landscape.

Trump will be of massive interest to future historians and politologists, both American and from overseas; no US president in the last hundred years has put the inherited system to such hard stress tests, such blunt assaults as he has.

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Haibane

And the hits just keep on comin'. Its official, Michigan is blue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55052640

Laughing Hyena

I know right?! The nightmare is slowly but surely ending! The cancer is starting to be cleared so the kimo can begin!

Hades

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html

The head of the General Services Administration (GSA) has finally sent the letter necessary for Biden and his transition team to access government funding, offices and personnel, and I assume for Biden to start receiving the daily presidential intelligence briefings. 

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Quote from: Hades on November 23, 2020, 05:29:03 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html

The head of the General Services Administration (GSA) has finally sent the letter necessary for Biden and his transition team to access government funding, offices and personnel, and I assume for Biden to start receiving the daily presidential intelligence briefings.

Not surprised: Rep Katie Porter was all set to grill her over the issue and she refused to show up. I think she realized she was/is in hot water over the delay.

Haibane

Trump tweeted after the letter was sent:

"I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused -- and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA."

Maybe the harassment, threats and abuse were from Republicans telling her she really should just do the right thing? Is anyone here aware of any Democrats who have "harassed, threatened, and abused" her over the lack of a decision?

Sara Nilsson

Knowing people there is bound to be democrats that have done so.

Its the internet, people harass others over nothing. Lets not pretend we don't have assholes too. Just.. hopefully fewer ones :) I mean people send death threats to reporters for reporting about a game delay.
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Quote from: Hades on November 23, 2020, 05:29:03 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/politics/transition-biden-gsa-begin/index.html

The head of the General Services Administration (GSA) has finally sent the letter necessary for Biden and his transition team to access government funding, offices and personnel, and I assume for Biden to start receiving the daily presidential intelligence briefings.

No, GSA only controls email domains, office space, money, and background checks on appointed positions. It's at the discretion of POTUS when President-Elect Biden will start getting the Presidential Daily Brief. Knowing the current shitbag, that probably won't happen until January 21st.

Sara Nilsson

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-concerned-with-legal-team-giuliani-rudy-election-sidney-powell-2020-11

QuotePresident Donald Trump is frustrated with how his legal team has been handling the election fight, NBC News reported on Monday.

Trump has become worried that his team is made up of "fools that are making him look bad," one official told NBC.

Nooooo.. really? Such perception, much wisdom.
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Quote from: Haibane on November 23, 2020, 05:39:02 PM
Trump tweeted after the letter was sent:

"I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused -- and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA."

Maybe the harassment, threats and abuse were from Republicans telling her she really should just do the right thing? Is anyone here aware of any Democrats who have "harassed, threatened, and abused" her over the lack of a decision?

I bet Trump got a lot of help in formulating/writing that double tweet in response to the confirmation by the GSA. If he head been left to himself it would have come out much more unhinged and with shouts of "TREASON!" etc. ;)

Before that point he had been silent on Twitter the entire day - another sign that his activity on the platform was being vetted and controlled to avoid any mess-ups.

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Quote from: Haibane on November 23, 2020, 05:39:02 PM
Maybe the harassment, threats and abuse were from Republicans telling her she really should just do the right thing? Is anyone here aware of any Democrats who have "harassed, threatened, and abused" her over the lack of a decision?

I'm sure if it came to light that Democrats had done it we would have heard about it by now.  Though it does seem Murphy has been professional if intransigent up until now.  She'll do her job well and make it possible now for the transition to go ahead.  Biden has been quite, hopefully because he knows the spot she has been in, and because he is a gentleman.

Haibane

Quote from: gaggedLouise on November 24, 2020, 04:30:02 AM
Before that point he had been silent on Twitter the entire day - another sign that his activity on the platform was being vetted and controlled to avoid any mess-ups.

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gaggedLouise

Quote from: Haibane on November 24, 2020, 07:13:37 AM
Mummy took away baby's rattle to give herself some peace and quiet.

Perhaps it was even the other way around here - Eric or Ivanka taking away Poppa Trump's phone?

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Haibane

We are in the middle of a terrible health crisis so the man in charge deserves some time to relax and play a few rounds of golf. It's only fair to cut the great man some slack. He's worked hard all year promoting himself and making up huge whoppers so a break is deserved.

Haibane

Governor Tom Wolf has announced he has certified the victory of Joe Biden in Pennsylvania.

Oniya

Quote from: gaggedLouise on November 24, 2020, 07:27:48 AM
Perhaps it was even the other way around here - Eric or Ivanka taking away Poppa Trump's phone?

All depends on who is the 'adult' in the family.  Maybe Pence slipped the phone into a different drawer and Trump still hasn't found it.  'Put out a statement on the President's Twitter.  Make it coherent.'
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Quote from: Haibane on November 24, 2020, 03:12:21 PM
Governor Tom Wolf has announced he has certified the victory of Joe Biden in Pennsylvania.

That's fantastic news Haibane. Now if only the FBI and CIA or interpol does a full public investigation on this ex president, I shall be happy. If nothing is found then that's fine but I'm sure there is. He's been taking America for a ride and exposing this is the only way to detox loved ones brainwashed by him.

gaggedLouise

Quote from: Haibane on November 24, 2020, 03:12:21 PM
Governor Tom Wolf has announced he has certified the victory of Joe Biden in Pennsylvania.

Going, going...Gone! :)

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