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Offline Vanity Evolved

Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2012, 05:27:16 AM »
It's perfectly addressable, and if you want to address it you should do so.

Namely, that if government recognition of marriage is supposed to be for supporting children, it should instead focus on supporting pregnant mothers and child-rearing. Neither of which requires a heterosexual arrangement.

This.

Offline NotoriusBEN

Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2012, 09:34:03 AM »
I guess if you had to have a reason to disallow gay marriage its that tax laws make it so the government wouldn't be able to collect as much taxes on a married couple over two individuals.
That is the only reason I can think of and it's pretty petty, but that's government for you.

Like what was said on page 1.
If they want to be as miserable as the rest of the married people out there, let 'em.

Offline TaintedAndDelish

Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2012, 11:15:32 AM »
That's sexual discrimination.

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2012, 05:26:48 PM »
I say all marriages should be between two people and a cheese sandwich. :P

In all seriousness though, I swear people are just making up arguments against it just for fun these days. None of them ever have any level of evidence to back them up.

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2012, 01:58:05 PM »
I say all marriages should be between two people and a cheese sandwich. :P

In all seriousness though, I swear people are just making up arguments against it just for fun these days. None of them ever have any level of evidence to back them up.

I post on a political forums and under the politics sections of other boards (under different usernames, of course).  Unfortunately, there's still a bunch of homophobes out there, and not just the ultra-religious ones; some of them just think that gay male sex is gross, or are worried that gay guys will flirt with/hit on them now that a lot of them are out of the closet.  Interestingly, they don't extend this same fear and hate towards lesbians.

I'm pretty convinced that a lot of hardcore homophobes are very insecure.
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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #55 on: November 18, 2012, 03:24:21 PM »
I don't think it's that kind of insecurity to be honest. I think it's social insecurity, unless you're talking about those leaders of ex-gay ministries who are the most closeted s.o.b.s on the planet. Anyway, people have this idea of normalcy, anything that goes against that is disturbing.This is true of anything that upsets what they believe to be the proper order of things. They also resent the perceived special attention these groups are getting without remembering how much privilege they actually have.

Also, many guys, myself included, think girl on girl is hot. Thus lesbians are immune to many forms of homophobia.

I find the idea of two men getting it on far less than pleasing in aesthetic sense, but there are things that are more important than aesthetics such as basic human rights.  So as long as they aren't doing it in front of me I don't care. There's no logical reason to treat them as lesser.

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2012, 05:37:19 PM »
If the activity on various scan and fanfic sites is any indicator, many girls find guy-on-guy to be pretty hot, too, although they tend to go for written and/or illustrated erotica/smut, rather than live-action.

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2012, 05:42:34 PM »
If the activity on various scan and fanfic sites is any indicator, many girls find guy-on-guy to be pretty hot, too, although they tend to go for written and/or illustrated erotica/smut, rather than live-action.

That's because yaoi doesn't involve all the nasty, sweaty, jiggly truths of man sex. They probably think buttsecks works every time, even by surprise. Silly. Women :3

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2012, 05:44:21 PM »
If the activity on various scan and fanfic sites is any indicator, many girls find guy-on-guy to be pretty hot, too, although they tend to go for written and/or illustrated erotica/smut, rather than live-action.

Ah, but the right (as far as an unjust society is concerned) to decide who gets the short end of the stick belongs to the group in power in any given society and those men who hate them are often the power group.

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2012, 05:45:08 PM »
That's because yaoi doesn't involve all the nasty, sweaty, jiggly truths of man sex. They probably think buttsecks works every time, even by surprise. Silly. Women :3

True enough, but I doubt lesbian sex is quite the same as what they show in the pornos.  ;D

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2012, 05:51:24 PM »
True enough, but I doubt lesbian sex is quite the same as what they show in the pornos.  ;D

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2012, 09:03:35 PM »

Also, many guys, myself included, think girl on girl is hot. Thus lesbians are immune to many forms of homophobia.



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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2012, 09:06:23 PM »
*gags Oniya* Lies! Lies and blasphemy! Ignore the heretic! *whispers* Seriously be careful...There's an inquisition. *looks around in a paranoid fashion*

Nobody expects the Lesbian Inquisition?

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2012, 09:22:24 PM »

Also, many guys, myself included, think girl on girl is hot. Thus lesbians are immune to many forms of homophobia.

I find the idea of two men getting it on far less than pleasing in aesthetic sense, but there are things that are more important than aesthetics such as basic human rights.  So as long as they aren't doing it in front of me I don't care. There's no logical reason to treat them as lesser.

*Sigh* So many men, thinking with the wrong head.

Not directed at you, just at irrational people.
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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2012, 09:31:48 PM »



Nobody expects the Lesbian Inquisition?

Torch-Those aren't all Lesbian though and the porn does exist so.... I'd still rather look at those two regardless of whether they resemble porn stars or not.

Glyph-No one ever does, but they aren't the only inquisition out there that- *claps a hand over his own mouth* I almost told you too much. You heard nothing! You saw nothing! *looks around again then ducks into hiding*

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2012, 09:46:28 PM »
That's because yaoi doesn't involve all the nasty, sweaty, jiggly truths of man sex. They probably think buttsecks works every time, even by surprise. Silly. Women :3

Some of us women actually prefer watching the nasty, sweaty, Crisco-drenched reality of hot man-on-man sex.

Just sayin'....  ::)

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Re: Why marriage equality should be opposed
« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2012, 10:00:10 PM »
Wish we got the never-fail anywhere-anal though.