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Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #625 on: January 14, 2012, 11:50:57 AM »
If you want armor skills to increase, you have to get hit without blocking.

So go find a mudcrab and let it claw you for a few hours. Or, if you're more adventurous (and have 500+ armor), let a giant slap you around.

Got smithing up to 80 last night.. BUT can't find any Ebony ore/ingots anywhere.. Got 1 dedric heart stuck aside...still pondering.. going to Dedric.. or save up two perks and go for dragonbone for armor.. since i KNOW i can get that stuff.

Offline Sabby

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #626 on: January 14, 2012, 11:55:28 AM »
I started stockpiling bits of dead Dragon from the start xD didn't even know there was item crafting back then, just knew they'd be important at some point. Figured some High Elf collector or something would hire me.

Offline Driskoll

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #627 on: January 14, 2012, 01:19:03 PM »
Got smithing up to 80 last night.. BUT can't find any Ebony ore/ingots anywhere.. Got 1 dedric heart stuck aside...still pondering.. going to Dedric.. or save up two perks and go for dragonbone for armor.. since i KNOW i can get that stuff.

Ebony ore you say? I know just the place. Of course if you want to find it on your own I can respect that, but who wants to wait for Daedric armor?

Offline Shjade

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #628 on: January 14, 2012, 02:32:38 PM »
As a note, Daedric armor is better than Dragonbone in pretty much every way, and there aren't any dragon weapons to craft, so if you go the heavy armor smithing route taking a perk in Dragon crafting is pretty much a waste.

Offline Driskoll

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #629 on: January 14, 2012, 02:57:43 PM »
I still don't understand the decision to not allow players to make dragon bone weapons. I'm almost positive every other crafting tree has the ability to do so. I hope they'll put them in game in one of the dlc's, even if that is a total ripoff.   

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #630 on: January 14, 2012, 03:02:42 PM »
As a note, Daedric armor is better than Dragonbone in pretty much every way, and there aren't any dragon weapons to craft, so if you go the heavy armor smithing route taking a perk in Dragon crafting is pretty much a waste.
I know, but I'm trying to improve on my orkish/dwarfish mix. 

Offline Chris Brady

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #631 on: January 14, 2012, 03:41:54 PM »
I still don't understand the decision to not allow players to make dragon bone weapons. I'm almost positive every other crafting tree has the ability to do so. I hope they'll put them in game in one of the dlc's, even if that is a total ripoff.   
Leather and Imperial don't I think.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #632 on: January 14, 2012, 03:44:40 PM »
The only perk to Dragonbone armor is that when you've maxed out your smithing, with a maxed smithing enchant and potion, you can get to a CRAZY amount of armor.  As you have to take Daedric on the way to it anyway, there's not much of a reason not to go the extra step, in my book, if you use Heavy Armor.

Offline Shjade

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #633 on: January 14, 2012, 04:27:43 PM »
The only perk to Dragonbone armor is that when you've maxed out your smithing, with a maxed smithing enchant and potion, you can get to a CRAZY amount of armor.  As you have to take Daedric on the way to it anyway, there's not much of a reason not to go the extra step, in my book, if you use Heavy Armor.

Except Daedric armor gives you more armor than Dragonbone, meaning you get crazy amounts of armor without taking the perk in dragonbone. If you look at the guide to doing those maxed out stats with smithing/enchanting/alchemy, the guy who wrote it didn't take the dragonbone perk. You can max out a skill without taking all the perks in it; dragon smithing only adds dragon recipes and the ability to 2x improve them, it doesn't add anything to your other smithing skills. Therefore, you perk up to Daedric and stay there for maximum armor if you're going heavy armor (dragonscale armor is the best light armor, though, if you're going light).

The reason not to go the extra step is to have that extra perk point to use somewhere else where it is actually beneficial.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #634 on: January 14, 2012, 07:35:47 PM »
Except Daedric armor gives you more armor than Dragonbone, meaning you get crazy amounts of armor without taking the perk in dragonbone. If you look at the guide to doing those maxed out stats with smithing/enchanting/alchemy, the guy who wrote it didn't take the dragonbone perk. You can max out a skill without taking all the perks in it; dragon smithing only adds dragon recipes and the ability to 2x improve them, it doesn't add anything to your other smithing skills. Therefore, you perk up to Daedric and stay there for maximum armor if you're going heavy armor (dragonscale armor is the best light armor, though, if you're going light).

The reason not to go the extra step is to have that extra perk point to use somewhere else where it is actually beneficial.

Still have to find the bloody ore and hearts first. :D and who knows I might start finding the hearts. As it is, I'm working my way up and lucked out to find the skill up enchantment.. so once I find the materials for the potion I'll be making one or two of that for the BIG boosts when I get it.

Offline Shjade

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #635 on: January 15, 2012, 10:32:37 AM »
You can get all the hearts you need from two quests: Mehrunes' Razor and the Star of Azura. Razor quest nets 4 hearts minimum, Star nets 3.  That's enough to make a full set of armor, a bow and either a weapon and a shield or two weapons. You can get pretty much all the ebony you need out of Gloombound Mine in one trip.

Offline Chris Brady

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #636 on: January 15, 2012, 10:07:19 PM »
Also, the Daedra in the place where you get Mehrune's respawn regularly and infinitely.

Offline Sabby

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #637 on: January 15, 2012, 10:25:04 PM »
Well this is just cool and also shit at the same time xD Just got the Midas Spell Tome mod, and the spells are amazing, but also totally game breaking.

For instance. Wispmothers. You can summon them at Novice level. Wispmothers cost nothing to Conjure. Wispmothers also kill shit dead in one hit, mostly. Goodbye difficulty :3

But I has a Frost Beam! It's like a laser... made of Frost!

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #638 on: January 15, 2012, 10:26:07 PM »
Well letting the mudcrab hit me has gained me a 71 heavy armor (no weight! Yay!) a 100 block and a 40 restoration. A quick run through a few spots got me a 65 1 hand and enough ore to make 2 Ebony Axes, a full Ebony set of armor and a bow. With a bit of ore set aside for improvements and a bit more to put aside for doing the Dreanic gear.

100+ with an Ebony War Axe is nice

Lopping off the head of every vamp I've run into.. GREAT. It's hilarous.. decaps are rare.. unless it's a ghost or vamp.. then it's lop.. thump.

Offline Shjade

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #639 on: January 15, 2012, 11:05:20 PM »
Some things to note: Ebony 1h axes and maces have the same damage stats as Daedric 1h axes and maces but weigh slightly less. Ebony armor is also only barely weaker than Daedric armor so, if you have issues getting hearts, maxing out improvements on ebony gear is pretty much just as good.

Offline Cold Heritage

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #640 on: January 15, 2012, 11:07:17 PM »
I think ebony armour is also more aesthetically pleasing, though both the daedric and ebony helmets look rather goofy.

Offline Shjade

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #641 on: January 16, 2012, 12:56:43 AM »
I really do like the ebony armor set's look myself, very Dark Knight, but that's more of a subjective thing whereas the numbers are objective. ;p

Related: Ebony armor given a Templar twist for my paladin nord Arienne:
« Last Edit: January 16, 2012, 12:59:58 AM by Shjade »

Offline Chris Brady

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #642 on: January 16, 2012, 01:51:02 PM »
I agree, the Ebony plate gear is the best looking heavy Armour in game, helm and all.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #643 on: January 21, 2012, 01:13:39 AM »
I wish there was an Armor stand in your house. Cause I'd put the spare bits of Ebony armor I've found on it. Hitting the 30s now and mr giant isn't to happy now that my armor skill is near 80 and my block is 100!

Offline Tsenta

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #644 on: January 21, 2012, 01:47:56 AM »
I haven't progressed too far into buying houses but can't you put armor on the mannequins?   I feel way overpowered....max lvl and 500+ dmg a shot with my daedric bow....with 1 sec paralysis and 1sec soul trap...I AM GOD!~

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #645 on: January 21, 2012, 08:10:36 AM »
I wish there was an Armor stand in your house. Cause I'd put the spare bits of Ebony armor I've found on it. Hitting the 30s now and mr giant isn't to happy now that my armor skill is near 80 and my block is 100!
Which your house? Because I think the one in Solitude has stands.

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Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #646 on: January 21, 2012, 09:35:12 AM »
The one in Riften has two in the basement.

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #647 on: January 22, 2012, 05:02:17 PM »
Which your house? Because I think the one in Solitude has stands.

I got just the one.. been runing out of the first capital, trying to get all the shouts and wandering around getting into trouble. :D Got my Deadric weapons.. need just a few more hearts for the last 3 bits of armor.. anything else is cheery. :D

Of course I just got Dawnbringer (sp?) and that is one pretty sword.

Offline Shjade

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #648 on: January 22, 2012, 05:16:08 PM »
I wish the unique weapons could be improved to a point of being worth using compared to ebony/daedric weapons. The Mace of Molag Bal gets pretty close, but for the most part they're just...weak, by comparison. All these pretty flashy unique weapons and I have no reason to use them. :|

Offline Callie Del Noire

Re: The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
« Reply #649 on: January 22, 2012, 05:24:38 PM »
I wish the unique weapons could be improved to a point of being worth using compared to ebony/daedric weapons. The Mace of Molag Bal gets pretty close, but for the most part they're just...weak, by comparison. All these pretty flashy unique weapons and I have no reason to use them. :|

It comes close.. though I admit it and dragonslayer are weak sauce compared to the axes I got.. (by like 6 to 10 points if I figure it right). Of course when you got a 5 in armsman they are all fairly nasty. Axes are bleed weapons for me. :D