Do you think that the Australian government will want to trust a diplomatic corp who can't be relied upon to keep things discreet between governments?
THe need for secrecy itself is a sign of an immature aspiration.
Abe lincon vs nixon.
True leaders don't need less and less of them.
"Secrecy has to part of the diplomatic process" => I disagree.
"Could you honestly expect to achieve any measure of success with antagonistic governments like North Korea if everything is out there for everyone to see?"
Yes. "High North Korea, start showing signs your immobilising against the south and i will slap you so fking silly ... now I have vented ... lets talk agreements"
"Do you need to know what the opening demands an antagonistic government makes in a treaty negotiation?"
Need to know ? THat depends on my intention. If I knew the information my intention will chance. I shouldtn be deemed by another if I am needy or not, and even if I was deemed
not needy that doesnt mean I don't deserve to know. These people represent us...
knowing if they are doing so for large issues doesnt have to be assumed.
IDeally the problem is with the voters. Vote people in who adore transparency and hopefully people could get addicted to it.
"Assange and his friends don't see any limits on privacy." => I disagree
I have not heard mention these documents imply Mrs So and so has genital worts
or loves anal sex.
"Ellsberg did a dangerous thing, stood up to a government and showed ACTUAL conspiracy and lies to Congress and the American people. Assange and his friends at Wikileaks simply released a huge pile of documents that did nothing to change the process and most likely made it harder for the American Government to conduct diplomatic actions through out the world."
Releasing documents without interpreting them i think is a larger gift to the public.
It allows others to intepret them as they wish. What he effectively has done is say
"Look at these - What do they all mean ? - you make the decision"
Some are shameful for military / governments... knowing this helps people ask one question
"Is this working ? is this what we wanted ? Do we want something else ? How could this happen ? Can we readdress roles and responsibility accountability etc"
How long will it be before the folks who DID get mentioned in the released documents are willing to trust the diplomats for fear of some future leak like this.
Issues of trust are interesting. Do I trust a diplomat to serve my intentions ? No.
They serve their own unless thigns are transparent. Secrecy gives more optiosn for them to be selfish or not care about those they effect. I think secrecy causes more harm than good
If a diplomat was doing their job properly - any transparency on their actions wouldnt be shameful simply proof of their position. High ranking government roles. Employ people who follow the transparent process.