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Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« on: January 03, 2007, 12:08:22 PM »
Been batting around this idea for a while, and have actually played it a bit with some friends, but I'm wondering what the creative minds of Elliquiy might do with it.

Those of you familiar with Wicked (either version), McFarlane's Twisted Oz, American McGee's Alice, or Endling's Everafter, that's the feel I'm going for.

What if all we knew about fairytales and stories was wrong? What if, in fact, the truth were much darker, too dark, in fact, for the world to bear? Well, this world, anyway. But the other world? The world of stories and dreams and legends? They live the nightmare, day in and day out.

I'm looking for a group of players, and I'm thinking this will largely be an epic quest/tale sort of game. Players will be asked whether they want their characters to be antagonists or protagonists (I'm careful of saying evil or good, as, well, you'll see)...

As an example, a previous character I've done, and hope to use again for this one, should no one want the "base", as it were...

Base: Tin Man
Allegiance: Protagonist
Description: The Tin Man, or Boq, as he was once called, appears far taller than he was when he was a Munchkin. Almost seven feet tall, he seems to be a man clad in an ornate, sable suit of full plate armor, the only indication of life within him the twin red points of light that emerge from where his eyes should be. In his hand, a giant, black axe easily rests, and clearly he knows how to use it. But, the truth of the matter is... there's nothing inside, for the Tin Man is the suit of armor, what's left of his soul and mind bound to the cage of his armor.
Powers: Aside from being a warrior skilled in the use of his battle-axe, the Tin Man controls the darkness where his heart should be with frightening aptitude (his axe, is, in fact, made from this darkness), and it able to use it in a variety of ways, drawing strength from his lack of remorse or mercy.
Weaknesses (not everyone will have these, I expect): Boq is without a heart. Which is to say, he has no positive feelings-- no hope, no love, no happiness. Only rage, despair, and loneliness, and even these are muted by the time spent without their contrasting emotions. While he does act as if he feels these, it is only because he knows he should act in this manner, and, should he ever free himself from these self-imposed shackles, the monster unleashed will be terrible to behold. As it stands, it is a good thing he doesn't have a conscience, as the only thing which can oil his armor is blood...

Other ideas? Toto as a werewolf? The White Rabbit as a chronomancer? The Beast as... well, the Beast? As long as it makes some sense in relation to the character...

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Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007, 02:58:59 PM »
So we could have something along the lines of Red Riding Hood not being nearly so innocent as she would like everyone to believe?  And by "not so innocent," I mean something along the lines of "slut".  Does that count?  Or is that too general?

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 03:12:25 PM »
There could be that, yes.

Or this: http://www.spawn.com/toys/product.aspx?product=2631

Or this: http://ea.snafu-comics.com/?strip_id=27

Or a combination thereof. *shrugs* Just throwing stuff out there. Doesn't have to be that grim, though.

Offline MechanicalImpulses

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2007, 03:23:40 PM »
I've gotta say that you've Have me hooked already,  and I have dibs on The Mad Hatter.  I can imagine it now,  that zany cute madness was just a front for a brooding megalomaniac.  If that wasn't enough I'd say throw in a few psychic powers like mind control, and induce insanity and he'd be perfect.

Offline WarDragon

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2007, 03:32:37 PM »
Shouldn't you concentrate on the game you've already got running, Glab? ::)

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2007, 03:38:23 PM »
*chuckles* Already updated it, and, like I've said before, the mad rush from the end of last year is clearing up.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2007, 03:46:17 PM »
I've gotta say that you've Have me hooked already,  and I have dibs on The Mad Hatter.  I can imagine it now,  that zany cute madness was just a front for a brooding megalomaniac.  If that wasn't enough I'd say throw in a few psychic powers like mind control, and induce insanity and he'd be perfect.

 ;D Excellent. Glad to have you on board!

Offline Ajoxer

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 08:33:22 PM »
Can you think of a better protagonist/antagonist than the Pumpkin King? A brilliant crafter of nightmares who has brief, passing, corrupting fantasies in other holidays, latching onto them in attempts to fill some aching hunger for something new.

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Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 02:03:21 PM »
Ooohhh, now that idea for Red Riding Hood is hot... except for the guts part of course, lol.  I got dibs on her.  So she looks hot and innocent, but she's really a badass killer with a penchant for doing her victims in a rather grisly manner (probably more implied in my case, rather than fully described).  And of course, she should have red hair...

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 02:10:50 PM »
But of course... *chuckles* Though I fully expect the Big Bad Wolf will still want a piece of her...

Offline Goblinmoon

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2007, 07:20:22 PM »
oooh I like this idea!  Although most of the typical fairy tale heroines would just lend themselved to slut...

This reminds me of the Red as Blood Fairytale series where people twist fairy tales...

I could see playing the 'Evil Queen from Snow White, but of course she's not really evil even if she is a witch.

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2007, 07:59:30 PM »
Well, you could pull a "Wicked", and turn her into a strong leading character with magical powers (Hopefully a tad darker than the typical magical girl, though, we're hoping.  ;)).

Offline Goblinmoon

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2007, 01:04:44 AM »
of course she won't be sweetness and light!  But definitely strong, after all she takes some pretty direct action to try and put her step daughter into place.

Offline delle

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2007, 04:53:04 AM »
No, Red Rding Hood would be a man! A serial rapist! He'd have red hair and love to do it doggy style. Red... ridin'... hoodlum!  ;D

I'm considering a bald Rapunzel...

Offline GoldenChild

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2007, 05:00:12 AM »
I would love to play the Big Bad Wolf... ;)

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2007, 11:17:28 PM »
*chuckles*

A bald Rapunzel...? Interesting.

BBW's all yours, GC.

So, everyone, I was thinking for the most part, the Fairytale realms would be ruled by the Faerie, a tyrannical aristocracy, and that their Court rests at the middle of the lands, with the four quarters (North, South, East, West), ruled by Fae-blooded half-breeds, deliniated by Spades, Hearts, Diamonds, and Clubs.

The protagonists will be working against the tyranny, and the antagonists will be working within the tyranny.

A rough outline, open to plenty of change based on player input.

Offline MechanicalImpulses

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2007, 02:24:56 AM »
   Sounds extremely interesting to me.

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Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2007, 10:42:32 AM »
Well, RRH wouldn't be the typical "slut" though.  She might act all innocent and slutty, but she's really just trying to get her victims of guard.  Of course, it might backfire on her every now and then.  I mean, the Big Bad Wolf's got to have someone to play with, right?   ;)

Offline Cherri Tart

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2007, 01:18:23 PM »
Hello everyone.  wow.  This sounds amazing.  I just recently joined and was peeking about through the ads and this just sort of jumped out and screamed at me (I almost fell backyards in my chair, sending my poor kittens scrambling out of the room).  Some suggestions... this fairly cries out for Hansel and Gretel (being eaten by the witch, of course) and let's not forget Cinderella - you could cast her in a D/S relationship with her stepmother and sisters.   

That being said, I was wondering if you'd care to take a new girl on as Alice in wonderland?  I could update the school girl look a bit, for starters.  I'm picuring her going from peril to peril, slightly clueless with very little control over what happens to her (just like in the book).

Offline GoldenChild

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2007, 01:20:42 PM »
Well, RRH wouldn't be the typical "slut" though.  She might act all innocent and slutty, but she's really just trying to get her victims of guard.  Of course, it might backfire on her every now and then.  I mean, the Big Bad Wolf's got to have someone to play with, right?   ;)

No I agree, RRH wouldn't be a slut... not in the beginning. But then I would imagin BBW would have something to do to change that wouldn't it? :)

Offline indarkestknightTopic starter

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2007, 01:26:24 PM »
Hello everyone.  wow.  This sounds amazing.  I just recently joined and was peeking about through the ads and this just sort of jumped out and screamed at me (I almost fell backyards in my chair, sending my poor kittens scrambling out of the room).  Some suggestions... this fairly cries out for Hansel and Gretel (being eaten by the witch, of course) and let's not forget Cinderella - you could cast her in a D/S relationship with her stepmother and sisters.   

That being said, I was wondering if you'd care to take a new girl on as Alice in wonderland?  I could update the school girl look a bit, for starters.  I'm picuring her going from peril to peril, slightly clueless with very little control over what happens to her (just like in the book).

*laughs* I'll see what I can do to incorporate them, and it would be a pleasure to have an Alice along with us, though, looking at the rest of those assembled, she might be needing her trusty Vorpal Blade...  ;) Though, if she does play the more innocent, clueless part, it'd be interesting to see if a big sister-little sister relationship develops between her and RRH.

Offline Cherri Tart

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2007, 01:33:27 PM »
I'm sort of familiar with the American McGee version too... if you'd prefer I could make her a lot darker... (thinks about it)  hmm... in fact, she might be a lot more interesting that way... (pictures Alice in goth/bondage gear, a wicked looking knife, and slightly mad)  <--more what you were thinking of?

Offline Caustic

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2007, 04:02:14 PM »
I would love to play the Big Bad Wolf... ;)

FUCK.  Too slow.

I KNEW I should have skipped work yesterday...

Offline Cherri Tart

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2007, 04:05:18 PM »
FUCK.  Too slow.

I KNEW I should have skipped work yesterday...

You could probably do something interesting with the Cheshire cat, tho - just a thought :)  turn it into a demon tiger.

Offline Caustic

Re: Happily Ever After...? I think not.
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2007, 04:12:25 PM »
You could probably do something interesting with the Cheshire cat, tho - just a thought :)  turn it into a demon tiger.

Er... maybe. 

If we're sticking to Lewis Carroll, I could dig the Cheshire cat.  But wouldn't got with demonic tiger, probably... would stick with enigmatic, sarcastic, and maliciously prankish. 

However, I've always liked the Beast (i.e. Beauty and the Beast?)  But please don't think 'Disney' here.  Disney makes me want to choke people. 

So, for an open fairy-tale theme, I'd like to toss my hat in the ring for The Beast.

I can see it going one of two ways... either
a) A more subtle, cerebral type of character where being a "beast" doesn't mean being a giant raging monster with a heart of gold... it means being a highly-conflicted, perhaps slightly marred, human of incredible power, isolated and terrible in his castle... or board room, governor's office, high-rise, etc. ... until someone forces him to remember that he's human and, as such, really quite lonely.

OR b) the more craven alternative.  (mwah, hah hah).  A demi-human beast with extremely poor control over his emotions.  Like me, but cooler.
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