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Offline Phobetor

Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #100 on: June 12, 2010, 11:38:45 AM »
Rio Ferdinand isn't playing for England, it seems.

Didn't Capello somehow manage to get Carragher out of retirement? I haven't seen the final 23 man squad since I'm far too lazy to actually look it up. Beckham hurt his Achilles. :(
England
1   David JAMES   01/08/1970   GK   Portsmouth (ENG)   196
2   Glen JOHNSON   23/08/1984   DF   Liverpool (ENG)   178
3   Ashley COLE   20/12/1980   DF   Chelsea (ENG)   173
4   Steven GERRARD   30/05/1980   MF   Liverpool (ENG)   185
5   Michael DAWSON   18/11/1983   DF   Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)   188
6   John TERRY   07/12/1980   DF   Chelsea (ENG)   188
7   Aaron LENNON   16/04/1987   MF   Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)   165
8   Frank LAMPARD   20/06/1978   MF   Chelsea (ENG)   183
9   Peter CROUCH   30/01/1981   FW   Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)   201
10   Wayne ROONEY   24/10/1985   FW   Manchester Utd. (ENG)   178
11   Joe COLE   08/11/1981   MF   Chelsea (ENG)   175
12   Robert GREEN   18/01/1980   GK   West Ham Utd. (ENG)   187
13   Stephen WARNOCK   12/12/1981   DF   Aston Villa (ENG)   175
14   Gareth BARRY   23/02/1981   MF   Manchester City (ENG)   180
15   Matt UPSON   18/04/1979   DF   West Ham Utd. (ENG)   185
16   James MILNER   04/01/1986   MF   Aston Villa (ENG)   170
17   Shaun WRIGHT-PHILLIPS   25/10/1981   MF   Manchester City (ENG)   168
18   Jamie CARRAGHER   28/01/1978   DF   Liverpool (ENG)   185
19   Jermain DEFOE   07/10/1982   FW   Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)   170
20   Ledley KING   12/10/1980   DF   Tottenham Hotspur (ENG)   188
21   Emile HESKEY   11/01/1978   FW   Aston Villa (ENG)   188
22   Michael CARRICK   28/07/1981   MF   Manchester Utd. (ENG)   183
23   Joe HART   19/04/1987   GK   Birmingham City (ENG)   191

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1   Tim HOWARD   06/03/1979   GK   Everton (ENG)   187
2   Jonathan SPECTOR   01/03/1986   DF   West Ham Utd. (ENG)   183
3   Carlos BOCANEGRA   25/05/1979   DF   Rennes (FRA)   184
4   Michael BRADLEY   31/07/1987   MF   Borussia Moenchengladbach (GER)   185
5   Oguchi ONYEWU   13/05/1982   DF   AC Milan (ITA)   192
6   Steve CHERUNDOLO   19/02/1979   DF   Hannover 96 (GER)   168
7   DaMarcus BEASLEY   24/05/1982   MF   Rangers (SCO)   170
8   Clint DEMPSEY   09/03/1983   MF   Fulham (ENG)   185
9   Herculez GOMEZ   06/04/1982   FW   Puebla (MEX)   178
10   Landon DONOVAN   04/03/1982   MF   Los Angeles Galaxy (USA)   173
11   Stuart HOLDEN   01/08/1985   MF   Bolton Wanderers (ENG)   178
12   Jonathan BORNSTEIN   07/11/1984   DF   Chivas USA (USA)   175
13   Ricardo CLARK   10/02/1983   MF   Eintracht Frankfurt (GER)   178
14   Edson BUDDLE   21/05/1981   FW   Los Angeles Galaxy (USA)   185
15   Jay DeMERIT   04/12/1979   DF   Watford (ENG)   180
16   Francisco TORRES   29/10/1987   MF   Pachuca (MEX)   168
17   Jozy ALTIDORE   06/11/1989   FW   Hull City (ENG)   185
18   Brad GUZAN   09/09/1984   GK   Aston Villa (ENG)   193
19   Maurice EDU   18/04/1986   MF   Rangers (SCO)   183
20   Robbie FINDLEY   04/08/1985   FW   Real Salt Lake (USA)   175
21   Clarence GOODSON   17/05/1982   DF   IK Start (NOR)   193
22   Benny FEILHABER   19/01/1985   MF   AGF Aarhus (DEN)   175
23   Marcus HAHNEMANN   15/06/1972   GK   Wolverhampton (ENG)   192

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #101 on: June 12, 2010, 11:39:51 AM »

Yeah, Becks is not playing. But we have Terry, too. :P

Becks? Good player? In 1998, yes. But we have 2010...

Terry. John Terry. The best teammate you can have. I'm so certain Wayne Bridge would agree.

Anyways - I'm rather thinking that Ferdinand was meant when it came to "losing a good player". He's really a loss, no doubt.

And what speaks against Germany love? We have no Messi, we have no Rooney, we have no player who can hold up the ball 10 times in a row, but in the end, we're there. Somehow. Again. Doesn't this give a good feeling about life? Work hard together, and you don't need half the talent of others to win anything.

Anyways, Argentinia wasn't thaaaat strong today. I'm not too afraid of them. Sure, Messi, Higuain, Milito, that rocks - but the defense...?

Offline Rachubka

Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2010, 11:42:56 AM »
Yaaaaaay! Carragher IS out of international retirement! Funny thing, though... he's still not given the nod over Ledley King - John Terry. He retired because of getting virtually no caps because of Ferdinand and Terry, bwaha.

Aaaand thanks for the squads! You've done what I could not. :D

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #103 on: June 12, 2010, 11:50:10 AM »
Ugh so it was you? ;) lol *gives Nicholas the stink eye*
~blows a kiss~ Yes, it was me!  >:)

Anyways, Argentinia wasn't thaaaat strong today. I'm not too afraid of them. Sure, Messi, Higuain, Milito, that rocks - but the defense...?
I really wasn't too impressed with Argentina today. I expected a lot more from Milito and Messi.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #104 on: June 12, 2010, 12:06:26 PM »
Messi was good though. 96 ball contacts. Had some bad luck. He' playing a different role for Argentinia than for Barca, which I really don't get at all. Put Messi on the wing, not straight behind the forwards. But that's Maradona...


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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #105 on: June 12, 2010, 12:07:37 PM »
~nodnodnod~
It is beyond me why they put him there.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #106 on: June 12, 2010, 12:08:58 PM »
All USA need to do is stick Maurice Edu in front of the back four.  He'll sort Rooney out ;)

Fantastic wee player.  He'll put in a shift for you, and the lad's a great tackler.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #107 on: June 12, 2010, 12:10:19 PM »
that is why Maradona should not be a Coach

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #108 on: June 12, 2010, 12:16:49 PM »
I don't know if he's really a bad coach. It's just a decision I don't really get. He probably has his reasons.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #109 on: June 12, 2010, 12:21:38 PM »
If anyone makes really stupid decisions, it's Raymond Domenech.  The MOTD commentators were hilarious.  They couldn't believe that it took Domenech three substitutes to finally realise that Govou needed to come off.

And that Benzema isn't in the team.  Crazy.  Henry is past it.  That's why he's heading off to MLS ;)

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #110 on: June 12, 2010, 12:22:55 PM »
I don't know if he's really a bad coach. It's just a decision I don't really get. He probably has his reasons.

There's a lot of rumours that Maradona is just a doll in front, while a whole lot of other people really control tactics and players.

In any case, he either wants Messi to be like him and puts him on his old position, or he wants to make sure that everyone knows Messi never will be a real 10. In any case, it's strange. Why no 4-3-3? With Higuain, Messi, Milito as forwards...:drools:

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #111 on: June 12, 2010, 12:24:33 PM »
If anyone makes really stupid decisions, it's Raymond Domenech.  The MOTD commentators were hilarious.  They couldn't believe that it took Domenech three substitutes to finally realise that Govou needed to come off.

And that Benzema isn't in the team.  Crazy.  Henry is past it.  That's why he's heading off to MLS ;)

Benzema didn't have a strong season though for Madrid either. And Henry is a national symbol, plus, you know...hand, and stuff.

But it's a miracle to me as well how you can be so bad with such players. Ribery on his own is close to a guy like Messi, Robben or Sneijder, and then you've got Anelka, Sagna, Evra, Gourcuff...weird.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #112 on: June 12, 2010, 12:28:18 PM »
I agree that Benzema didn't shine (there's plenty of rumours that he's going to the Premiership), but he had his tactics all wrong.  Ribery is a gem of a player, yet he had him playing too deep and too central.  Uruguay had no width.  Why not use that to their advantage?  And Malouda had his greatest season with Chelsea, yet he falls out with him in training and refuses to play him on the other wing from Ribery?

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #113 on: June 12, 2010, 12:41:24 PM »
But Anelka and Ribery obviously demanded that Malouda wouldn't play, because he's not working much for defense. That's at least what I read in the news here.

Ribery had a very difficult season for Bayern Munich though. He's not the player he was in 2008 or 2009 anymore. But you're right, put him on the wing.

But that's the thing at this world cup. Nearly every team plays with 4 defense, 2 defense midfielders, 3 rather offense midfielders and just one forward. There's no real 4-3-3 anymore, or at least 4-4-2.

4 games so far. 2 goals in first match, no goal in second, 2 goals in third match, 1 in fourth...*shrugs* Defense has a lot of focus really.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #114 on: June 12, 2010, 12:46:34 PM »
The thing is, many teams will be playing cautiously.  Not many have had a chance to play in a climate and culture like South Africa.  Give it to the second game of the groups, and you'll see more attacking football.

The Anelka and Ribery thing, I didn't hear about.  I haven't had a chance to read anything about the reason he was dropped, other than he became pretty verbal with Domenech.  And I would have rather played Malouda instead of Ribery.  He's got a lot of personal problems at the moment, as we all know.  But having Gignac on the wing instead of Ribery was daft.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #115 on: June 12, 2010, 12:47:01 PM »

Nuff said

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #116 on: June 12, 2010, 12:48:05 PM »
I'd be perfectly happy with an England-United States draw, myself.  A U.S. victory would be awesome, but frankly, it probably ain't gonna happen.

South Korea as a possible Cinderella story?  Who could've predicted that?  2-0 win over Greece, quite impressive.

On another note... seeing Rooney, living in a trailer and sporting a hobo beard in that Nike soccer commercial made me laugh SO hard. XD


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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #117 on: June 12, 2010, 12:54:14 PM »
@ Kaiser Maverick: LOL! Awesome! Such Win.

I am printing that off and giving it to my Bro-in-law. Thankfully, though, my entire family is Soccer fanatics so...the TV has not been on unless it's on ESPN or ABC.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #118 on: June 12, 2010, 01:03:22 PM »
USA and England are not allowed to draw. If they do, I lose a point in my pool! D:

2 - 0, Rooney, Joe Cole. I'm being boooold.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #119 on: June 12, 2010, 01:05:47 PM »
@ Kaiser Maverick: LOL! Awesome! Such Win.

I am printing that off and giving it to my Bro-in-law. Thankfully, though, my entire family is Soccer fanatics so...the TV has not been on unless it's on ESPN or ABC.

Lol thnx.I gave it to my sis and mom and they got pissed

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #120 on: June 12, 2010, 01:09:17 PM »
The Greeks cant play anymore

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #121 on: June 12, 2010, 01:16:48 PM »
Nope but argentina did some damage

Offline Ridcully

Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #122 on: June 12, 2010, 01:37:44 PM »
^^ Gerrard.

Does the US know that you play this game with something called a defense?

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #123 on: June 12, 2010, 01:46:29 PM »
Gerrard is plenty lively this first half. I think he just replaced Joe Hart as my England crush.

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Re: FIFA World Cup
« Reply #124 on: June 12, 2010, 01:51:41 PM »
After an early flub, the U.S. defense seems to be tightening up and settling in for the long haul.  This is encouraging...

Edit:  ESPN commentator:  "Possession of the ball is very important."  No... really?!  *facepalm*
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