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Offline pimpdan

Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2010, 06:47:47 AM »
A lot of people don't automatically think of scientists as creative but, like Oniya said, the inventors and creators are very creative types. EX. How far outside the "box" did Edison have to think to come up with a lightbulb and imagine that it could be made commonplace???

hmm good point I suppose if you look at' creative' you have to create something so I suppose engineers and inventors would definitly fall into that category from that point of view. Though Edison's method of invention wasn't often a flash of inspiration but an idea ruthlessly followed through trial and error which perhaps isn't the best example.

Offline Caela

Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2010, 07:21:11 PM »
hmm good point I suppose if you look at' creative' you have to create something so I suppose engineers and inventors would definitly fall into that category from that point of view. Though Edison's method of invention wasn't often a flash of inspiration but an idea ruthlessly followed through trial and error which perhaps isn't the best example.

Actually I think it's a really good example. Every trial, whether it worked or not, was another idea. Another thing he created, it just wasn't the goal he was working toward. I think his method shows how an idea can grip a creative mind until they have to see it realized. He tried to make a lightbulb something like 200+ times before he did it...most people would not have held on to an idea that long but he could "see" it would work...he just had to figure out how.

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Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2010, 05:51:58 PM »
Actually I think it's a really good example. Every trial, whether it worked or not, was another idea. Another thing he created, it just wasn't the goal he was working toward. I think his method shows how an idea can grip a creative mind until they have to see it realized. He tried to make a lightbulb something like 200+ times before he did it...most people would not have held on to an idea that long but he could "see" it would work...he just had to figure out how.
hmm but all he was doing was trying to find out which metal worked best in the case of the light bulb. Working through every metal isn't creative, its the kind of thinking a computer would follow.

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Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2010, 06:14:40 PM »
Didn't he try a carbonized cotton thread at one point?

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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2010, 08:20:29 PM »
hmm but all he was doing was trying to find out which metal worked best in the case of the light bulb. Working through every metal isn't creative, its the kind of thinking a computer would follow.

The actual process, the mind numbing work part, might not be "creative" but coming up with the idea, figuring out how it might work...that most certainly is. One could argue that the actual act of setting a brush to pain and streaking it around on a canvas isn't in itself creative, it's the visualization of what the artist wants on the canvas that is creative.

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Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2010, 10:30:12 PM »
... read that as 'streaking around on a campus'. Got amusing mental pictures. Day is more cheerful now. *thumbs up*

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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2010, 09:37:28 PM »
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Offline adventurer

Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2010, 01:39:01 AM »

jean Houston:

The Alchemy of Creativity

http://www.jeanhouston.org/docs/Creativity.pdf

Offline Asianloave

Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2013, 02:58:07 AM »
I concur.



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Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2013, 10:09:04 PM »


This is one of things I dislike about science.  For example  a lot of people (including myself) have gotten angry at the defunding of NASA but when you look at what they promised the american and what they delivered  , they failed miserably.

The manned flyby of mars in '73 ,  Not putting another person on the moon since Apollo 17 , The Challenger and Columbia Disaster.
 
It's been failure after failure with some interesting but ultimately useless  scientific studies along the way.


What's the point of having the Hubble Telescope look deep into the universe when we can't even step foot on another planet in our own solar system?


/end rant.

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Re: Creative minds 'mimic schizophrenia'
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2013, 08:40:10 AM »
Sure, and I bet you'd be just fine without those satellite signals that power your cell phone, TV and GPS, not to mention any cordless devices you might use.  That smoke detector in your house?  First developed for use in space craft.  Ever had a computer-imaged medical scan?  Thank NASA.  You know those funky grooves in the pavement that they have on some curves?  Developed for NASA runways to make them safer. 

And for those who can't bother to get off the couch, here's another good one:  the first joystick (aka, video game controller) was invented to control the Lunar Rover.

*stomps off, muttering about the 'point' of the space program*