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Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #100 on: June 11, 2010, 08:08:48 AM »
Well when they saw Amy and Rory of the future Rory had'nt been erased from time, not just future and past but all of time and space, you know, wibbly wobbly timey wimey.

My point is that they never showed them up close which seems suspicious.

Offline spiritdancerTopic starter

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #101 on: June 11, 2010, 08:18:47 AM »
Could simply be a money issue. Aging someone ten years for no great benefit to a story, that might seem like a questionable balance on the money/effect scale.

Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #102 on: June 11, 2010, 08:21:08 AM »
I doubt it, there was something else going on there. It just seemed really odd, the whole situation actually did because of how he went about mentioning it.

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Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #103 on: June 11, 2010, 09:02:33 AM »
Anyone else notice the Doctor running around previous episodes?

Big theory: The Doctor is going back into the episodes that already happened to fix everything.

Two big examples: A) The 11th hour when young Amy is waiting for the Doctor and the camera shows her from the kitchen window, a shadowed figure runs by in front of the camera. First thing you think is it is prisoner 0, but the form is clearly human and later in the episode the Doctor explains it takes months to make the link to change shape ergo 0 could not be human. Being the nerdy girl I am, I looked at that scene over and over, and it looks like the Doctor. Check it out.

B) In Flesh and Stone, the angels grab the Doctor's jacket and he escapes by leaving it in their grasp. This jacket is a very brown jacket with elbow patches. Later when the he is telling amy to stay he runs off and presumably returns moments later. Here's what wrong with it. First, Amy asks why the crack is here and he's working on it, despite the fact that at that point, the crack was not an important factor.  Second, he tells Amy to try hard and remember what he told her when she was 7, which at the time really didn't have anything to do with what was going on, but could just be inspirational. However, looking at the events with Rory in Cold Blood, he says she has to remember Rory in the same manner.  Finally, he's wearing a jacket in that scene, AND a different watch. Now, people think this is a production goof, but besides that being a MAJOR over sight in production, here's the kicker: It's the same colored jacket he begins wearing after that point, which is an off olive green as opposed to a dirt brown. My friend and I just went over this and were shocked and excited. We have a feeling he may loose his goldband watch soon, because he still had it in the newest one with Van Gogh, which would pretty much prove this theory right.

Go back and take a look if you can, cause it's pretty amazing, which makes me thing Moffat is some kind of mastermind with time travel =P

Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #104 on: June 11, 2010, 09:11:16 AM »
Anyone else notice the Doctor running around previous episodes?

Big theory: The Doctor is going back into the episodes that already happened to fix everything.

Two big examples: A) The 11th hour when young Amy is waiting for the Doctor and the camera shows her from the kitchen window, a shadowed figure runs by in front of the camera. First thing you think is it is prisoner 0, but the form is clearly human and later in the episode the Doctor explains it takes months to make the link to change shape ergo 0 could not be human. Being the nerdy girl I am, I looked at that scene over and over, and it looks like the Doctor. Check it out.

B) In Flesh and Stone, the angels grab the Doctor's jacket and he escapes by leaving it in their grasp. This jacket is a very brown jacket with elbow patches. Later when the he is telling amy to stay he runs off and presumably returns moments later. Here's what wrong with it. First, Amy asks why the crack is here and he's working on it, despite the fact that at that point, the crack was not an important factor.  Second, he tells Amy to try hard and remember what he told her when she was 7, which at the time really didn't have anything to do with what was going on, but could just be inspirational. However, looking at the events with Rory in Cold Blood, he says she has to remember Rory in the same manner.  Finally, he's wearing a jacket in that scene, AND a different watch. Now, people think this is a production goof, but besides that being a MAJOR over sight in production, here's the kicker: It's the same colored jacket he begins wearing after that point, which is an off olive green as opposed to a dirt brown. My friend and I just went over this and were shocked and excited. We have a feeling he may loose his goldband watch soon, because he still had it in the newest one with Van Gogh, which would pretty much prove this theory right.

Go back and take a look if you can, cause it's pretty amazing, which makes me thing Moffat is some kind of mastermind with time travel =P

This has actually been pointed out before, though its not just that. Events shown in flashbacks have been changing.

Offline spiritdancerTopic starter

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #105 on: June 11, 2010, 09:20:10 AM »
oookay. You two just got me hooked. I'll take a good look next saturday. When ... well... I'll be watching more than just that episode on that saturday. I can never just stop myself. XD

Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #106 on: June 11, 2010, 09:22:53 AM »
I have been watching them all a lot and watching the old ones over. I actually watched all the first four seasons, plus two seasons of torchwood in two weeks.

This always seemed interesting to me:

An extra piece of dialogue on Bad Wolf Bay where the Doctor hands his clone a coral-like piece of the TARDIS, telling him to grow his own. When the clone Doctor protests that it takes thousands of years to grow a TARDIS, DoctorDonna provides him with a faster solution, so that Rose and the cloned Doctor can travel through space "as it should be". This was mentioned in The Doctor's Data section of the Doctor Who Adventures magazine, and in the 398th edition of Doctor Who Magazine, Russell T Davies states that it is perfectly fine to assume that this part of the scene did actually occur. The scene is included on the Series 4 DVD Box Set. (Also if you look closely the clone Doctor is still holding the coral piece in the actual episode.) An interesting note about this scene is that in it The Doctor says 'The Doctor. In the TARDIS. With Rose Tyler. As it should be'. This very closely resembles a line said at the end of Age of Steel by Mickey Smith "Thats the Doctor. In the Tardis. With Rose Tyler". Whether this is intentional or coincidental is unknown.
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Offline electrichigh

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #107 on: June 13, 2010, 06:45:14 AM »
I think it is intentional, if you watch RTDs writing over the four seasons he likes to die things together like that. At the same time I guess its also a nice way of linking it all together even though the scene wasn't in the broadcast cut of the show.

Never the less the idea of the MetaDoctor and Rose travelling around in the parallel world I do like, but at the same time I like how the scene wasn't broadcast. I would have given too much of a loop hole for them to keep coming back and as much as everyone loved rose. Right now I do not want her to show her face again. I mean she was a great character but her story line is done and done and done. Plus she took attention away from the awesome that is DoctorDonna.

Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #108 on: June 13, 2010, 06:47:09 AM »
My prediction for the end of the season was actually right, I saw the next episode preview and was so happy.

Offline electrichigh

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #109 on: June 13, 2010, 06:55:48 AM »
The one great thing about Doctor Who. The little things in the ep could be huge later on. Not to mention just how the stories lines all tie together. Though I'm away on holiday for a week and a half starting Wednesday *cries* I wont be able to see the last two eps until I get back.

Thought it was awesome though how the base code of the universe is the day the last ep airs.

Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #110 on: June 13, 2010, 07:12:43 AM »
The one great thing about Doctor Who. The little things in the ep could be huge later on. Not to mention just how the stories lines all tie together. Though I'm away on holiday for a week and a half starting Wednesday *cries* I wont be able to see the last two eps until I get back.

Thought it was awesome though how the base code of the universe is the day the last ep airs.

It wasn't a base code, you're thinking of the thing from earlier that Jack taught Martha. It was a time and date that the cracks originated, which is the day of Amy's wedding in the show and the day the last episode airs. I kind of took note of it when it happened and was like that's cool. It's been a good year for TV for me.

Offline electrichigh

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #111 on: June 13, 2010, 07:28:14 AM »
It wasn't a base code, you're thinking of the thing from earlier that Jack taught Martha. It was a time and date that the cracks originated, which is the day of Amy's wedding in the show and the day the last episode airs. I kind of took note of it when it happened and was like that's cool. It's been a good year for TV for me.
I'm sure River Song called it the base code of the universe. Mind you I'm usually too busy fangirling over the show I have to watch it a few times to pick up all the subtle details.

Random fact for you, its also the day I'm seeing my favourate band ever in Paris therefore unable to watch the show. I'm going to have to avoid this thread when I get back until I catch up. I'm trying really hard not to spoil myself this time around for the final eps, because oh my god they just look AWESOME.

Offline GeekFury

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #112 on: June 13, 2010, 07:30:10 AM »
Taking ideas who or what is in the Pandorica, my money is on The Master or The Black Guardian.

Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #113 on: June 13, 2010, 07:32:05 AM »
I'm sure River Song called it the base code of the universe. Mind you I'm usually too busy fangirling over the show I have to watch it a few times to pick up all the subtle details.

Random fact for you, its also the day I'm seeing my favourate band ever in Paris therefore unable to watch the show. I'm going to have to avoid this thread when I get back until I catch up. I'm trying really hard not to spoil myself this time around for the final eps, because oh my god they just look AWESOME.

What band?

Taking ideas who or what is in the Pandorica, my money is on The Master or The Black Guardian.

I don't think its the master, but I thought Omega, no idea who that Black Guardian is. I'm just glad its not the Goddamn Cybermen like someone said. I'm so tired of those bumbling fools. I don't know why Star Trek ripped the Borg off of them, they're just as lame.

Offline electrichigh

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #114 on: June 13, 2010, 07:34:05 AM »
Taking ideas who or what is in the Pandorica, my money is on The Master or The Black Guardian.
I kinda dont want it to be The Master he was in it recently, come on some new monsters people! Though if I had to bet anything I'm willing to bet the Pandorica is the key to the Time Lock on the Time War

I'm going to see Green Day Azriel....eh five times in ten days XD

Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #115 on: June 13, 2010, 07:36:26 AM »
Ah I haven't heard Green Day in a long long while, used to listen to them all the time.

Offline GeekFury

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #116 on: June 13, 2010, 07:44:43 AM »

 no idea who that Black Guardian is.

The Black Guardian is one of the Guardians of Time, theres six they appeared in the older series as 'The-Six-Fold-God' and belonged in a regieon of uncharted and semi-mystical space, though Omega is a good one too.

Offline Cythieus

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #117 on: June 13, 2010, 07:48:30 AM »
I've only seen bits of the old show. I saw the old Siruleans and we tried to watch Cybermen but we laughed too much.

Offline spiritdancerTopic starter

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #118 on: June 13, 2010, 05:37:24 PM »
I have to admit, after seeing the teaser after this week's episode, I had to stop my heart from racing. I think this finale will be one hell of a ride!

Offline Caela

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #119 on: June 13, 2010, 08:44:00 PM »
I keep reading this thread and it's one long tease! I love you guys saying the finale is coming soon for you because that means I'm that much closer to being able to get them from netflix and watch them myself!

Offline spiritdancerTopic starter

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #120 on: June 14, 2010, 06:08:56 AM »
Maybe we should open a second thread for all out spoilers and things like that. I am holding back because of people like you, who are still going to enjoy the fun :D

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Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #121 on: June 14, 2010, 06:42:04 AM »
Considering the finale is fast approaching, it's a good idea.

Offline Caela

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #122 on: June 14, 2010, 05:39:14 PM »
Spiritdancer, don't hold back! I (and anyone else like me who hasn't seen ep's yet) know there will be spoilers, if we don't want to see them we are perfectly capable of simply not reading the thread. I like the teasers I get! Just makes me all the more eager to see the episodes when they get their butts over here onto dvd lol.

Offline spiritdancerTopic starter

Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #123 on: June 15, 2010, 03:55:37 AM »
The discussion is on:
Who or what is the most feared being in all the universe?

.... Could it be ... The Doctor?

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Re: Dr Who anyone?
« Reply #124 on: June 15, 2010, 07:51:52 AM »
Probably he did end The Last Great Time War wich was mass genocide for Daleks, Time Lords and infact a billion other higher species, but maybe one of The Panthion of Discord, a Trickster like in Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures.