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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2010, 11:44:06 PM »
>.>

And I forgot to say also: It's easy to make moonshine. It's harder to make moonshine without the methanol content, but that's just being picky.

<.<

I dunno - I was fermenting stuff in college purely by accident.  Later I refined my technique, but the most specialized piece in my setup was still a vapor lock.

At one point, my mother-in-law was given a permit for cannabis to deal with chemo-induced nausea (Hep-C).  I'm not sure how well it worked, because she didn't like the smoking aspect.  I've heard that it's effective for glaucoma, but again, I'm not sure if smoking it is required for it to work.

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2010, 11:44:34 PM »
I still believe that it's a lot easier to grow marijuana as well as easier to teach on how to; plant a seed and from then on the difference only comes in with the sort of care it is given. No need for a still or complicated process (relatively speaking) and you have a better idea of what might come out. That said, I have been pleasantly surprised by some homemade beverages.

...

Just wanted to add that I hardly drink or smoke. :P

Anybody can throw a seed in the dirt, sure.  The thing is, most marijuana growing is not just throwing a seed in the dirt.  It takes a lot of effort to make a plant produce enough for even personal use, maybe as much or more effort than it takes to run a still.  Environment has to be controlled, including temperature, lighting, pests, and fungi, and plants have to be cared for and eventually separated.  It can actually be a very complicated process indeed, and it runs the electric bill up something awful.  That's compared to the ease with which one can make beer or wine, and yet how many people do?  Why should we?  I could go down the street and buy a six pack right now, if I wanted.

Oh, and I don't smoke either.  I do however think the way in which the stuff was made illegal is rather ridiculous, and I wouldn't be against legalization.

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2010, 11:45:51 PM »
Over the years I've softened my opinion on legalization. My older brother has smoked since he was a teenager, and still does to this day. When I saw him last he smoked it couple of times. He uses it to normalize his appetite and just to feel alright, normal. He's got some medical issues to deal with.

That said, from what I've seen many people are using the medicinal argument to hide behind, and in the end do their cause no good, in fact probably damage it. The stuff does nothing for me but make me feel like shit, so I don't do it. Although this is true today, I fear not everyone who uses it would do so responsibility. I can assure you, were Zamdrist high, he should not be driving a car. Will others be responsible? Not likely, but that is true today also.

But also, careful what you wish for. Legalization won't be a free license to smoke up whenever, however and wherever you want. If the government legalizes it, then its going to want to tax it, regulate it, control it. Careful what you wish for.

But me personally, I don't really care either way.

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2010, 07:07:30 AM »
I think it's a bit crazy that people want to use a plants natural defense mechanism to deliberately alter the neurotoxins in their brain. Those who need it for medical purposes should have access to it and be able to use it as much as their disability/illness demands, but those who just want to get high should not be allowed near it.
I disagree Cannibus is a vary sensitive plant it constantly has to have light and you can't grow it year round it's kind of a science though to be totally far I don't know a lot about it so yeah you maybe right

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2010, 07:56:02 AM »
I think it should be legalised, so the quality of the drug can be controlled, but at the same time I am uneasy about the long term effects of using it.

Oh, but of course, like anything it should have its moderation. Chainsmokers get cancer, alcoholics get organ failure, excessive eaters get obese. I suppose the effects of cannabis is no worse than those. 

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #30 on: February 24, 2010, 08:06:08 AM »
My opinion on this is rather simple, Alcohol can be just as damaging on your system perhaps even worse and I much rather have a high person bump into me on the street than a drunk one. It's not such a big deal where I live, not legal, but you are allowed to carry a certain amount with you for personal use anyway. Seriously, I much rather see alcohol under the restrictions it is now than marijuana and I don't even smoke or drink that often. (Haven't smoked anything in about 5 weeks or so, so it isn't that addictive either.)

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2010, 08:15:22 AM »
So there's three reasons not to legalize it. 1) THC levels and thus hallucenogenic properties are at best unpredictable 2) We have not yet fully analyzed the chemicals in marijuana and 3) we dont yet know the life long effects of a marijuana user

1.) "Marijuana is the leaf or flower of the plant Cannabis sativa and is commonly known as pot, grass, or weed. It contains the psychoactive substance THC. Although usually grouped with other hallucinogens, marijuana rarely causes hallucinations. Acute effects from smoking marijuana include an alteration in perception or mood, laughing, increased appetite, conjunctival injection, tachycardia, and mild CNS depression." citation
2.) Are you referring to the chemicals in marijuana, or the different drugs/chems that some dealers may sprinkle in? How many chemicals does naturally grown, undoctored marijuana contain?
3.) Bullshit. My own mother is living proof of 'the life-long effects'. Bad knees (unrelated). Hepatitis C (unrelated). Obesity (genetic, relative to her bad knees, perhaps related to marijuana but I severely doubt that). Besides the anecdote, marijuana has been grown and used by humans since the dawn of agriculture and was legal in the United States as recently as the 1930's. Don't act like it's some new drug, that nobody has ever researched it.

...but those who just want to get high should not be allowed near it.

Don't you think adults should deserve responsibility over their personal choices, not the government? Should we outlaw everything that 'you' don't agree with?

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #32 on: February 24, 2010, 08:24:18 AM »
An insight into me: I'm 20, have only smoked marijuana twice, and have vaporized marijuana once. As I indicated in my last post, I've grown up around the use of marijuana, and I have seen first hand how dangerous (or, perhaps, the lack of danger) involved in long-term use and short-term use. There is no addiction, no need to get a fix. You can argue it would be unsafe to smoke and drive (perhaps, I have anecdotal evidence that it doesn't, but take that for what its' worth) but one of the last things you feel the need to do when you smoke is drive.

You can argue that its' a waste of time, and I might not argue with you there. I once sat on a couch and watched some guy I didn't even know play Grand Theft Auto for five hours, laughing non-stop. I was high as a motherfucker :D Actually, the only time I've ever been high. But I digress.

I was diagnosed with glaucoma a couple of years ago. I don't have the anniversary marked on my calendar. Argon Laser treatment would cost me about $600 bucks, at least, uninsured (and I'm not even sure if there are any specialists in my area). And I need it maybe twice a year, each eye. What's really got me nervous is that I haven't gotten treatment since last spring... Because we just don't have the money, nor do we know about any specialists in the area since we moved to this state.

It would be AMAZINGLY easier and cheaper on my and my family if I could obtain medical marijuana. It's a slap in the face that in the 30's, some racists got marijuana outlawed and fucked up a really good thing. Worse yet is that this country still has some irrational fear/hatred of the simple plant, and that it's associated with pure evil when it could be helping a lot of people and it's not.

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #33 on: February 24, 2010, 08:42:13 AM »
You've clearly never seen the likes of me try to grow a plant! *has a black thumb*

Same, but thankfully I don't have much of a taste for alcohol or marijuana. Going to stick with my weekly dose of chocolate milk.  :-)

Anybody can throw a seed in the dirt, sure.  The thing is, most marijuana growing is not just throwing a seed in the dirt.  It takes a lot of effort to make a plant produce enough for even personal use, maybe as much or more effort than it takes to run a still.  Environment has to be controlled, including temperature, lighting, pests, and fungi, and plants have to be cared for and eventually separated.  It can actually be a very complicated process indeed, and it runs the electric bill up something awful.  That's compared to the ease with which one can make beer or wine, and yet how many people do?  Why should we?  I could go down the street and buy a six pack right now, if I wanted.

As I said, beyond shoving a seed into the dirt any further care simply dictates how well your crop will turn out. Of course, practical gardening should go without saying. In the end, you're listing items and expenses most people I know didn't even bother with and yet they managed quite easily and were pretty proud of their end results. Again as I said, complexity is relative. Personally, I'm not suited for either moonshine or marijuana.  :P

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2010, 09:40:45 AM »
Well, here's my two cents on the issue.
 
I can see no logical reason why it should'nt be a legal intoxicant (For recreational use as well as medicinal). The impact on ones health is no greater than that of alcohol or cigarets, and its mental alterations are much milder and indeed, more desireable.
 
When was the last time you heard of a guy getting high on pot and beating his wife and kids when he otherwise wouldn't? How about getting drunk and doing the same? I can't count the number of times I've seen a guy, who is normally a great person, become a beligerant ass after just two beers. Marijuana's effects on behavior and judgement are far less severe and almost the complete opposite. It makes you happier, and nicer and lowers inhebitions just a tiny bit, just enough for someone who is otherwise anti-social and reclusive to actually go out and enjoy the company of others. But you won't wind up trying to pick a fight with your best friend or wind up sleeping with the bearded woman.
 
That said, there are few things with as much history as marijuana. There was a point in time when the entire human civilization depended upon it for war, travel, and comerce. Clothes, sails, rope, arrows, lumber, medicine...you name it, it can be made with hemp.
 
What really gets me though, is how it came to be illegal. The secretary of the freaking tresurey launched a propaganda campaign full of bold faced lies and missinformation that scared the masses into outlawing it. They actually claimed it turned people into insane, violent, sex addicted psychopaths....which is now known to be complete crap.
 
 

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2010, 10:44:54 AM »
What really gets me though, is how it came to be illegal. The secretary of the freaking tresurey launched a propaganda campaign full of bold faced lies and missinformation that scared the masses into outlawing it. They actually claimed it turned people into insane, violent, sex addicted psychopaths....which is now known to be complete crap.

Lemme show you some quotes from the website I cited last page. Pretty crazy.

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When Montana outlawed marijuana in 1927, the Butte Montana Standard reported a legislator’s comment: “When some beet field peon takes a few traces of this stuff… he thinks he has just been elected president of Mexico, so he starts out to execute all his political enemies.” In Texas, a senator said on the floor of the Senate: “All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy.”

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Again, racism was part of the charge against marijuana, as newspapers in 1934 editorialized: “Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white people in the eye, step on white men’s shadows and look at a white woman twice.”

Quote from: Harry J Anslinger
    “There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others.”

    “…the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races.”

    “Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death.”

    “Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”

    “Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing”

    “You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother.”

    “Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind.”

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The fatal marihuana cigarette must be recognized as a deadly drug, and American children must be protected against it.

The classic "Think of the children!" argument *eyefuckingroll*

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2010, 10:52:27 AM »
  I would actually like to see it legalized. Controlled and taxed but allowed. It does seem to be a waste of jail space when heroin or cocaine dealers could be there instead. *has an insane hatred for heroin* Now that's that shit that will kill a person on accident.

  Problems are present, just as with alcohol or cigarettes. Unwanted side effects. It's not addictive like cigs but wait til the tobacco companies get their hands on it legally and put nicotine in it. I don't even want to imagine. And there will always be those with addictive natures that will NEED it. Just like alcoholics.

  Over a long-period of time, it hardcore hurts memory, mostly short-term. I've seen this in my father, it's seems borderline-dementia-like (yes, it's caused by weed, not dementia) A more in-depth explanation. But on the other hand, it's extremely unlikely to kill someone or truly harm them.

  And remember about Prohibition, it was stupid and seemingly pointless. But it DID work! At least for a while, even despite the illegal liquor houses and the like.

 
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It’s true that alcohol consumption fell during Prohibition, at least initially. In a 1991 paper, economists Jeffrey Miron and Jeffrey Zwiebel estimated, based on four measures (cirrhosis, alcoholism deaths, arrests for drunkenness, and alcoholic psychoses), that consumption dropped 60 to 80 percent immediately after Prohibition was enacted, then rebounded sharply beginning in 1921. By the end of the decade, consumption was 50 to 70 percent of the pre-Prohibition level according to three measures and slightly higher according to one....
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  Still. It was lower.

   Growing plants is easy for me, growing marijuana, even good marijuana, isn't too difficult with a little plant savviness *admits to NOTHING*

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2010, 12:43:36 PM »
... Over a long-period of time, it hardcore hurts memory, mostly short-term. I've seen this in my father, it's seems borderline-dementia-like (yes, it's caused by weed, not dementia) A more in-depth explanation. But on the other hand, it's extremely unlikely to kill someone or truly harm them....

Actually...you can't die from it. Even if you tried. In that aspect it is actually safer than many of the foods we eat every day. 10 raw potatoes can induce a toxic responce, however there is no lethal limit to the ammount of marijuana your body can intake.
 
Medical drugs are often tested to find what is called "LD-50 rating". Essentially, the LD-50 rating is the dosage at which 50% of test animals given a substance die from a toxic response triggered by the dosage. Scientists have tried, and failed to find the LD-50 of marijuana. In other words...researchers have failed to give test animals enough marijuana to kill them (Despite trying).

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2010, 01:18:46 PM »
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“Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you’re likely to kill your brother."

I find the juxtaposition of these two 'rationales' particularly amusing.

Medical drugs are often tested to find what is called "LD-50 rating". Essentially, the LD-50 rating is the dosage at which 50% of test animals given a substance die from a toxic response triggered by the dosage. Scientists have tried, and failed to find the LD-50 of marijuana. In other words...researchers have failed to give test animals enough marijuana to kill them (Despite trying).

Not only medical drugs, but just about anything that you could possibly get in your mouth.  Household cleaners, hospital disinfectants, paint...  One of the things I do with my work is take the lab results of these studies and put them into language that the regulatory people understand.  Neither one is really English, but that's a whole other matter.  If I could write the reports in English, they would read: 'Do not eat paint.  It won't kill you, but it will make your stomach turn white (or whatever color the paint is).  If you spill paint on you, it won't kill you, but you should wash it off as soon as possible.  Spilling paint on yourself more than once is not any more dangerous than spilling it on yourself once.  Getting paint in your eyes hurts.  Wash it out quickly.  Do not huff paint.'

Generally, they stop testing a substance for oral tox at 5 grams per kilogram of body weight - that's about 8 ounces per hundred pounds.  That's an awful lot of hash brownies.

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #39 on: February 24, 2010, 02:34:20 PM »
wow this really took off I'm glad I posted this thanks for your feed from fellow stoners and non-stoners alike ( don't worry I respect your judgment not to smoke the gaanja) this is what I think about the war on drugs altogether (mide you I'm qouting this and will post a link to the stand up set it's related to

"It's not a war on Drugs, its a war on personal freedoms"-Bill Hicks

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« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2010, 02:37:01 PM »
This video needn't share my opinion about weed, but I found it appropriate/humorous to post it here.





Offline Kane GunlockTopic starter

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2010, 02:37:30 PM »
 
  Problems are present, just as with alcohol or cigarettes. Unwanted side effects. It's not addictive like cigs but wait til the tobacco companies get their hands on it legally and put nicotine in it. I don't even want to imagine. And there will always be those with addictive natures that will NEED it. Just like alcoholics.


that is a scary possibility but again you won't just have those heartless bastards selling it, so ya free market and all

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« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2010, 02:39:56 PM »
This video needn't share my opinion about weed, but I found it appropriate/humorous to post it here.

Ahhaa, I love Katt Williams. "It's not a drug, it's just a plant. It just grows like that. And if you just happen to set it on fire..."

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2010, 03:20:35 PM »


For the record, i'm for legalization. Remembered this movie and had to share.   :D

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2010, 05:52:36 PM »


I think we should all take part in a free study of some sort and summit our findings collectively.

Please ...legalize it !!! =)

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #45 on: February 24, 2010, 06:33:42 PM »
1.) "Marijuana is the leaf or flower of the plant Cannabis sativa and is commonly known as pot, grass, or weed. It contains the psychoactive substance THC. Although usually grouped with other hallucinogens, marijuana rarely causes hallucinations. Acute effects from smoking marijuana include an alteration in perception or mood, laughing, increased appetite, conjunctival injection, tachycardia, and mild CNS depression." citation
2.) Are you referring to the chemicals in marijuana, or the different drugs/chems that some dealers may sprinkle in? How many chemicals does naturally grown, undoctored marijuana contain?
3.) Bullshit. My own mother is living proof of 'the life-long effects'. Bad knees (unrelated). Hepatitis C (unrelated). Obesity (genetic, relative to her bad knees, perhaps related to marijuana but I severely doubt that). Besides the anecdote, marijuana has been grown and used by humans since the dawn of agriculture and was legal in the United States as recently as the 1930's. Don't act like it's some new drug, that nobody has ever researched it.



1) Rarely being the key word here. As long as the possibility of Marijuana use can cause hallucinations then I think its a mistake to allow its use outside of controlled medicinal use.
2) I'm referring to a normal unlit blunt and then a lit blunt.
3) So your grandmothers experience with marijuana is enough to say everyones alright doing it? Sorry but no. People have different tolerance levels to the drug and bodies react differently to exposure. For an unbiased scientific study you have to study a group of people to get accurate results. To my knowledge there have been no life long studies done by the scientific community (although I can cite several 20 year studies). Unless you show me one my point remains valid.

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Don't you think adults should deserve responsibility over their personal choices, not the government? Should we outlaw everything that 'you' don't agree with?

I understand where you're coming from here but I disagree to a point. The reason why laws are in place is because someone was doing something they shouldn't have done. If laws were abolished and adults held only to personal responsibility then it would cause a break down in society and create utter chaos as well as give some adults so much freedom that they could justify anything. Now chaos isn't necessarily a bad thing. Chaos is freedom and a free spirit, the ability to adapt to surroundings, and the ability to disagree with tradition. At the same time, to much law forces needless conformity, crushes peoples spirits, and destroys hope.

What I'm saying here is to much of anything can be bad for you and for our society. In the case of Marijuana I think that we don't know enough about it to say it should be legal so better safe then sorry by keeping it illegal till its been studied to full effect.

Edit: I forgot to mention if it is one day legalized then it should be taxed and controlled just like any other recreational product (i.e tabacco and alchohol).
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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2010, 07:00:51 PM »
I realize it's an anecdote, and I state just as much, so take it for what its' worth. Also, that part where you said there were no long-term studies of marijuana on the human body... Well... Yeah. "Overall, by comparison with other drugs used mainly for ‘recreational’ purposes, cannabis could be rated to be a relatively safe drug." According to Oxford Pharmacology, so take it for what its' worth :P

I understand where you're coming from here but I disagree to a point. The reason why laws are in place is because someone was doing something they shouldn't have done. If laws were abolished and adults held only to personal responsibility then it would cause a break down in society and create utter chaos as well as give some adults so much freedom that they could justify anything. Now chaos isn't necessarily a bad thing. Chaos is freedom and a free spirit, the ability to adapt to surroundings, and the ability to disagree with tradition. At the same time, to much law forces needless conformity, crushes peoples spirits, and destroys hope.

What I'm saying here is to much of anything can be bad for you and for our society. In the case of Marijuana I think that we don't know enough about it to say it should be legal so better safe then sorry by keeping it illegal till its been studied to full effect.

Edit: I forgot to mention if it is one day legalized then it should be taxed and controlled just like any other recreational product (i.e tabacco and alchohol).

You say "The reason why laws are in place is because someone was doing something they shouldn't have done". Who gets to decide what is something 'they shouldn't have done'? Who gets that arbitrary power, and who decides that it's right? Are you implying that marijuana is bad because it's illegal? And that it's illegal because it's bad?

I like how you imply that legalizing marijuana means absolute chaos and anarchy. Yeah. I too am a fan of taking an absolute worst case scenario and even then blowing it way out of proportion.

Then you say "What I'm saying here is to much of anything can be bad for you and for our society". I certainly can't argue with that. Too much water, and you drown or suffer from water poisoning (yes, this actually does happen). Too much oxygen and you'll suffocate. Moderation is key, but do you think everyone who smokes marijuana is automatically using a pound of the stuff per day? You assume that people will not be able to moderate themselves and thus need the government to protect them. Pretty weak, I think.

I agree that if it does become legalized, it will be taxed. Not to say I think it should be; I have no thoughts on that as of right now. But I do believe it would be.

Oh, and one last closing statement... Do you know what the most liberal country in Europe is when it comes to drugs? It's not the Netherlands. It's Portugal.

After decriminalizing all hard drugs in 2001, Portugal's drug use among teens plummeted, the rate of new HIV infections caused by shared needles dropped considerably, and more than twice as many drug users sought treatment for their addictions. Not to mention, the lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 over in Portugal is now at 10%, compared to 39.8% in the United States.

I mean, just sayin'.

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2010, 07:07:05 PM »


I understand where you're coming from here but I disagree to a point. The reason why laws are in place is because someone was doing something they shouldn't have done. If laws were abolished and adults held only to personal responsibility then it would cause a break down in society and create utter chaos as well as give some adults so much freedom that they could justify anything. Now chaos isn't necessarily a bad thing. Chaos is freedom and a free spirit, the ability to adapt to surroundings, and the ability to disagree with tradition. At the same time, to much law forces needless conformity, crushes peoples spirits, and destroys hope.

Edit: I forgot to mention if it is one day legalized then it should be taxed and controlled just like any other recreational product (i.e tabacco and alchohol).


Oh, and one last closing statement... Do you know what the most liberal country in Europe is when it comes to drugs? It's not the Netherlands. It's Portugal.

After decriminalizing all hard drugs in 2001, Portugal's drug use among teens plummeted, the rate of new HIV infections caused by shared needles dropped considerably, and more than twice as many drug users sought treatment for their addictions. Not to mention, the lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 over in Portugal is now at 10%, compared to 39.8% in the United States.

I mean, just sayin'.
Like I said "it's not a war on drugs its a war on personal freedoms "

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2010, 07:07:45 PM »

I think we should all take part in a free study of some sort and summit our findings collectively.

Please ...legalize it !!! =)

Oh and I second that

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2010, 07:10:34 PM »
Oh, and one last closing statement... Do you know what the most liberal country in Europe is when it comes to drugs? It's not the Netherlands. It's Portugal.

After decriminalizing all hard drugs in 2001, Portugal's drug use among teens plummeted, the rate of new HIV infections caused by shared needles dropped considerably, and more than twice as many drug users sought treatment for their addictions. Not to mention, the lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 over in Portugal is now at 10%, compared to 39.8% in the United States.

I mean, just sayin'.

Perhaps those statistics at the end should be coupled with relative stress levels, too - if the American life is more stressful then I can see those percentages staying even, or perhaps rising after legalisation.