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Offline Ravyn

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #175 on: April 04, 2010, 06:36:43 PM »
* Will gives Ravyn a cookie!  Huzzah!

On that same subject...I noticed that the dangers of smoking were mentioned above.  It is entirely possible to consume cannabis in food, and it still retains the same effects.  So I say load me up on snickerdoodle pot cookies! :)

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #176 on: April 04, 2010, 06:40:25 PM »
Have you no respect for tradition?  Hash brownies, dude!  O8) O8)

Offline Lady Ayame

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #177 on: April 04, 2010, 07:15:45 PM »
I'd have to disagree with the fact that people are saying that people are using Marijuana just because it's illegal, and to make it legal would "take the fun out of it"

I don't smoke because it's illegal, in fact I've stopped smoking for periods of time because I don't want to go to jail for enjoying a joint.
I smoke because it's relaxing after a long day of work, and it doesn't make me throw up, or have a hangover or act the fool like I do when I drink. I don't like the person I become when I drink.

A lot of people I know look down on me for smoking Marijuana
but in my opinion it's a lot better than getting alcohol poisoning.

It's pretty much impossible to overdose on marijuana... if you smoke too much you just go to sleep, and it's probably one of the best sleeps you'll ever have.

EDIT: also, all this talk about the dangers of mental addiction to marijuana is completely ridiculous. You can get mentally addicted to TV, hamburgers, riding your bike every day, the internet (hello, those like me on elliquiy alot haha)  ANYTHING.
it's all a matter on self control and knowing when to stop and what is the limit. For example, I enjoy a good drink every once in a while but I know once I start drinking I won't stop and bad things happen. So I choose not to drink if I can help it.

When I don't have marijuana I don't go into cold sweats, get cranky at my friends, or become sick.
I might be a little sad because I don't have anymore weed, but it's not something I'd go insane over.

all in all, it comes down to the specific person. If you have an addictive personality, you should probably stay away from substances in general.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2010, 07:20:54 PM by Lady Ayame »

Offline Kate

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #178 on: April 07, 2010, 10:03:40 AM »
Lady Ayame,

your views of the drug plant I agree with entirely.


Offline Noelle

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #179 on: April 07, 2010, 10:08:23 AM »
There's no reason to strike out calling it a drug. It is what it is, it's just the stigma involved with the word that makes people flip out when they hear it. Caffeine is a drug. Alcohol is a drug. Tobacco is a drug. Catnip is a drug. People (especially politicians) just like to drum up immediate, knee-jerk reactions of fear and disgust.
I still find it weird to consider myself a 'drug user' simply because of the image it conjures up in most people's minds when they hear it -- and that's not an image I particularly want to be associated with or care for -- but as I said, it is what it is. It's all just semantics anyway, I guess.

Online Doomsday

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #180 on: April 07, 2010, 10:22:45 AM »
I seem to recall that when the German exchange students came over when I was in high school, that they didn't really 'get' the whole fascination with alcohol that we American teens had.  We, on the other hand, were amazed that one could buy beer in a McDonalds over there.

"In America sex is an obsession, in other parts of the world it is a fact."

I imagine this also applies to everything else that makes puritans cry.

Offline Will

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #181 on: April 07, 2010, 12:00:09 PM »
I've never understood why calling it a plant is supposed to make it better.  There are lots of dangerous plants in the world.  "It's a plant, so there's nothing wrong with it," right?  I seriously can't follow that logic.

Offline auroraChloe

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #182 on: April 07, 2010, 12:10:18 PM »
I've never understood why calling it a plant is supposed to make it better.  There are lots of dangerous plants in the world.  "It's a plant, so there's nothing wrong with it," right?  I seriously can't follow that logic. 


goes to the point that natural is better than man made, i suppose.  and it doesn't make it 'better' per se, it's just fact. 

not at all like tossing a bunch of man made chemicals in a tub until they form crystals that will rot your brain and your teeth.  ugh. 

Offline Will

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #183 on: April 07, 2010, 12:42:10 PM »
But why is natural supposed to be better than manmade?  And better how?  Is salvia divinorum better for you than tylenol?  Changing the label on a substance doesn't change what it is; it's just a distraction technique.

Weed is a far sight better than crystal meth, sure.  But you can't take that one relationship and expand it to mean "plants > chemicals."

Offline auroraChloe

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #184 on: April 07, 2010, 01:03:55 PM »
Weed is a far sight better than crystal meth, sure.  But you can't take that one relationship and expand it to mean "plants > chemicals."

why can't i ? 

you have your druthers, i have mine. 

i'd love to afford organic everything, but it tends to get expensive.   >:( 

most anything man touches is perversed somehow, in my opinion.  yeah advancement is great but they more often than not bite us in the ass eventually. 
this belongs in another thread entirely, too.  sorry   :-\

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Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #185 on: April 07, 2010, 02:27:54 PM »
'Man-made' stuff tends to filter out the impurities and increase the concentration.  Swallowing two or three apple seeds won't kill you, but swallowing a cyanide capsule the same size as two or three apple seeds will.  The nicotine obtained by smoking a pack of natural tobacco probably won't kill you, but if you boil it down into sludge to extract the nicotine, you can induce a heart attack.

So, man-made is not 'better' in the sense of 'more beneficial', but in the sense of 'more effective at what it does'.  Even if that's being poisonous.

Offline Jude

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #186 on: April 07, 2010, 02:49:39 PM »
why can't i ?

you have your druthers, i have mine. 

i'd love to afford organic everything, but it tends to get expensive.   >:( 
Well, you have the right to do and believe whatever you want and I support that.

most anything man touches is perversed somehow, in my opinion.  yeah advancement is great but they more often than not bite us in the ass eventually. 
this belongs in another thread entirely, too.  sorry   :-\
That's your opinion, yes, but everyone has the right to their own opinion, not their own fact, and that's not factually correct.  There is no scientific consensus that supports anything that the organic movement claims.  The studies are conflicting, contentious, and inconclusive at best, and outright show that the organic movement is counterproductive at worse.

This idea that somehow natural > unnatural is completely unfounded, not to mention largely a false premise.  Human beings have been affecting the genetic makeup of plants and animals ever since the Neolithic Revolution thanks to farming and livestock raising practices.  The whole idea of designed by nature is idiotic to begin with, when you realize that everything that's happened was essentially the result of survival of the fittest.  There is no overriding naturalistic spirit or direction; the whole concept of mother nature is entirely fabricated and really without a place in the evolution-aware modern world.

It's just one big application of the naturalistic fallacy.
« Last Edit: April 07, 2010, 02:51:49 PM by Jude »

Offline Kane GunlockTopic starter

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #187 on: April 17, 2010, 09:53:18 PM »
Revalation 22:2 " the river of life proceeded to flow from the throne of God, and on either side of the bank there was the tree of life, and the leaf from that tree is for the healing of the nations"

Offline Kane GunlockTopic starter

Re: Legalize it NOW!
« Reply #188 on: April 17, 2010, 09:54:24 PM »


EDIT: also, all this talk about the dangers of mental addiction to marijuana is completely ridiculous. You can get mentally addicted to TV, hamburgers, riding your bike every day, the internet (hello, those like me on elliquiy alot haha)  ANYTHING.
it's all a matter on self control and knowing when to stop and what is the limit. For example, I enjoy a good drink every once in a while but I know once I start drinking I won't stop and bad things happen. So I choose not to drink if I can help it.

When I don't have marijuana I don't go into cold sweats, get cranky at my friends, or become sick.
I might be a little sad because I don't have anymore weed, but it's not something I'd go insane over.

all in all, it comes down to the specific person. If you have an addictive personality, you should probably stay away from substances in general.

thats why I just get a gram of shwagg
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