Personally I am against the public option, as Democratic leadership has already said several times that the "public option" will put private insurers out of business, and thus lead to a single-payer system. I agree that fair and open competition in the market place is a good idea. However, having the government able to set the rules, and absorb as much money as they need in the form of debt to 'out-compete' the competition, driving them into the ground is hardly fair and open competition.
One of the roles of government is to ensure that private businesses can't simply cheat their customers (or at least make it difficult for them to do so), or each-other. But when the government is one of those businesses... you no longer have a referee in the 'game' you have a player who gets to tell the other players they loose.
This nation spends more money denying care, than it would to provide care to every person without care in the nation.
This nation spends more money due to the lack of preventative care, than it would to provide care to every person without care.
This nation loses more money due to the lack of care, than it would cost to provide every person in the nation without care.
Health care, like education, is an investment. The average healthy, educated laborer produces an order of magnitude more than they need. There is no logical reason to avoid single payer. We set up single payer in Germany, on our bill. We set up single payer in Japan, on our bill. We set up single payer in Iraq, on our bill, because it is not a debate that single payer is cheaper.
It is a fact.
Anything less is either an outright lie or willful ignorance.
The emergency care we force the uninsured into only makes it even more retarded. There is a member here who you are spending half a million dollars for her chemo treatment
It should have been five thousand. She should have not had to suffer for two years, she could have been productive for two years - paid it back in taxes eighteen months ago.
Yet she suffers in agony because people like you insist on her living in constant pain, and gladly pay for it. It's not just sadistic, it's seven years of general labor denied to the economy.
By all means, get rid of welfare in all forms, but at least have the sense to recognize a quality investment when you see one.