Religion is just a school of thought on spirituality, making sense of the intangible, faith in one of them is simply that
strong faith is conviction. It could be said that many beleiving science holds the answers could be "religious about science, or mathematics etc, science and math are models to represent our experience, religions are another and many overlap, when they don't agree some have "issues".
Cultural laws is another. Some may believe in them so strongly they beleive those that do this or that should be subjected to the full power of the law.
Associating identity in the stances represented by any of them are choices, subjective choices.
"Extremist are there because they work.
They get their message across, and people pay attention to it.
If you kill them, they have turned into a martyr for their cause that is willing to do anything, including die for what they stand for.
If you kill them all for being extremists you are yourself in turn becoming an extremist believing that all extremists need to be killed, much like all abortionists need to be killed etc... (And please note this is not genocide, unless you consider all extremists to be in the same racial or cultural group which is certainly not the case.)
So are you going to kill yourself, or force someone else to thereby creating an infinite loop of extremist murdering extremists?" - M
- I disagree, germany became "extreme" because germany itself was being subsagated to extreme conditions the rest of the world imposed on that country after WWI, trying to be happy living under them was impossible, they sort and found extreme options because no soft easy ones to maintain happiness existed.
Hitler was a masterful speaker - he emotively united the thoughts of many, he appealed to repression of his countrymen, they felt hope in freedom from conditions, a unity was born.
After WWII the allies realized their mistake and realized the easist way for germany / japan to stop be a threat in the future is to try and get along with them (pity they didnt realise it was true for all peoples and countries then and there ... but they are only just realising this now... hopefully not too late).
AFTER WWII anti-racism, anti-discrimination rules became the norm in many countries, these actions did solve some "extremism" from being able to appear and grow with such strength.
Before WWI and WWII, racism, bigotry was the norm. (Even after WWII it was still culturally acceptable in normal society (some of the first walt Disney cartoons are incredibly racist)
"As for emotional development that does not have much of anything to do with it. If you are unhappy you have many choices. ... So, how do emotions control what decision you should make? That is more determined by reason, and moral views than by emotion. " - M
I don't think reason determines actions as much as you think. If logic did, we would all be SUPER FIT, STUDY alot when we were in school, eat perfect balanced meals, keep perfect dairies, always pay the cheapest and environmentally friendly items for anything ... etc.
Nice looking car ? Logically is it worth the money ? if it solves or elevates and EMOTIONAL state it is logically justified from the landscape of returns money gives what your trying to optimise (short term medium term or long term happiness )
People don't commit adultury or get pregant when they are teens for logical reasons, nor for reasons that go WITH their current understanding of reason or values, neither do they do it because they are stupid or uneducated.
If your feeling energetic you may go for a run, if your feeling lazy you don't, if your feeling angry you don't go around appreciating butterflies, when your feeling happy you don't pick fights in aggressive manners for un-justified reasons. If a wife is feeling bitter or angry or betrayed or something - her inclinations to have sex with who she believes is the cause is less, it is not because she reasons things though and chooses to obstain to prove a point ( although she may - usually however the cause of her actions if she chooses this option due to emotions (Her not wanting to ) not calculated scheming (returns of power games) )
People don't try and climb dangerous mountains because its logical, you may say "well it is logical if you want excitement or feel like being famous or restlessness or want to impress a woman or want to explore or do something new "
... then your RIGHT ! It is logical - from an EMOTIVE landscape.
human behavior is semi-optimized actions chosen to MOVE within an emotion or advance an emotional state one is currently experiencing.