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Author Topic: Interest Check Ancient Rome, Ancient Greece. (Perhaps mythological perhaps not)  (Read 2182 times)

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Offline KateTopic starter

Ancient Rome, Ancient Greece.

(Perhaps mythological perhaps not)

Thoughts ?

Offline ChrisRobin

Ancient Rome, Ancient Greece.

(Perhaps mythological perhaps not)

Thoughts ?
Hello Kate
I am interested in mythology, and classical mythology is ripe with plots both sexual and adventurous.:Dionysus or Bacchus with their orgies, the Mars and Aphrodite entanglement. I love the slavery and aristocracy mixture in ancient Rome and all those demented emperors. Their is so much material in ancient Greece as well. Where do your interests lie? Love both settings.....

Offline Xanatos

Rome has always been fascinating to me. Rome is especially ripe with sexual opportunities as well as non-sexual. I do not claim to be an expert on Rome but nor am I wet behind the ears concerning it. I, however, am lacking in my knowledge of Greece. I know much much more about Rome. Especially is military.

Is this looking to be a straight time line with no tweaking besides just adding in our own, or will other twists be thrown in, like vampires, or magic? I am not against a straight setting, I like Rome well enough.

Offline KateTopic starter

The reason why I think it may be good - is that the players can all be nobility or wealthy influential citizens of different districts.

so ... one temple/district may be "vanilla" sex
so ... one temple/district may be BDSM sex, another exotic etc.

And all effectively are "storytellers" ... ie you can say what is happening in your manor etc, sometimes
we meet or invite others into our manner... but no one really controls the thread - everyone contributes at effectively equal tier.



Offline Xanatos

Hmm, that is an interesting concept. Perhaps there should be something which 'glues' them all together, however? Some people might not be up for running their own manor/thread. I like the idea, myself, but it could theoretically prove to be a problem/deterrent to some.

I like the idea of nobility or someone with at least enough money to basically be a noble, as this allows freedom to do things, where a simple Plebe would be screwed more or less, unless the player was highly creative.

Offline ChrisRobin

I would certainly like to participate in this inventive expose of ancient Rome. I would enjoy playing the sadistic and aloof nobleman who presides over a villa dedicated to the arts of pain and pleasure....

Offline Xanatos

Not sure what I would do... but it will be nice... scintillating... perhaps abusive? -laughs- I like so much, I could go bad or good, really kinky or more normal.

Offline KateTopic starter

A lot of sexual hedonism existed during those times.

(the greeks elevated beastiality in their culture ... it may be that the time that there are tension between cultures (ie rome has not taken over greece yet) - but still it would be good if some interaction existed btween the characters.

We could meet during gladiator shows, (some could be a gladiator or free them ... some may try and free slaves and organise ships so they can sail back to africa ...

rumors of mythical creatures pestering some places could reach your ears ...

Offline RubySlippers

Rome might be fun, I love Roman History and all. Greece to after all they had the greatest bisexual/lesbian of all time come from there Sappho. And Sparta was renowned for such activities with the men off to train or make war all the time. So both are good for me.

Offline KateTopic starter

Actually ruby this could be fascinating for you..

We can stage it as mythical rome/greece - where manticores or minitors exist (unless most prefer otherwise ... or more likely there could a thread that does have mythological stuff happen - but main threads don't)

I have very crude turn ons compared to most woman (namely bestiality - it doesn't have to be explored in this theme though as this has a lot of potentional for "refined sexuality" as well.
I don't really want to have threads that turn others off which are in them - the "Gods" of the greeks visited woman in the form or swans etc to fool other gods... and it is something that is practiced in some temples) but ... but different temples practiced different things..

Some greek temples would be plush but mainly tranquil.
Some would make even my eyes bulge.

Skirmishes happened all the time ... (may be at a time christianity may or may not have existed  for example ... ruby's charactyer could save his crusifiction - but "toying" with direct biblical references may offend some... perhaps leave it alone ... it may be safer to set it before the time of christ.

Mind you ... rome is very arrogant - slavery is everywhere - corruption - everywhere etc.

But it would have its own charm - if you happened to be a wealthy citizen ... life is sweet.

Offline Xanatos

Well, I am not totally hot on the mythical aspects of the periods, I would prefer a normal setting. Maybe this is where the multiple threads could come in? I also would prefer a pre-Christianity, as yes that likely might ruffle some feathers even here on E; as I would be one who would object.

Offline KateTopic starter

Then lets make it non-mythical, pre-Christianity
(so none are tempted to rp JC doing stuff)


Offline ChrisRobin

Hello Kate

I could go with or leave mythological beings although a satyr or a centaur for example would prove an interesting addition to a temple of dominance and submission. What a treat to write. There were certainly enough depraved nobility and pliant slaves to create a wealth of  episodes. If we go non-mythological of course I can always have a few of my minions dress as and mimic the half human, half beastly creatures. A cruel and ravishing minotaur could lurk in the labyrinth-like gardens... Sorry, I am starting to write the thing..

I still think we need a motivated reason for gathering and reporting. Perhaps a variation on the Canterbury Tales would prove interesting. The troop is traveling, all for their own purposes, to  Athens or some such location. To pass the time each could amuse the crowd with details of their lives and adventures... Because of the varied personalities some might hate one story and love the next. The reactions could be of as much interest as the tales.

The revelations could go on for quite some time, think of the Arabian Nights. I am not married to the idea but it is one way to throw these misfits together and have them tell their stories.

I would like to hear of other possibilities as well.
I must admit that I am already gleefully creating my dastardly master in my head.
Thank you

PS. I did indeed laugh out loud at your request for a brave soul to tackle the JC issue. Can you imagine the outrage... Almost makes it worth a try. But, not me..
"That way madness lies...."
« Last Edit: October 17, 2009, 08:42:21 AM by ChrisRobin »

Offline KateTopic starter

chrisrobin lovely avatar.

Well if mythological greece/rome interests some we can have a thread or area where they are relevent (like some islands) ... ideally though it would be good to have core threads that don't relate to them.

Offline ChrisRobin

Thanks. It's Dorian Gray.

I'm aboard for whatever venue we eventually settle upon. A little island of mythological wonder could serve as a nice side trip. Those who do not want to visit could blissfully sail by.


 

Offline KateTopic starter

chrisrobin ... if your inspired ... any chance of some CG pics that you think would suit ?

Offline ChrisRobin

Hello Kate
I would certainly be interested in unearthing some art. Just to be certain: We are looking at Greece and Rome in the first century BCE. Are we agreed on that?
Thanks
Chris

Offline RubySlippers

Real history could be fun, so could mythology.

But I was thinking of being a minor oracle, a deity passing on prophecies through her. And I will note at the time they were very respected and provided for. And there were more than the big oracles around.

I was thinking if Greece an oracle of Gaia the ancient primordial goddess of the Earth a very respected one. If in Rome the goddess Cybele. It will give me a chance to do drugs and make obscure messages to perplex the faithful.

If in Greece I vote for Sparta they had an interesting culture and respected women and men, maybe not equally but hell women could at least be mindful of their independence. If Rome well a major house would be nice. My character fits into either Spartans would honor an oracle being very religious and provide for her. If a noble house a family oracle would be nice since Romans always sought the favor of the gods. And being a priestess would be a very respectable thing for a woman of quality and allow her social freedoms.

Offline KateTopic starter

Women belonging to powerful or influential FAMILIES were respected. At the extrreme end of the society all societies are the same - those with power have wealth those with wealth have power - no matter their gender.

Priestesses were also - those afflicted with the gods or goddesses were protected and cherished - so sure ruby - priestess of whatever you feel like sounds good.

As far as when it should be set ... my god there are MANY times that would be interesting... it depends on how chummy we want Greeks and the roman's to be.
have a look at this..

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/ROME/CONQHELL.HTM
« Last Edit: October 18, 2009, 10:48:12 AM by Kate »

Offline Xanatos

How about Rome in its Golden Age, I am not sure if this is Pre-Christian, but would offer a vast majority of Europe, parts of Eurasia, Egypt, and all of the north African coast line to play with. Since the Roman's were likely always a hedonistic people, timeline should not affect any sexual aspects we wish to pursue.

Oh and that link was quite interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Offline ChrisRobin

Thanks for that Kate. I am happy with any era that you chose to go with. They were such interesting times. I am reminded of the Irish curse, "May you live in interesting times..." We will have plenty of material wherever we chose to set our thread...

Offline ChrisRobin

Hello Kate I have found some nice images but have to find out how to download them. I'll find out in the how to section.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2009, 09:08:28 AM by ChrisRobin »

Offline KateTopic starter

We have a range of about 3-4 hundred years for the height of the roman empire
The exact time could be refined if we want an evil or a good emperor on the throne.

Offline RubySlippers

How about Rome in its Golden Age, I am not sure if this is Pre-Christian, but would offer a vast majority of Europe, parts of Eurasia, Egypt, and all of the north African coast line to play with. Since the Roman's were likely always a hedonistic people, timeline should not affect any sexual aspects we wish to pursue.

Oh and that link was quite interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Yes and no. There was a very pro-marriage and austerior period during the Golden Age that had laws for example against bachelors. If you want fun try the time of Caligula to the Emperor Claudius.

Offline ChrisRobin

Caligula is certainly the most notorious and interesting. The PBS series "I Claudius" was a wonderful intro the machinations of Augustus and his descendants. The premise in that show was Claudius writing his memoirs. Authoring, Histories like Josephus et. al. was very popular at the time. There are a number of accounts of everyday Rome and Romans both extant and lost.

That might provide us with a through line to our tales. A biographer, almost reporter like Pliny could interview various people in order to present an account of the noble houses, or the aristocracy or the degradation of Roman virtue. The chosen characters could report as often as they were moved to do so...