Author Topic: Fracturing the Shoutbox (Read 7881 times)

Karma · « **Reply #50 on:** July 26, 2009, 03:27:56 PM »

If we were to go ahead with a second shoutbox, I think the only delineation that is really "proper" would be the aforementioned rating split: a second box without the content limitations of the present shoutbox. Meaning of course that we could swear, swap links that are most definitely NSFW, etc, and discuss more intensely certain subjects in real time that at present are limited to the forums. I don't mean it would become a smut-box - I don't think that's ever appropriate in an open chatroom with so many other options available. All the other separations such as donors-only rub me completely the wrong way.

Dakota · « **Reply #51 on:** July 26, 2009, 03:32:14 PM »

for once I agree with Karma on something

Greenthorn · « **Reply #52 on:** July 26, 2009, 04:29:26 PM »

But isn't the chat room available...with private rooms...for non-rated chat?

I think that a SB with no limits will quickly become one big cyber session...whether or not that is anyone's intention. New members will come in, and current members who are here to cyber, are all going to see it as a no holds barred place to cyber.

One thing that needs to be remembered is that there are people here for different reasons than ourselves...and just because say I, would not use it as a real-time cyber medium...that doesn't mean that Tom, Dick, and Susie won't!

Karma · « **Reply #53 on:** July 26, 2009, 04:32:58 PM »

It wouldn't be allowed to become such a place, GT - that would be a rule, not a suggestion, just as it is in the regular shoutbox. I don't mean to say the place would be limitless, just far less limited. They wouldn't see it as a place to cyber because we would not allow it to become such a thing.

Chevalier des Poissons · « **Reply #54 on:** July 26, 2009, 04:44:56 PM »

There is a shoubox called Inferno shoutbox that allows private messages. The thing is that is way too discrete, and some 'smart' people as moi might not see it.

What if the SB goes as the forum? Unapproved members could have only the public face, and approved members could have their own part of the SB. Like two tabs and stuff.

Greenthorn · « **Reply #55 on:** July 26, 2009, 05:58:58 PM »

Quote from: Karma on July 26, 2009, 04:32:58 PM

It would be allowed to become such a place, GT - that would be a rule, not a suggestion, just as it is in the regular shoutbox. I don't mean to say the place would be limitless, just far less limited. They wouldn't see it as a place to cyber because we would not allow it to become such a thing.

But Karma, this means that the mods have to monitor yet another toy for us members....

I predict that if another SB with no rating happens...within three months people will start complaining about it

Chevalier des Poissons · « **Reply #56 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:00:19 PM »

But GT, look at the size of our forums. It is impossible to do something without people complaining about it. Just think that we can hide the SB and choose not to see it, and yet some people still complain about it.

Greenthorn · « **Reply #57 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:01:05 PM »

Quote from: Battle Shambler on July 26, 2009, 06:00:19 PM

But GT, look at the size of our forums. It is impossible to do something without people complaining about it. Just think that we can hide the SB and choose not to see it, and yet some people still complain about it.

Well...exactly...so why are we asking for more drama?

Will · « **Reply #58 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:01:49 PM »

Quote from: Greenthorn on July 26, 2009, 05:58:58 PM

But Karma, this means that the mods have to monitor yet another toy for us members....

I predict that if another SB with no rating happens...within three months people will start complaining about it

People complain about everything, of course they'll complain no matter what happens with this.

And I don't understand all the talk about staff monitoring the new Boxes... The people in the boxes are supposed to monitor themselves, right? And if they don't, it gets taken away? Isn't that right?

Karma · « **Reply #59 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:02:17 PM »

And here we are, complaining.

But for many of us it would be a place with one less complaint. ...in theory. >_>

Greenthorn · « **Reply #60 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:05:48 PM »

I'm not complaining...I'm opening the book up.

The SB is not a new subject, nor is adding a different SB. I personally think "If it ain't broke then don't fix it". The SB serves its purpose. If the majority of people in Elliquiy are all for something added...cool...I'm with you all.

I really don't spend as much time here as I used to to worry about monitoring anyone.

*shrugs*

I'll stay out of the conversation.

Vekseid · « **Reply #61 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:08:28 PM »

Communication channels almost always have to be fully open. There are conveniences that hog resources, however, like having twelve windows open >_> I will probably be forced to do something about that, but 1: That's a long ways down the road and 2: it wouldn't stop anyone from playing.

Edit: Err, regarding donations.

Chevalier des Poissons · « **Reply #62 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:10:23 PM »

God I am with such headache that I could swear Vekseid said 'hot dog resources'.

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Well...exactly...so why are we asking for more drama?

It will be here one way or another. After all, what's this thread about?

Nadir · « **Reply #63 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:43:09 PM »

Quote from: Greenthorn on July 26, 2009, 03:03:58 PM

Why does the SB have to keep changing anyway? I mean...isn't Elliquiy a role playing website? Is there really that huge of an issue with the SB that it needs to be changing?

I'd rather see the change with the profiles/search for members thing!

Agreed! I'm really looking forwards to that.

Marguerite · « **Reply #64 on:** July 26, 2009, 06:59:44 PM »

Here, here on the profiles. The SB is fine as it is, if someone wants to cyber, take it to PM or to IM. If unapproved members want to roleplay, there is the Non-Adult thread. Those who want to 'tag' one another to post, should use IM or PM to make it faster and not hog up the SB. In a site like this one, people are bound to complain and nit pick. Put more effort into something like new forums, the Rabbit hole replacement and put the SB rooms on the back burner.

Nadir · « **Reply #65 on:** July 28, 2009, 06:06:16 AM »

Actually, how about splitting the SB into one socialising area and one casual RP area - like an add-on for the non-adult section. The socialising area would be where everyone is themselves - not their fursonas. When I socialise, I like to do so with people-people, not cat-/dragon-/etc-people... that sort of thing could be kept to the casual rp area.

Nico · « **Reply #66 on:** July 28, 2009, 06:08:59 AM »

Quote from: Eden on July 28, 2009, 06:06:16 AM

Actually, how about splitting the SB into one socialising area and one casual RP area - like an add-on for the non-adult section. The socialising area would be where everyone is themselves - not their fursonas. When I socialise, I like to do so with people-people, not cat-/dragon-/etc-people... that sort of thing could be kept to the casual rp area.

That's actually an excellent idea, Eden.

And I think, when the SB splits into all kinds of sections, it will just encourage the 'clique'-stuff.

Greenthorn · « **Reply #67 on:** July 28, 2009, 09:49:22 AM »

Quote from: Eden on July 28, 2009, 06:06:16 AM

Actually, how about splitting the SB into one socialising area and one casual RP area - like an add-on for the non-adult section. The socialising area would be where everyone is themselves - not their fursonas. When I socialise, I like to do so with people-people, not cat-/dragon-/etc-people... that sort of thing could be kept to the casual rp area.

....but isn't this what the HB is for?

*runs*

Nadir · « **Reply #68 on:** July 28, 2009, 09:51:38 AM »

Not that I've seen. The HB is used when the SB is over-full and the convos move to fast/are more personal than people want to be held in public.

I'm just getting frustrated with being pressured into RPing with people in their fursonas when I just want to relax. If we have a section that is specifically for non-adult play (not non-adult games, just messing around) it will make me feel better. (My, I'm arrogant today o.O)

Greenthorn · « **Reply #69 on:** July 28, 2009, 09:54:52 AM »

Quote from: Eden on July 28, 2009, 09:51:38 AM

Not that I've seen. The HB is used when the SB is over-full and the convos move to fast/are more personal than people want to be held in public.

I'm just getting frustrated with being pressured into RPing with people in their fursonas when I just want to relax.

I am so not into the furry thing...but I've noticed that some people remain in their "fursonas" throughout the site. Ehhh to me it's more of live and let live. Plus...it would mean that those who don't have the fursona and such will constantly be stating "Hey kitty, this SB is not for you...the other one is".

That just doesn't sit well with me...I see tons of hurt feelings. I think that we need to be accepting no matter what "persona" someone portrays.

I'm against the idea.

Nadir · « **Reply #70 on:** July 28, 2009, 09:59:28 AM »

I don't see what's wrong with wanting to interact with people.

Greenthorn · « **Reply #71 on:** July 28, 2009, 10:01:51 AM »

Quote from: Eden on July 28, 2009, 09:59:28 AM

I don't see what's wrong with wanting to interact with people.

furries are people too? Kinda? *shrugs*

Nadir · « **Reply #72 on:** July 28, 2009, 10:09:46 AM »

Furries are RP characters. I want to talk to the writers, not their characters.

Will · « **Reply #73 on:** July 28, 2009, 10:18:49 AM »

But not everyone is "themselves" online, whether they have fur and a tail or not.

Lots of people play a "character," why is that such a problem?

Nadir · « **Reply #74 on:** July 28, 2009, 10:19:55 AM »

*shrugs* Because I don't want to make friends with a lie, as cheesy as that sounds.