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Offline Hemingway

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1825 on: December 14, 2010, 11:16:49 AM »
The elaborate plan, is just that. The plan. The Reapers sleep, Soverign watches, when he thinks it's time, he pressed the button and the cycle starts. It's just business as usual. And it's a lot more effective, faster, and easier then travelling there, I'd wager, even if they can travel at speeds that could make the journey in our life time.

So I doubt the Citadel's Mass Relay is there because they lack an alternate method of travel. My money is on something like soft warp holes. They appear in the video to be travelling at no greater speed then our spaceships, and still have a ways to go, so it's not something like Hyperspace. Maybe it's the same general principle, but while they are moving at this leisurely speed, space and time warps around them, so that they shoot through. Same as worm holes, really, but slower, and just a random theory.

No need to get all defensive. :'D

I can speculate, too, though ... I was hoping the Reapers would be stopped before even reaching our galaxy.

I'm just saying, whatever explanation they come up with, and I'm sure they're giving it some serious thought, it needs to meet two requirements, that are sort of two sides of the same thing. Basically, it has to make sense ( i.e. the Reapers didn't simply cruise in from intergalactic space ), and it can't render the whole Sovereign gambit completely meaningless. It's not that hard in theory, so I'm sure they'll manage, but ... I'm just saying, that's all. I'm just saying.

Reminds me of something I read on the BioWare forums, though. There was some speculation regarding the origin of the Reapers. Some guy was insisting they'd simply always existed. I pointed out that this is impossible, as they couldn't have existed prior to the Big Bang. His retort? The Mass Effect universe didn't start from a big bang, it just ... always existed.

I'm sure I don't have to point out how impossible this is, in so many different ways. However, if BioWare does anything like that, something that not only bends the laws of physics ( as element zero does ) but outright ignores them, I am ... going to be very angry. For a brief time. But still.

I doubt that, though. BioWare have gotten their physics right in ways most sci-fi ignores.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1826 on: December 14, 2010, 05:39:21 PM »
No no, the Citadel attack is their M.O. It's a sneak attack. Jump through the relay, the Citadel closes up, the Reapers cut the head off galactic communication. Now instead of a council there's one planet fighting alone. That's how they took out the Protheans. If you believe this the Reaver's fear an organized organic attack. Shepard foiled that plot, and he foiled the human Reaper experiment. So now they have nothing left but a brute force attack.

Galactic civilization must fall by the Reaper's standpoint. Now it just becomes messy and a drawn out war where many Reapers are probably going to die. The damn things aren't immortal they're just hard to kill. Shepard even says a few times in 2 that the war is coming. It's not a plot hole you just have to have no life like me. X)

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1827 on: December 14, 2010, 07:20:30 PM »
Dready: How have you played M.E. 3. I would love to know. :)
*looks up* ... OHSHIZ I meant 2. ; - ;

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1828 on: December 14, 2010, 08:27:06 PM »
*looks up* ... OHSHIZ I meant 2. ; - ;
Aw, I thought you bootlegged or something. *is sadface now.*

Offline SabbyTopic starter

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1829 on: December 14, 2010, 09:45:01 PM »
I do have a theory on why The Reapers do what they do though :)

Okay, they live in Dark Space, an area of space with no stars... Harbinger claims our end is 'the universes salvation', so at least some of the Reapers believe there is a goal in mind besides simply harvesting us, something important to galactic health. That sun that Tali is researching, and a second you you can read about in space exploration, are degrading due to Dark Energy, or in other words, shit we don't understand. Lastly, Reapers home and their cores are all using Dark Energy.

My theory? Reapers, or whoever made them, fucked around too long with Mass Effect fields, and started inadvertently doing harm to sensitive elements of the universe. It is Dark Space because all of their suns and stars have been destroyed, and now we are seeing the first signs of this in our own universe, since we have avoided our culling.

Offline dready

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1830 on: December 14, 2010, 10:12:31 PM »
Possibly humanity is beginning to go down the same path then?

Offline SabbyTopic starter

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1831 on: December 15, 2010, 12:31:59 AM »
That's my theory, yes.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1832 on: December 15, 2010, 08:11:23 AM »
I thought they might have a virus or something making them all evil. I try not to think on the Reavers so much. Bioware pulled of that timeless, larger-than-life antagonism so well they kind of scare me.

Offline Hemingway

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1833 on: December 15, 2010, 04:17:19 PM »
I don't think intergalactic space having gone dark due to stars being destroyed is supported by science. I think that would wreak havoc on our understanding of the universe and its origin, which in turn would affect the very laws of nature. You can't make something like that up without considering the science behind it, and for that to be possible at all, you'd probably have to change other things as well, to follow the same laws.

Personally, I'm more inclined to think the bit about salvation refers to creating Reapers from all the universe's sapient species. It is probable that any species left to its own devices will eventually obliterate itself somehow, and so the Reapers may act as historians of sort, intervening before they can destroy themselves, creating Reapers from them, and destroying the rest. Of course, that doesn't really say anything about their motivation for doing so.

But ... maybe we should make a Mass Effect speculation / discussion thread, rather than derail this one? xd;

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1834 on: December 15, 2010, 04:36:55 PM »
I looked up the supposed release date on Game FAQs for ME 3 and they have it at Q4 (fourth quarter of the year i.e. Fall and Winter). Really that fast. Having a real budget rocks. Want to start a pool on whether it gets here first or L.A. Noir? :)

Offline Hemingway

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1835 on: December 15, 2010, 05:09:31 PM »
Well, they've got the mechanics and engine down - ME2 took a while because they had to rework the stuff from ME. At least that's my understanding.

Offline Wolfy

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1836 on: December 15, 2010, 07:09:03 PM »

Offline Hemingway

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1837 on: December 15, 2010, 07:31:41 PM »
Well, I've been playing Cataclysm, and finally made myself a Worgen...

My top-hat is off to whoever designed Gilneas. Best starter zone ever, anyone?

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1838 on: December 15, 2010, 09:30:14 PM »
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I think the link speaks for itself.

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Offline Lilias

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1839 on: December 16, 2010, 05:34:58 AM »
Reign of Blood. Silly little vampire browser game with no long-term commitments. Perfect when I have a few minutes to kill.

Offline SabbyTopic starter

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1840 on: December 16, 2010, 05:43:43 AM »
Nothing at the moment... I updated my Xbox through Live, and now need a new mod chip to play majority of my discs :/ And I JUST got Two Worlds 2 as well... which I was enjoying immensely.

Offline DudelRok

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1841 on: December 16, 2010, 11:45:24 AM »
I've been hoping around my games. Mostly playing Rogue Galaxy because it's retarded easy. Slightly frustrating, but still easy.

Nothing at the moment... I updated my Xbox through Live, and now need a new mod chip to play majority of my discs :/ And I JUST got Two Worlds 2 as well... which I was enjoying immensely.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1842 on: December 16, 2010, 07:32:52 PM »
I've been hoping around my games. Mostly playing Rogue Galaxy because it's retarded easy. Slightly frustrating, but still easy.

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Offline Aiden

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1843 on: December 16, 2010, 10:15:28 PM »
Minecraft

Offline Wolfy

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1844 on: December 17, 2010, 12:25:04 AM »
Wellt, Mass Effect 3 has officially been announced...soo...prepare for disappointment, Sabby. Arm yourself with your shields of "Why" and your sword of complaining.

Offline SabbyTopic starter

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1845 on: December 17, 2010, 02:49:03 AM »
I doubt I'll be that disappointed :P They'll have to do a lot of things wrong for me to be that upset with the game. Changing the Reapers from a Cthulian level antagonist to a more Stargate level one is annoying, yes, but not a huge deal for me.

Now, if they pull the old 'Protheans left scattered pieces of an anti-Reaper super weapon all over the galaxy', then we'll be nearing rant territory :P

Offline dready

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1846 on: December 17, 2010, 12:02:54 PM »
Now, if they pull the old 'Protheans left scattered pieces of an anti-Reaper super weapon all over the galaxy', then we'll be nearing rant territory :P
That's in the middle of rant territory right there, since the first ME stated that the Protheans were unable to defend themselves against the reaper's in the first place, and if they managed to put together an anti-reaper weapon and have enough time to scatter it around the galaxy, they would have had enough time to hide it and put it together, then kill the reapers.

Offline Brandon

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1847 on: December 17, 2010, 12:13:33 PM »
I agree they will have to do a lot of things wrong for MA3 to be bad. Although if they do the super weapon thing, which seems like the most likely considering the last 2 games, I'll likely have to demote it to at best above average game (assuming its as good or better then the last 2)

Anyway, Ive been playing the beta for DC universe the last couple of days. Its been interesting. The gameplay is a lot cooler then most MMO's I have played but it lacks the charm of most of them too (especially City of Hero's the other major superhero/villain MMO). Maybe I would get into it more if I was a DC fan but the only character of theirs I ever really enjoyed or got into was Batman.


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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1848 on: December 17, 2010, 12:28:25 PM »
That's in the middle of rant territory right there, since the first ME stated that the Protheans were unable to defend themselves against the reaper's in the first place, and if they managed to put together an anti-reaper weapon and have enough time to scatter it around the galaxy, they would have had enough time to hide it and put it together, then kill the reapers.

Unless they were in the process of developing it at several different locations (like we might use components from different countries to manufacture something), and there was a key piece/ingredient/material that they weren't able to find. 

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #1849 on: December 17, 2010, 01:16:05 PM »
Prothean would make a good deal of sense, actually. The Protheans didn't stand a chance at resistance because they were taken completely by surprise. The genocide, however, took a long time. It's not entirely unthinkable that, similar to the Protheans on Virmire, others were hiding elsewhere, developing weapons. I'm just saying.